Epcot Is Dying

[Neo]

define education for me please

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Originally Posted by k_peek_2000

Your just saying that, because if you ask 99.9% of all students out there, they would agree with the fact that anything is more important than education, if you ask any large buisness in america or the world they will also agree, Marketing is more important than education. Its business. Disney wouldnt be disney if it werent for the sometimes brillaint marketing.

Well obviously students would rather go on the Buzz Lightyear ride instead of learning something about the history of human communication, as summarized and wowified as it may be. There is a very misguided assumption out there that education and having fun are two entirely seperate elements that could never hope to be interwoven together. More than that, any person who attempts to educate themselves is looked on as a geek, nerd, loser, etc & buckling down in studies is extremely devalued by the pop culture of today.

I disagree. I believe that people can have the time of their lives while learning something they never knew before. Just look at Mission: Space or Test Track. Mission: Space gave me a window of the intensity that goes into training to be an astronaut. I knew about those centrifuges & the G-forces they have to endure, and I got a chance to feel it, at least a little bit. With Test Track, we see a little bit into the testing of cars before they go out on the road. They aren't very educating at all, but they are informing, and they are also quite thrilling original attractions. I see nothing wrong at all with designing more rides in that sort of template. Edutainment can exist and it can work very well.

-- PMM

[linklewtt]

my big beef with this new Seas with Nemo and Friends ride is that it is completely different from what the ride originally stood for. the ride originally was a way for you to sit back and look in wonder all around you at the different sea life and just be amazed at this world. but now, the Imagineers tried to mask that world. sure the new ride has great technology and such, but Nemo and his friends are trying to push out the actual seas, the REAL seas and the REAL animals.

the imagineers tried to divert your attention to the projections rather than the life all around you. and that i hate. they could have easily made the attraction into a classic edutainment ride by keeping the story of Nemo is lost and you need to find him. Dory and Marlin would join you on the seacrh for Nemo, but as you go through the ocean, they would point out to you the different life you see. they wouldn't be projected anywhere except in like the first scene of the ride. you would only hear therir voice, like the Ghost Host in HM. it would have been such a better ride, but now it just remains the exploitation of another Pixar franchise.

thank you so much John Lasseter!

[Foolish Mortal]

Originally Posted by PeoplemoverMatt

The Nemo overlay to The Living Seas is old news. While it's another movie-based theme invasion of an attraction, I hardly think Epcot's spirit is dying because of it. I don't think this is like the Pirates movie-additions at all. I think the Nemo characters here are there to help kids learn about the Seas, but I could be wrong.

I kind of agree wit PeoplemoverMatt. The Living Seas was a great attraction: with a movie, a hydrilator ride,sea creatures in giant tanks, a neat ride through the glass tank, and other exhibits. Over the years, a lot was being taken out and it became a hydrilator ride to an aquarium. It lost a lot. Finding Nemo may not be a good overlay for Epcot, but the attraction has more than it has had over recent years. The way I see it, they spruced up the place. And with the nemo characters, more kids will find the attraction interesting again!

[mrhappybomb]

I actually Liked Epcot I loved how all there rides have some type of learning experience including Test Track and Mission: SPACE.

[Jezebel]

the real problem, I think. about general updates in epcot and the rest of disney world is probably the fact that they throw off theme balance with their rides. as you said HMF (a couple years ago,basically), Epcot is losing it's glory and reason. well this because they are adding new things in and other ride have a hard time blending in. it is hard to explain really.