Fantasmic!

stevo505 · 09-11-2006, 04:09 PM

Hmm.. Good reasoning Fantasmic!Kid. I never though about MGM's that way. But as everyone says "The Jafar sequence dosen't fit in," it really does not that much, but I kinda like that part :D.

xfkirsten · 09-11-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fantasmic!kid

I speak from experience when I say: Animal puppets are close to impossible to get off a stage. And getting a pompous governor on the stage with 15 Englishmen is no easy task either, hence the "extend"age.
The canoers distract from the quick stage change (putting up fort, etc.)
The only "action" sequence that could work with a mountain.
DL's dragon comes up from the stage after a 20' trap door opens. WDW's dragon has to come through a hole barely bigger than its head and I think the wings are separate, which takes longer.
The only other villain that would have something menacing to offer.
He's supposed to be putting out the fire. But since the fire is not divided into sections, they have to turn it off all at once.

~F!kid

While it's true that most of that stuff is in there for logistics purposes, unfortunately most of that screams "poor planning" to me. I think that if they had modified the show in other ways, they could have either avoided these problems, or put something in those gaps that was more impressive.

tonichelle · 09-13-2006, 03:09 PM

I've never seen the DL show live, but I did see this one live a couple years ago... and I can't remember anything I didn't like about it...

F!kid · 09-29-2006, 06:16 PM

In the refurbishment schedule on the main page, it says Fantasmic! will be down starting Nov. 1. Maybe, they'll redo something.

~The Creature

stevo505 · 10-01-2006, 02:33 PM

Maybe they are just refurbishing the audio or techical stuff.

lovesdisney · 10-01-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Bingo

Could be cancelled due to weather... DL doesn't have any weather... so no worries about cancellations.

I'm not going to step into the fray because I've never seen WDW's Fantasmic, not even on videos, so I don't think I have enough information to make a judgement on which is better.

BUT.

This statement above? Not true. I've had Fantasmic! cancelled on me due to weather (those darn prevailing winds). Just wanted to clarify that. Besides, PMM pretty much hit on everything else, anyway.

jagfkb · 10-02-2006, 05:53 PM

I really don't think we should compare the two of these shows together. Fantasmic at DL draws you in more since everyone is closer together on the stage. Wdw's Fantasmic is more of like a fireworks show, it's shown on a broad perspective, and for me, Mickey being the tallest thing in sight is way cooler then seeing trees that are higher than him in the finale. Still, if they could tie these two ideas together for a show at possibly Tokyo, then we would have something. Just because they have the same name doesn't make one better than another. True, some of our favorite parts of Dl's fantasmic aren't in WDW's but we still have amazing effects and the water screen in both versions.

Evan-500 · 10-02-2006, 10:07 PM

I actually dislike the stadium.. TSI is magical, your on it during the day, and suddenly it trasforms before your eyes, while your standing in the same spot you did that day. WIth the stadium you know somethings gonna happen, the show in MGM looks to staged, and less on the spot.. and the mountain is butt ugly.

PeoplemoverMatt · 10-02-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jagfkb

Still, if they could tie these two ideas together for a show at possibly Tokyo, then we would have something.

Well there is BraviSEAmo at DisneySea, and they don't use a Stadium for that.

-- The Chief

wdwmickeyfan · 10-03-2006, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief O'Brien

Well there is BraviSEAmo at DisneySea, and they don't use a Stadium for that.

-- The Chief

Correct. They use a very large lagoon to perform their shows, though it's not nearly as big as the World Showcase Lagoon I believe. It's big enough to hold a large scale show, yet compact enough to offer excellent views no matter where you stand. One of the disadvantages of IllumiNations is that you're too far away to really see the globe and fountain effects, so the Imagineers who designed DisneySea made sure the lagoon was just the right size for the shows.

ah92us · 10-04-2006, 05:53 PM

since i haven't seen the Disney-MGM version of Fantasmic, I'll have to stay out of the conversation

does anyone have a full, relatively clear video of Fantasmic?

**Disneyland_Wolf** · 10-07-2006, 09:54 PM

Here you go, it is from YouTube and WDW Magic.com

WDW Fantasmic!

F!kid · 10-12-2006, 08:51 AM

This is how the finale should be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNVFBuD5r_E

~The Creature

P.S. I think the video's audio is a bit off.

Fantasmic17 · 11-11-2006, 06:22 PM

I'm just going to simply state it, otherwise I will be typing for hours furiously about how horrible WDW is for taking this wonderful show and butchering it into a morphed version of their own.

WDW's version, I hate with intensity.

Palm Desert Babe · 11-11-2006, 06:55 PM

I've never seen it, never will. Not after this thread.

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F!kid People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 665 Images: 16	*In the refurbishment schedule on the main page, it says Fantasmic!* will be down starting Nov. 1. Maybe, they'll redo something. ~The Creature __________________ Come join us!!!**
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