Do You Think Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage Should Be Brought To Future World

gurugriff100 · 04-29-2008, 07:34 PM

Do You Guys Think The Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage Should Be Moved To Epcot? Do You Think So? If Not, Why?

I'm Not Sure If They Should Bring It There. Why? Because It Already Has The Seas With Nemo And Friends. It's Basically The Submarine Voyege Without A Few Things.

Legacy · 04-29-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gurugriff100

Do You Guys Think The Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage Should Be Moved To Epcot? Do You Think So? If Not, Why?

I'm Not Sure If They Should Bring It There. Why? Because It Already Has The Seas With Nemo And Friends. It's Basically The Submarine Voyege Without A Few Things.

Water or Subs?

I voted no for the same reason, but at the same time a Submarine Voyage based on a film has little/no place Future War. The Seas attraction works because of it's educational aspects. A sub attraction would have to tie in to the aquarium, but the costs of that would be astronomical.

mrhappybomb · 04-30-2008, 11:39 AM

I don't think so I liked the Nemo ride they have there liked stated above the cost would be just to great to build the water tank and the subs. Leave the subs at Disneyland and The Seas With Nemo and Friends at Epcot's Future World.

PeoplemoverMatt · 04-30-2008, 02:52 PM

Having been on both quite a few times, I can say while the Seas w/ Nemo & Friends & the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage aren't the exact same ride per se, there is about 6 or so minutes of Pixar animation content that IS exactly the same and is being used in both rides. It was a way of saving money between the 2 "new" attractions.

So while even though riders are in a different vehicle in a little different environment, they are basically having the same ride experience in terms of the Finding Nemo content. Since that is the case, neither attraction can be cloned/imported into either US Disney Resort.

-- PMM

HMF · 04-30-2008, 03:27 PM

Absolutely not. The fact that Nemo is now the focus of the Seas angers me.

Legacy · 04-30-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HMF

Absolutely not. The fact that Nemo is now the focus of the Seas angers me.

Living Seas was dead five years ago. Sea Base Alpha didn't do a thing for people. At least the clown-fish has something that brings in an audience.

ryguy222 · 04-30-2008, 09:50 PM

No, it'd cost way to much, and the fact that disney filled in the lagoon in WDW, and put in jolly ol' but not so fun pooh bear, shows that they don't want a submarine ride.

PeoplemoverMatt · 05-01-2008, 12:47 AM

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At least the clown-fish has something that brings in an audience.

Nemo provides something familiar that's marketable and recognizeable. That makes it easier to convince current and future WDW guests that it's worth their time to see the attraction.

However, it doesn't mean that "The Living Seas" with SeaBase Alpha wasn't worth their time. They probably just didn't receive hardly any marketing, or any notification at all of the attraction's presence. That, combined with the lack of a reconigzeable character, makes it a lot harder to attract guests. But is that the attraction's fault? Or is it WDW basically giving up on what was a good attraction in favor of taking the easy way out?

-- PMM

Legacy · 05-01-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PeoplemoverMatt

Nemo provides something familiar that's marketable and recognizeable. That makes it easier to convince current and future WDW guests that it's worth their time to see the attraction.

However, it doesn't mean that "The Living Seas" with SeaBase Alpha wasn't worth their time. They probably just didn't receive hardly any marketing, or any notification at all of the attraction's presence. That, combined with the lack of a reconigzeable character, makes it a lot harder to attract guests. But is that the attraction's fault? Or is it WDW basically giving up on what was a good attraction in favor of taking the easy way out?

-- PMM

The Living Seas was an incredible attraction 15 years ago when it still had the Sea Cabs, the Hydrolaters were incredibly unique and an aquarium that size was rare. Most major cities now have comparable aquariums, which makes Living Seas as it was less unique. Losing the Sea Cabs really hurt, and unfortunately, the shaking floors of the Hydrolators simply aren't enough to warrant advertising. As much I like the concept of Seabase Alpha, it was a very 80's idea that desperately needed to update.

The original idea was to give Living Seas a Little Mermaid-overlay. Frankly, I'd rather real fish than mythical creatures be the advertising point.

tomserwin · 05-01-2008, 11:09 PM

Umm... for all intents and purposes, it is there. Granted there are no submarines but it is (in my opinion) a superior ride. The wait is much shorter, the number of people it can take at once is much greater, it is constant circulation, and therefore, a better ride. You are essentially getting the same ride in a clam instead of a sub.

Foolish Mortal · 05-12-2008, 02:30 PM

No! I would love to see a submarine ride brought back to WDW, but not Pixar related. I never got to ride 20k under the sea (but I saw an excellent video) and would like to see that brought back, but what are the chances of doing that?!?

Mad About Mickey · 05-17-2008, 11:40 AM

I say no because it's so similar to The Seas with Nemo and Friends. I watched the video of the submarine voyage before going on The Seas, and I noticed very few differences.

PeoplemoverMatt · 05-17-2008, 07:24 PM

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Umm... for all intents and purposes, it is there. Granted there are no submarines but it is (in my opinion) a superior ride. The wait is much shorter, the number of people it can take at once is much greater, it is constant circulation, and therefore, a better ride. You are essentially getting the same ride in a clam instead of a sub.

So a higher capacity alone makes a better ride? I disagree. Despite the circuit only being big enough for 8 subs to be out there at once causing capacity to be a lot less than an omnimover, IMHO the ability to ride in a real submarine can't be topped over an omnimover that can be themed to anything.

-- PMM

ohtherain · 05-27-2008, 03:33 PM

I've been to the Seas recently - nothing of interest there...
Don't want to see more Disney-Pixar over-promotion, especially in the case of them already having a Nemo ride. If this was to replace it, I'd prefer the old ride.

AraBrokenDreamer · 05-28-2008, 08:47 AM

Pixar has enough of a standing in the parks, do not take a somewhat educational experience and turn it into another promotion that most school-age kids I know are sick of!! Everyone over the age of ten in my school district has seen the move at least 5 times during school when the teachers needed filler. Them doing pretty much the same thing (replacing educational content with mindless marketing) with the Subs would be unacceptable and to a point despicable. Besides, the Livng Seas were already partially ruined thanks to it, and the subs lagoon was filled in, so why bring it back to another park at WDW? If they need to revive and retheme it... think of something else. I kid you not, Pixar is the last thing I want there.

-Ara

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mrhappybomb People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas,Nevada Posts: 1,543 Images: 10	I don't think so I liked the Nemo ride they have there liked stated above the cost would be just to great to build the water tank and the subs. Leave the subs at Disneyland and The Seas With Nemo and Friends at Epcot's Future World. __________________ Times been on Indiana Jones Adventure scenes the day it opened: 201 Times been on Canyon Blaster scenes 2004: 405 Check out my first Music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te5GkcLkP5o My Countdown Counting down to: Ghost Galaxy yes it's here
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PeoplemoverMatt An Objective Perspective People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 4,745 Images: 18	Having been on both quite a few times, I can say while the Seas w/ Nemo & Friends & the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage aren't the exact same ride per se, there is about 6 or so minutes of Pixar animation content that IS exactly the same and is being used in both rides. It was a way of saving money between the 2 "new" attractions. So while even though riders are in a different vehicle in a little different environment, they are basically having the same ride experience in terms of the Finding Nemo content. Since that is the case, neither attraction can be cloned/imported into either US Disney Resort. -- PMM __________________ "I don't believe in taking foolish chances, but nothing can be accomplished without taking any chance at all." -- Charles Augustus Lindberg "Our greatest natural resource is the minds of our children." -- Walter Elias Disney "So are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him...so we too might walk in the newness of life." -- Romans 6:1-4
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HMF Haunted Mansion Fan People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 899	Absolutely not. The fact that Nemo is now the focus of the Seas angers me.
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tomserwin People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greegoil-Zbokk, Sector Two. Posts: 1,848 Images: 8	Umm... for all intents and purposes, it is there. Granted there are no submarines but it is (in my opinion) a superior ride. The wait is much shorter, the number of people it can take at once is much greater, it is constant circulation, and therefore, a better ride. You are essentially getting the same ride in a clam instead of a sub. __________________ *It's not very far from Sulphur to Sugarcane.* My Countdown Counting down to: Next trip to Disneyland. At Disenyland, making full benefit of my Annual Pass.
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Foolish Mortal There's always my way.... People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: I'm not telling you! Posts: 57	No! I would love to see a submarine ride brought back to WDW, but not Pixar related. I never got to ride 20k under the sea (but I saw an excellent video) and would like to see that brought back, but what are the chances of doing that?!? __________________ THE WISDOM OF NAPOLEON DYNAMITE "Mist effects, 3D effects, pepper ghost effects.... people only want Disney rides with great effects." "I told you! I spent the summer with the Pirates of the Carribbean fighting sea monsters!" "I see you're going on the tame version of Mission: Space. Is it 'cause you think you'll barf? You could go on the regular one." "Hey, Donald Duck, I caught you a delicious bass." "Pirates' Lair- it's pretty much my favorite attraction. It's like Tom Sawyer's Island and Pirates of the Carribbean mixed." "Vote for Mickey Mouse and all your wildest dreams will come true." "I'm not gunna see High School Musical Pep Rally, ya sicko!"
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Mad About Mickey People who found this post helpful: Join Date: May 2008 Location: The Second Star to the Right and Straight On 'Till Morning! Posts: 917	I say no because it's so similar to The Seas with Nemo and Friends. I watched the video of the submarine voyage before going on The Seas, and I noticed very few differences. __________________
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ohtherain People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narnia Posts: 125	I've been to the Seas recently - nothing of interest there... Don't want to see more Disney-Pixar over-promotion, especially in the case of them already having a Nemo ride. If this was to replace it, I'd prefer the old ride. __________________ Step right over and watch me put it down! Step right over and watch me put it down, down on the ground... ...'Cause you know I've got it goin' on! S I M P Squirrels In My Pants!
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AraBrokenDreamer People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sanctuary of Dreams Posts: 1,381 Images: 3	Pixar has enough of a standing in the parks, do not take a somewhat educational experience and turn it into another promotion that most school-age kids I know are sick of!! Everyone over the age of ten in my school district has seen the move at least 5 times during school when the teachers needed filler. Them doing pretty much the same thing (replacing educational content with mindless marketing) with the Subs would be unacceptable and to a point despicable. Besides, the Livng Seas were already partially ruined thanks to it, and the subs lagoon was filled in, so why bring it back to another park at WDW? If they need to revive and retheme it... think of something else. I kid you not, Pixar is the last thing I want there. -Ara __________________ Scripts are the soil of a film. The story is the seed, the actors are the water, and the crew are the sunlight, giving it the chance to bloom into a brilliant flower. "I have no use for people who throw their weight around as celebrities, or for those who fawn over you just because you are famous. " -Walt Disney
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