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Old 06-24-2008, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Welcome foolish mortals to project 3. We are moving to better and more challenging things. Since the handicapped have to ride the stretch room back up to park level at the Haunted Mansion, and see the room fold back up with nothing else but squeaks bangs and other loud noises. We want you to create a show sequence that can be played for the ADA, aka handicapped that will play when they go back up to park level. Remember to stay true to the story. Your cadaverous parlor senses a disquieting metamorphoses , of course it does, your project awaits you, but I leave you with this…..beware of the hitchhiking ghosts. This is all to be done for the Haunted Mansion

Requirements

You MUST create a show sequence for the handicapped in the elevator
You MUST use what exists in the stretch room and cannot add anything
You MUST stay in the theme of the Mansion
You CANNOT use the attic
You MUST create at least one new special effect

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Following Directions /50 (10 or no points for each MUST)
Story /20
Theming /15
Creativity /15
Realism /10
Effects /10

Extra Credit

+1 point for each image (limit five)

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-10 for block text/hard to read
-1 for each time you ask when the grades/new project will be posted (It will be posted when it's posted, easy as that)
-5 points for each day late

Good luck, your projects are due Saturday June 5th. And for the record, the following people are still in the competition

-Mad About Mickey
-ROMANARMS
-Disneylover4ever
-Basketbuddy101
-SPCMT

Also, Jagfkb, when you get the chance, please grade the remaining projects for project 2.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
 

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o.k. this is a project that i do not understand at all:
-what is attic?
-what do you mean by elivator and show sequence (o you mean all the things you go through before boarding the vehicle?)
-does it includes the quee?
-what do you mean by "using only what exist in the streching room?"

plus, junr 5 already happened, perhaps you meant july 5?
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you know anything about the different Haunted Mansions (WDW, DL, TDL, DLP)?

Ok we were going to make you find out which one had the elevator, but now I have to explain.

Disneyland's HM uses a elevator in the stretching room to get guests below the railroad tracks and into the show building. The attic is what appears when the lights go out and you see the person hung (which to major belief is Master Gracey himself). You can only use what is available in the stretching rooms already i.e paintings, the stretchable walls, lighting, etc. You cant use the attic, since that had already been revealed to you in the beginning.

Handicapped ride the elevator down to board the ride, then they make the full loop, which makes them go past the unload area up around the backstage area past the control room, and back down to load, where they exit and go back up the elevator to exit the attraction. When they ride the elevator back up there is no lighting, no sound no nothing, just the squeak creaks and bangs of the paintings rolling back up and the walls hitting each other as they slide back up into place.

We want you to create a show sequence, something that takes place to enhance their ride back up, something with the ghost host, or some sound to cover the walls and rollers for the paintings, something, a show sequence.

You cant add anything thats visible in the room as it will take away from the existing attraction. You can add to the existing lighting thats hidden in the lintel, but you cant add anything visible.

Ive said to much as it is, but I had to for those that don't know a darn thing about the Mansion. Really people...come on now. Im not doing this every project. I'm not spoon feeding you info. Go read articles, dig deep into forums, ask other members. Its called taking it upon yourself. I wasn't given all the info I know, by hand, I had to learn it, I had to study it, I had to RESEARCH IT.

As I have already given you the info you should have found yourself, does anyone need a diagram of how the walls and elevator work at DLs Mansion. I have a word file that I can email to you. Just PM me. And this is the last time I will be this generous. This is a competition of skill and talent, both of which requires a thought process to occur on your side.

And yes we meant July 5th.

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Okay, two of the "MUSTS" seem to kind of contradict one another. It says that we can only use the existing stuff in the stretching room, but also that we need one new special effect. Does this mean that we have to put in a new special effect, but it can only be added to something that's already there (i.e. the gargoyles, the hanging body, etc.)? That's the only thing I'm a tad confused about. Thanks!
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You can add lighting, sound, anything you want to the existing room, as long as it doesn't alter how the room looks, now that doesn't mean that it has to play, or move (wink) during the beginning. There is tons that you can do to the room to add a new effect, without it being seen or altering the room. I just came up with about 3 good ideas. Maybe I should have said cant add anything visible instead of cant add anything...

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What I think you mean is that nothing can be added which will provide a different experience for the regular riders, right? So, lets say you wanted to add an animatronic feature to the gargoyles, which would otherwise remain still during the regular show sequence, could you do that? I know I'm a judge, but I was curious as to whether that could actually happen...

Also, would it be so terrible for me not to grade? I'm sorry, I'm just really swamped with rewriting my show for my producer, and any extra time would be greatly appreciated...

AKA, I'll do it, if you really want me to...
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Old 06-24-2008, 04:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Jag, not to be mean, but I would highly rethink your priorities, if writing your show is more important, then by all means do that. We can handle with 2 judges. Or we could pick up a 3rd, I do have someone that might be interested. If you can handle both then yes, please grade.

Your other question was answered in a PM. My answer would be very helpful to the contestants, but I dont want to help anymore, Ive done enough as is.

And no thats not what I mean...I dont think. Im saying if you create something that is only going to be used for the ADA sequence, then that something cant be seen or used for the regular show mode. And it also cant be visible in the room, unless its something that can be turned off or stopped that currently already resides in the room. If you are adding something that doesn't exist in there already, then that something has to be hidden enough, or completely hidden, as not to ruin the visual impact of the regular show mode.

I may be sounding technical, but I don't believe im saying anything thats surpassing people's intelligence level in this competition.

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Okay, thanks for clearing that up! Thanks Lighttech!
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No, no, no... It's not that I don't want to judge, it's just that time for me is rather tight, and, like you, they are really important things. I'll post my scores either tonight or tommorrow.
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I didnt understand well this project we need to add a new scene to the elevator room or to the exit for handicap people???
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The stretching room at Disneyland is an elevator, it takes people down, instead of like WDWs were you never move, just the ceiling rises. The handicapped people have to use the stretch room to get back out of the mansion since they are below park level.

I dont see how any of these is confusing.
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Ok sorry for the question but i was a little confused. Because i dont want to post something that is not what you ask for so. Thanks for clearing my question
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Ok sorry for the question but i was a little confused. Because i dont want to post something that is not what you ask for so. Thanks for clearing my question
I understand, but coming from my point of view you have to understand that it gets annoying to have to type the same thing over and over worded differently just so you understand it.

There is tons of info out there on the Haunted Mansion. You could have done the research. Im sure those of you in high school know what research is. I know many projects that you do, or papers you write require research. I had to do tons of research to write my final for one of my lighting classes. 35 pages, single spaced on, The Physiological Effects of Lighting on a Person. I had to do experiments, research into how the human brain interprets and processes color and light. I had to study to see if a brain actually believes that the lighting on stage is really at night, or really set in winter or fall.

I had to do the research now im making you. Im trying to teach you guys things that could be helpful to you in your career choice, albiet imagineering or not.

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I understand, but coming from my point of view you have to understand that it gets annoying to have to type the same thing over and over worded differently just so you understand it.

There is tons of info out there on the Haunted Mansion. You could have done the research. Im sure those of you in high school know what research is. I know many projects that you do, or papers you write require research. I had to do tons of research to write my final for one of my lighting classes. 35 pages, single spaced on, The Physiological Effects of Lighting on a Person. I had to do experiments, research into how the human brain interprets and processes color and light. I had to study to see if a brain actually believes that the lighting on stage is really at night, or really set in winter or fall.

I had to do the research now im making you. Im trying to teach you guys things that could be helpful to you in your career choice, albiet imagineering or not.
Ok, i just said thank, I know that it gets annoying but if you dont like to answer questions you shouldnt be a judge, because judges not only post the project and grade it. They run the comp, when i say run is like answering question, and make everyone is clear, ithink youre been a little rude. Check it out this...

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Welcome foolish mortals to project 3. We are moving to better and more challenging things. Since the handicapped have to ride the stretch room back up to park level at the Haunted Mansion, and see the room fold back up with nothing else but squeaks bangs and other loud noises. We want you to create a show sequence that can be played for the ADA, aka handicapped that will play when they go back up to park level. Remember to stay true to the story. Your cadaverous parlor senses a disquieting metamorphoses , of course it does, your project awaits you, but I leave you with this…..beware of the hitchhiking ghosts. This is all to be done for the Haunted Mansion
He is not even saying an expecific HM, may i know which one is underground. Maybe yes we should de our research, but dont give us 1 sentence and everyting else, do the research. I dont want to be rude but its just what i think.
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Right but we wanted you to do the research to find out which one had the mansion, thats if you didn't already know. Disneyland's Mansion, and Paris's Mansion, are the only two mansions that use lifts that lower the floor.

I wasn't trying to be rude, I was just trying to get you to do the research. You can ask question, but asking questions that can be answered through looking up the info yourself, is highly annoying. I'm not going to be there when or if you get into Imagineering to spoon feed you all the answers.

Right judges answer questions, but in order for us to be able to stay sane, we don't feel like repeating ourselves 50 times. And if you read every one of my posts, I clearly stated in at least two of them that it was Disneyland's Mansion.

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Ok we were going to make you find out which one had the elevator, but now I have to explain.

Disneyland's HM uses a elevator in the stretching room to get guests below the railroad tracks and into the show building. The attic is what appears when the lights go out and you see the person hung (which to major belief is Master Gracey himself). You can only use what is available in the stretching rooms already i.e paintings, the stretchable walls, lighting, etc. You cant use the attic, since that had already been revealed to you in the beginning.

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The stretching room at Disneyland is an elevator, it takes people down, instead of like WDWs were you never move, just the ceiling rises. The handicapped people have to use the stretch room to get back out of the mansion since they are below park level.
So again, before you go off in a tangent, I would have read up a bit in earlier posts.

I'm not being rude, I'm being strict. I run a tight ship, I take no crap from no one, and horseplay is not tolerated.

And I did answer everyones questions earlier on in one large post, and then again in two smaller ones.

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