Fantasmic!

[F!kid]

What do you guys think of this version?

~F!kid

[HMF]

Originally Posted by Fantasmic!kid

What do you guys think of this version?

Its the first one i have seen. the Disneyland one is a bit better. The bubble sequence in RDCT was taken from the WDW version of Fantasmic.

[wdwmickeyfan]

It's nowhere near as good as Disneyland's in my opinion.

[xfkirsten]

Speaking as someone who was in WDW Entertainment... bleeeeech. It's horribly unimpressive when compared to Disneyland's. Everything just feels like it's done on a much smaller scale. The only thing that I really like better is that Mickey's battle with the dragon is a bit more drawn out (although I think WDW goes a bit too far the other way and makes it too long and not confrontational enough) and that Sorcerer Mickey's up on a huge mountain rather than a shed.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

I agree with kirsten, bleeeeech is a good word for it. I watched it not knowing what I would see, and I was in pain from the moment the familiar monkeys did not come out. There are several wonderful moments that simply don't exist in MGM's Fantasmic! & that version also has some painfully drawn out moments including the bubble scene, canoers/Pocahontas scene, Jafar snake scene (utterly pointless), and the Dragon battle.

-- Peoplemover "Look! I'm Mickey Mouse - I just got a sword which I'll use to kill that big dragon over there, but I'm going to dance around for about 20 minutes first. Don't worry, dragon'll just sit there and watch me. It takes a while for 87 villians to agree on what I should do." Matt

[F!kid]

Imagine if there was no such thing as Disneyland's Fantasmic!.............................. ..... ........DUN DUN DUHHHHHH! jk.

To tell the truth, the thing that struck me the most (about Walt Disney World) was the effects, fountains, and lighting. The story: *vomit*
The only parts of the story I enjoy are the ones from Disneyland.

Though for some reason, I feel the need to record...

~F!kid

[GreenLantern13]

I went knowing all the talk, having participated in a lot of it myself, and having seen the videos seeral times. But when I was there watching it, differences aside, I couldn't help but bounce and sing along and enjoy it. My criticisms of it still stand but I had fun experiencing it. The quality of seeing it in person was certainly better than I'd been able to see on some low quality video I'd seen.

my friend i was with was honestly impressed at how much i enjoyed stuff he figured i'd shrug off and scoff at like most dlanders do heh =D

[F!kid]

I wonder why they didn't just copy Disneyland's version.
It would probably be more popular that way.

~F!kid

[xfkirsten]

Originally Posted by PeoplemoverMatt

I agree with kirsten, bleeeeech is a good word for it. I watched it not knowing what I would see, and I was in pain from the moment the familiar monkeys did not come out. There are several wonderful moments that simply don't exist in MGM's Fantasmic! & that version also has some painfully drawn out moments including the bubble scene, canoers/Pocahontas scene, Jafar snake scene (utterly pointless), and the Dragon battle.

-- Peoplemover "Look! I'm Mickey Mouse - I just got a sword which I'll use to kill that big dragon over there, but I'm going to dance around for about 20 minutes first. Don't worry, dragon'll just sit there and watch me. It takes a while for 87 villians to agree on what I should do." Matt

Yeah, the Jafar snake thing is another one of my gripes. It's a neat idea, but horribly executed - and WAY too long. There's too much time just watching the snake walk back and forth with no real action. And you hit the nail exactly on the head on the dragon scene. I always thought that in Disneyland's version, the climactic battle didn't have enough conflict (Mickey just kinda walks up and *bang*, Maleficent is dead)... but I think WDW went too far the other way - they spend too much time with Mickey just walking around and the dragon just sitting there. It'd be really nice to see a bit more action/interaction between the two of them, although I understand that that could make it considerably more technically complex.

Originally Posted by almandot

I went knowing all the talk, having participated in a lot of it myself, and having seen the videos seeral times. But when I was there watching it, differences aside, I couldn't help but bounce and sing along and enjoy it. My criticisms of it still stand but I had fun experiencing it. The quality of seeing it in person was certainly better than I'd been able to see on some low quality video I'd seen.

my friend i was with was honestly impressed at how much i enjoyed stuff he figured i'd shrug off and scoff at like most dlanders do heh =D

Oh, I still think it's fun to watch, and Sorcerer Mickey still gives me goosebumps. But when I think of what it could have been, that's when I become disappointed.

[HMF]

Originally Posted by xfkirsten

Speaking as someone who was in WDW Entertainment... bleeeeech. It's horribly unimpressive when compared to Disneyland's. Everything just feels like it's done on a much smaller scale. The only thing that I really like better is that Mickey's battle with the dragon is a bit more drawn out (although I think WDW goes a bit too far the other way and makes it too long and not confrontational enough) and that Sorcerer Mickey's up on a huge mountain rather than a shed.

I like that this one has more villains in it.and you dont want to have the two exactly alikethe surrounding is different. I wish they had stadium seating at Disneyland the way we have it at MGM. It was really hard to see with all the trees along the Rivers of America.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

No...having the show not in its own stadium really adds to the magic of it.

-- PMM

[Disneyland_Wolf]

Yeah, but WDW's mountain stage is more far apart. You can't get more of the action in your face, like DL's version.

[xfkirsten]

Originally Posted by HMF

I like that this one has more villains in it.and you dont want to have the two exactly alikethe surrounding is different. I wish they had stadium seating at Disneyland the way we have it at MGM. It was really hard to see with all the trees along the Rivers of America.

It'd be nice that there's more villains... except that they just have clips of the villains laughing for ages on end, and it gets old fast. Now, if the additional villains actually added something to the show, I'd be all for it!

I definitely want the shows to be different. I think the letdown is that WDW has this big, nice stadium, but they don't seem to make full use of it. The set dwarfs the show. They had the potential to do something big in that space, but they don't. I do know that space is an issue, which is why they can't do a sequence like the Peter Pan one (they only have space backstage for one boat, Steamboat Willie), which kind of leads me to believe that the stadium itself was poorly planned from a creative standpoint. They didn't give themselves the room for something bigger. They built a big mountain, and put small scenes in front of it. It's hard for me to explain, but it just seems like such a waste.

Originally Posted by Disneyland_Wolf

Yeah, but WDW's mountain stage is more far apart. You can't more of the action in your face, like DL's version.

I think that's part of my problem with it. You're more separated from the action than you are at Disneyland. It just seems to much more exciting when the show is right in your face and it's big - you have the Mark Twain and the Columbia towering over you. When you lose that, you just don't feel like you're in the action as much.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Good points kirsten. Add to that Fantasmic! is stuck in a what is not a full day park...only maybe 2 or 3 other headline attractions, and the circle of Disneyland envy is complete.

-- PMM

[fantasmic_boy122]

idunno... i think itz a little out there but i like the villains added to it