MGM needs some sprucing

[Jezebel]

the update to the animation studio made it blan. the subtraction of the houses upon the street of the backlot has made the backlot a little light weight and some rides are outdated. I don't want to see any changing of rides completly. what they require to do is add some stuff to their attraction and more attractions. star tours is very out dated and needs something. refurb of some form.backlot tour may need to change it's route a bit. just to name a few. I am not looking for an argument. but does anyone agree. I do not say change the rides completly. I mean do some updating in the area

[PeoplemoverMatt]

When I think of MGM Studios, one word comes to mind - 'shallow'.

-- PMM

[linklewtt]

Tell me about it. I honestly believe that MGM Studios is a step above DCA. Just a step! If it wasn't for MGM Studios being in WDW, everyone would harp on that park like they do to DCA.

Perhaps with the name change and such something good will be in store for the Studios.

[tomserwin]

Consider this:

MGM Studios is based off of Hollywood and the movie-making industry. The entire movie making-industry is all about lies and deception, making you believe that what your are looking at is real even though you know it is all fake. However, the point of MGM Studios is that it embraces Hollywood and makes it fun. To call it shallow in, I'm assuming, a negative way,(I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm merely stating my opinion) seems unfair. It is meant to be like that in an fun way. I would way it is more campy than shallow. Personally, I think MGM is way better than DCA, by a long shot. I love the Great Movie Ride, DCA doesn't have anything like that.

[sora_145]

Hey, leave MGM alone. It's an old park, and has some classic rides! None of the rides need to be removed or changed! Star Tours is fine the way it is! Wasn't DLR supposed to get a new Star Tours? Did you? Do we go ranting on yours?

[HMF]

[quote=tomserwin]Consider this:MGM Studios is based off of Hollywood and the movie-making industry. The entire movie making-industry is all about lies and deception, making you believe that what your are looking at is real even though you know it is all fake.QUOTE]
MGM is about the Hollywood people think was but really never was. If it were like the real Hollywood these days it would definitely not look like a Disney Park. Like you said the real Hollywood is about Lies and deception.

[Jezebel]

Originally Posted by sora_145

Star Tours is fine the way it is! Wasn't DLR supposed to get a new Star Tours? Did you? Do we go ranting on yours?

I don't mean take it away. I mean update it. it requires a refurb such as a sound improvment. not a change in attraction

[linklewtt]

MGM certainly has some great rides. And I love the theme of old Hollywood. However, as a park, it's not too much better than DCA. There's a lot of space unused and, like DCA, it's really no more than a day park. I can easily do everything there in a day.

And Lights, Motor, Action...it's gotta go. Big waste of space.

[Jezebel]

Originally Posted by linklewtt

MGM certainly has some great rides. And I love the theme of old Hollywood. However, as a park, it's not too much better than DCA. There's a lot of space unused and, like DCA, it's really no more than a day park. I can easily do everything there in a day.

And Lights, Motor, Action...it's gotta go. Big waste of space.

I agree with everything you just said.

I am not saying I don't like it. I shall kill myself the day I put MGM Down. I love everything there except perhaps the pep rally. I think there is plenty they can do now

[Pinocchio85]

I think MGM needs the least amount of attention at WDW. MK is rundown and needs a lot of TLC. Epcot and AK needs more rides.

MGM is getting Toy Story Mania and just recieved a lot of new props and costumes for the Tram Tour.

[HMF]

I have recently heard the might re-name it Disney-Pixar Studios.

[linklewtt]

Originally Posted by Jezebel

I agree with everything you just said.

I am not saying I don't like it. I shall kill myself the day I put MGM Down. I love everything there except perhaps the pep rally. I think there is plenty they can do now

I enjoy MGM as well. The problem is that it has so much potential that currently is going untapped. That could be because Disney has been preoccupied with Animal Kingdom (with Everest and Nemo show), but they've gotta get some projects going with MGM soon, especially with the contract with MGM ending soon. So we'll see a lot of changes very soon I think.

Originally Posted by Pinocchio85

MGM is getting Toy Story Mania and just recieved a lot of new props and costumes for the Tram Tour.

The Tram Tour is a joke. I've never been to Universal Orlando, but I have been to Universal Hollywood and there's such a difference in their tram ride. Granted that the Disney Studios are no longer real studios, but they could add some cool things like the Earthquake thing and King Kong thing at Universal. Something immersive other than just Catastrophe Canyon.

And the costume part is dumb. It's cool to see the costumes that were used in the different films, but you go by that whole wharehouse so fast.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Originally Posted by tomserwin

MGM Studios is based off of Hollywood and the movie-making industry. The entire movie making-industry is all about lies and deception, making you believe that what your are looking at is real even though you know it is all fake. However, the point of MGM Studios is that it embraces Hollywood and makes it fun. To call it shallow in, I'm assuming, a negative way,(I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm merely stating my opinion) seems unfair. It is meant to be like that in an fun way. I would way it is more campy than shallow. Personally, I think MGM is way better than DCA, by a long shot. I love the Great Movie Ride, DCA doesn't have anything like that.

Well to be more accurate, MGM Studios bases itself off the cartoonized fantastical Hollywood of yesteryear that the nation has fun with, but knows isn't reality. Just look at the 'famed' Hollywood & Vine intersection today. Blech.

What I meant by shallow is that as a theme park, it's shallow. It's shallow in it's offerings, I can't think of any theme park that has fewer attractions than MGM Studios does. It's shallow in it's entertainment Dept. with a dumbed-down Fantasmic!, underwhelming 'Studio Tour', aging Indiana Jones stunt show, etc. The only thing really worth watching is the Lights, Motors, Action show and I haven't had any motivation to see that in past 2 times I've been at MGM Studios. It's also shallow in its layout. There really only is one area of the park to concentrate on & that's Sunset Blvd. Tower, RRC and the Fantasmic! theatre are all crammed together in one spot, leaving the other 80% of the park to seem extremely lackluster. When looking at MGM Studios as its own theme park entity, its offerings are shallow.

Now you say it has 'some good rides', well DCA has 'some good rides' too. In fact I'd venture to say that Tower, Soarin', Screamin', Grizzly, Maliboomer, MI, & Electrical Parade are a more fulfilling park lineup than Tower, RRC, Star Tours, Fantasmic!, Studio Tour, LMA and Indy Stunt Show. At the very least, it's even. So I know those of who living in the WDW neck of the woods don't like to hear it, but take it from someone who's visited 8 out of the 11 Disney theme parks around the world, MGM Studios is shallow.

In fact, I'd say it's more lacking than DCA. DCA at least doesn't cram everything worth riding into one corner of its park. DCA's attractions are spread throughout its layout. Granted that layout isn't very big, but I easily walk all of DCA's grounds hitting every attraction. With MGM that is very much not so. There's a lot of MGM that is difficult to navigate. Only one small staircase can get you onto Mickey Avenue from the park entrance, and finding the Star Tours area can be quite a challenge unless you know exactly where to turn off of the main entryway. It becomes even more frustrating when it seems like a challenge to find even the smallest offerings a park has.

Hey, leave MGM alone. It's an old park, and has some classic rides! None of the rides need to be removed or changed! Star Tours is fine the way it is! Wasn't DLR supposed to get a new Star Tours? Did you? Do we go ranting on yours?

That's actually more of a reason why it's necessary to 'rant on it' as you say. DCA at least can be somewhat forgiven because it's barely 6 years old. MGM Studios opened a long while ago, and is still quite shallow in the attractions dept. In 6 years DCA has amassed as much if not more attraction offerings than MGM has, and MGM is a larger park. To me, that's flat unacceptable. In Disneyland, Star Tours is one of 6 attractions in Tomorrowland alone. If people are bored, there's a plethora of alternatives in Disneyland to see. Whereas in MGM, take Star Tours away, and the park becomes that much more shallow.

That being said, do keep in mind that we always complain because we care. The reason why we point out these flaws is because we'd like them to change, and Disney is capable of making that change happen. I'm sure we'd all like all our park experiences to be enhanced, and we the consumers have the most important opinions regarding those changes. After all there is no point in making changes for the sake of making changes. Changes are made to enhance guest experience. Now hopefully they don't solely look at that and give the consumer too much power, because had Walt followed that he would have just built another Merry-Go-Round to compete with all the others. Disney MUST think bigger than that, but at the same time do the little things that make a theme park, especially one as expensive as a WDW park, worth its price of admission.

-- PMM

[sora_145]

While I agree, MGM doesn't receive enough attention, I don't really think anything major should be changed. I agree with you, on your point about the rides. Here is the following list of rides ( That I can think of at the moment ).

Star Tours
RnR
Tower of Terror
Great Movie Ride ( They can take that away, I hate that ride )
Indiana Jhones stunt spectacular

Those are the only ones I can think of at the moment. It's been almost two years since I went to MGM, but I'm going in about a week.

While I'm there I'll take pictures of areas that can be/should be refurbished, or be built on.

[tomserwin]

PMM,
I guess what it boils down to is one's personal opinion. Despite your argument, I still like MGM better than DCA. However, I do see where you are coming from. It is all a matter of perception, persepective, and opinion. Personally, I didn't have the slightest problem getting around MGM. I didn't get lost and Star Tours was very simple to find.
I don't know, I guess it doesn't matter either way. However, you have a valid point about the park being shallow.