Fantasmic!

quesoboy88 · 08-03-2009, 12:09 PM

well done Matt...I do like both versions but you do have to admit that what Matt says is incredibly true

FLEX95 · 08-03-2009, 12:29 PM

what he said is true and if we dident talk about what show might be better than the other than what would we have to talk about..............very clever matt........ you sure do know how to put things into focus............ i still do think both shows are amazing eathier way they might be shown but well done.

stevo505 · 08-03-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DisneyDennis

Why do they even have Fantasmic in WDW?
I think they should cancel it there and replace it with World of Color.

The dragon part is better at WDW cus the dragon spits out fire AND a red fire ball that HITS the water. the fire starts from the middle of the river and starts to grow and the whole entire river is on fire.

At DL the dragon spits fire and it doesn't even touch the water. And fire pops out of no where in 3 difference places. And WDW has more fire on the water.

But for the NEW dragon will they make the seance longer cus if it's the same that's less then a minute and too short. I think mickey should catch on fire then swim in the water then pull his sward out.

and personally i like the WDW seating but at Disneyland its a huge mess and too congested

Please, no. It was bad enough when they decided to copy Fantasmic! over to WDW. Don't make them copy WoC to WDW too! They'll just make it a dumbed-down version anyway.

Also, with the new dragon at Disneyland, it is going to bend down and spew the fire onto the water. It will be a great effect.

stevo505 · 08-03-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DisneyDennis

It's weird how nothing is exclusive to the DCA expansion
I mean Toy Story Mania and Mermaid ride in WDW. Nothing should be cloned for the expansion.
Why can't DCA give the Tortilla and Bread Factory Tour instead.

Wait Wait So in 2010 Dland park will be Having Fantasmic, Fireworks, Electrical Parade While DCA has World of Color? how is the schedule going to work.

Not sure really. They won't be able to have parades due to all the construction I'm pretty sure.

DisneyParksFan112 · 08-04-2009, 06:44 PM

Now FLEX95 and Matt both prove their points very well.

I disagree on the shack vs mountain stage. Honestly, why would there be a random shack in Mickey's dream?

But that's not a big problem. Now I do have to admit the Fantasmic! in Hollywood Studios needs a MAJOR update.

I honestly think they should just completely refurbish Fantasmic and take it to the Rivers of America in The Magic Kingdom, and get World of Color to go to either EPCOT Center's Lagoon to replace Reflections of Earth, or to the Fantasmic! Lagoon which I think is unlikely due to the limited size of the lagoon.

stevo505 · 08-04-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DisneyParksFan112

Now FLEX95 and Matt both prove their points very well.

I disagree on the shack vs mountain stage. Honestly, why would there be a random shack in Mickey's dream?

But that's not a big problem. Now I do have to admit the Fantasmic! in Hollywood Studios needs a MAJOR update.

I honestly think they should just completely refurbish Fantasmic and take it to the Rivers of America in The Magic Kingdom, and get World of Color to go to either EPCOT Center's Lagoon to replace Reflections of Earth, or to the Fantasmic! Lagoon which I think is unlikely due to the limited size of the lagoon.

It's not a shack. It's a mill house.

I would hate for World of Color to be cloned elsewhere. World of Color makes no sense in Epcot either. Illuminations fits the park very well. I'd prefer it stay exclusive to California Adventure.

FLEX95 · 08-05-2009, 01:04 AM

actually world of color might fit nicer at the magic kingdom since it kinda fits the theme.

DisneyParksFan112 · 08-05-2009, 11:54 AM

No, stevo is right now that I think about it. I think they should just make a similar show with the same capabilities as World of Color in the Magic Kingdom, an update a MAJOR update to Fantasmic!(Yes, that means Pocahontas goes bye-bye. And another incarnation of Illuminations with the same capabilities as World of Color.

Guys, I'm not bashing on anyone's opinions or park or anything. I'm attempting to state my opinion as nicely as I can.

Disneyland_DHI · 08-05-2009, 04:22 PM

^I agree with WWoC staying exclusive to DCA. When was the last time us Californians had any exclusive E-Tickets? Let's see:

We had Fantasmic in 92, only to be cloned a few years later...
When Jack and the Halloweentown crew came to the parks for the first time to take over the HM, it wasn't exclusive: MK was planned to get one, but when they neglected the attraction, it moved over to Disneyland Tokyo
Space Mountain kinda changed, but isn't the one in WDW being tied in more with its CA cousin? and plus, Space has always been there.
Buzz Lightyear was a clone of the other BLABs around the world...
Matterhorn was very exclusive to us, but then they just had to do Everest. so now it's just exclusive and not very.
We got the Jedi Show, but that was a clone from WDW's Star Wars weekends...
We had the subs resurfaced, and they're now Finding Nemo, but that's basically like The Seas....
Then came Toy Story Mania for the DCA expansion, but then DHS just had to have it.
Next up, we've got the Little Mermaid ride, which is coming to MK, then rumored to come to Paris (don't clone it!)
After that, we've got Carsland, with the Race ride coming, but WDW already had that as Test Track without all the characters.

See? Sure, each attraction that exists on both coasts is "unique in its own ways" but truly, the only thing that will truely be unique is now World of Color. I'm not trying to bash on any park, so please, Disney: Don't clone ANYTHING, unless you build a new MK. in that case, cloning the basic attractions (Space, Thunder, BLAB, Fantasyland darkrides) is nessicary (sp?).

monkey4057 · 08-05-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Disneyland_DHI

Then came Toy Story Mania for the DCA expansion, but then DHS just had to have it.
Next up, we've got the Little Mermaid ride, which is coming to MK, then rumored to come to Paris (don't clone it!)

............................... ...calming down.

DisneyParksFan112 · 08-05-2009, 05:09 PM

Yes, I completely agree. I myself get really tired of clones. I think Magic Kingdom should be more unique. Let's hope no one clones our new dark rides which are coming with the new Fantasyland makeover. That is IF it turns out to be true, which I highly think it will.

stevo505 · 08-06-2009, 01:48 PM

Does anyone think Disney will take Fantasmic! to other parks? (Tokyo, Paris, Hong Kong?)

Jphelps · 08-06-2009, 02:59 PM

^ I hope not.

Disneyland_DHI · 08-06-2009, 03:12 PM

if they do bring F! to any other parks, they better have equal quality/better scenes than Disneyland CA's and not equal quality to Florida's. I mean, why put Pochahontas? Fantasmic is like a lesson on fantasy, not a history lesson.

DisneyParksFan112 · 08-06-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo505

Does anyone think Disney will take Fantasmic! to other parks? (Tokyo, Paris, Hong Kong?)

Tokyo=No, that's why they created Fantillusion.
Paris=Nah, they have Fantillusion now, may go the the Studios though.
Hong Kong=I'm sure they will get something more original when they do the expansion thingy.

So the chances are slim.

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FLEX95 Registered Member People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 24	what he said is true and if we dident talk about what show might be better than the other than what would we have to talk about..............very clever matt........ you sure do know how to put things into focus............ i still do think both shows are amazing eathier way they might be shown but well done.
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DisneyParksFan112 Proud WDW'er. People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Main Street U.S.A. Posts: 261	Now FLEX95 and Matt both prove their points very well. I disagree on the shack vs mountain stage. Honestly, why would there be a random shack in Mickey's dream? But that's not a big problem. Now I do have to admit the Fantasmic! in Hollywood Studios needs a MAJOR update. I honestly think they should just completely refurbish Fantasmic and take it to the Rivers of America in The Magic Kingdom, and get World of Color to go to either EPCOT Center's Lagoon to replace Reflections of Earth, or to the Fantasmic! Lagoon which I think is unlikely due to the limited size of the lagoon.
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DisneyParksFan112 Proud WDW'er. People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Main Street U.S.A. Posts: 261	No, stevo is right now that I think about it. I think they should just make a similar show with the same capabilities as World of Color in the Magic Kingdom, an update a MAJOR update to Fantasmic!(Yes, that means Pocahontas goes bye-bye. And another incarnation of Illuminations with the same capabilities as World of Color. Guys, I'm not bashing on anyone's opinions or park or anything. I'm attempting to state my opinion as nicely as I can.
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Disneyland_DHI VF's Local Space Ranger People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In the theater, waiting for TS3 Posts: 1,925	^I agree with WWoC staying exclusive to DCA. When was the last time us Californians had any exclusive E-Tickets? Let's see: We had Fantasmic in 92, only to be cloned a few years later... When Jack and the Halloweentown crew came to the parks for the first time to take over the HM, it wasn't exclusive: MK was planned to get one, but when they neglected the attraction, it moved over to Disneyland Tokyo Space Mountain kinda changed, but isn't the one in WDW being tied in more with its CA cousin? and plus, Space has always been there. Buzz Lightyear was a clone of the other BLABs around the world... Matterhorn was very exclusive to us, but then they just had to do Everest. so now it's just exclusive and not very. We got the Jedi Show, but that was a clone from WDW's Star Wars weekends... We had the subs resurfaced, and they're now Finding Nemo, but that's basically like The Seas.... Then came Toy Story Mania for the DCA expansion, but then DHS just had to have it. Next up, we've got the Little Mermaid ride, which is coming to MK, then rumored to come to Paris (don't clone it!) After that, we've got Carsland, with the Race ride coming, but WDW already had that as Test Track without all the characters. See? Sure, each attraction that exists on both coasts is "unique in its own ways" but truly, the only thing that will truely be unique is now World of Color. I'm not trying to bash on any park, so please, Disney: Don't clone ANYTHING, unless you build a new MK. in that case, cloning the basic attractions (Space, Thunder, BLAB, Fantasyland darkrides) is nessicary (sp?). __________________ Toy Story: 2 Toy Story 2: 2 Total Disney/Pixar Movies as of May 2009: 10 My Countdown Counting down to: TOY STORY 3!!!! 208 days 19 hours 53 minutes Last edited by Disneyland_DHI; 08-05-2009 at 09:27 PM.
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