How would you improve the Disneyland Resort?

[Big Disney Fan]

This is the first in a series of "improving Disney parks" threads, starting with the Disneyland Resort in California! If you have your own ideas to improve the parks, feel free to add to 'em!

Here are my updates (the first post will focus only on Disneyland):

DISNEYLAND
MAIN STREET U.S.A.
1. An Adventure In the Magic Kingdom: This is a new theater show at the Opera House, to play before "Mr. Lincoln". It will be a veritable montage of clips of all Disney parks worldwide, with Tinker Bell as your hostess!
2. Main Street Cinema: With the exception of Steamboat Willie, all the other screens showing Disney cartoons will be replaced by continuous showings of old theatrical trailers from Disney movies.

FANTASYLAND
1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: Snow White's Scary Adventures will receive a significant revision, to focus less on the Queen/Witch and more on Snow White.
2. Peter Pan's Flight: Nothing majorly different except to make the figures move more fluidly and to replace the old two-seater ships with four-seaters.
3. Mad Tea Party: A canopy roof will be added to protect the ride from the elements.
4. It's a Small World: Nothing in the ride itself will be changed, but to allow for inclement weather, the canal outside the building will be covered in big long canopy roofs, a la Disneyland Paris.
5. Alice In Wonderland: Half the Caterpillar cars will be scrapped and replaced by bigger-capacity Cheshire Cat cars. His eyes and grin glow in the dark, so that when you pass by another such car, you can see them glow.

ADVENTURELAND
1. The Flying Carpets of Aladdin: This is a brand-new attraction, a direct lift of Florida's Carpet ride, where you board one of 16 flying carpets for a quick flight around Adventureland.

CRITTER COUNTRY
1. Splash Mountain: Again, the ride will be subtlely but significantly updated. More on that later...
2. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: To up the capacity of the attraction, I will revise the entryway to not be so secluded. Maybe I'll create big statues of the Pooh characters, pointing the way. The queue and load area will be completely indoors and look like the queue in Tokyo's Pooh ride. And the ride itself will receive a big update, too: the characters figures themselves will remain but the scenery will be revised to go from simple flats to actual 3D scenery, a la Tokyo's Pooh ride. In the end, the ride will certainly not be an exact duplicate of Tokyo's Pooh ride (it will be physically impossible for that), but neither will it be simply flat scenes.

MICKEY'S TOONTOWN
The entire land will be updated and expanded. More on that later.

TOMORROWLAND
1. Astro Orbiter: The rockets will be relocated to their proper position at the end of Tomorrowland's main drag and placed on top of the platform above the load area of the "new" Tomorrowland Transit Authority.
2. The Incredibles: Escape Nomanisan!: Replacing Innoventions is this impressive new dark ride. Here, you meet Mr. Incredible and his family and try to help them in the battle to do two things: escape from the titular island and save the world from the threat of the villainous Syndrome!
3. Star Tours: With all the rumors of the Endor trip being replaced by other planets, I've been thinking of how to do this win-win style. I like the idea of keeping things fresh here, but I was thinking that with four simulators here, why not have four different trips at once, one trip per simulator, with a trip to a different planet on each one? This way the situation is win-win. In this case, I'm thinking of having a trip to Endor be on the first one, only to wind up at the Death Star (in other words, it's the same ride as always). The second simulator has a trip to Tatooine, where you witness a Pod Race. The third simulator goes to Hoth (the ice planet from Episode V). And the fourth flight is to Naboo.
4. Tomorrowland Transit Authority: The PeopleMover is back in the guise of this new elevated trip around Tomorrowland. As a nod to history, the ride will be hosted by Tom Morrow (voiced by Nathan Lane) and the cars will be called Viewliners, named after the predecessors of the Monorail.
5. Tron 4D: Replacing Honey, I Shrunk the Audience is this brand-new immersive 4D experience, based on the 1982 Disney film, Tron. Enter the realm of the computer and join Tron as you help him battle against the wrath of the Master Control Program!

I will go into greater detail on the attraction improvements at a later date.

[inherprime]

We got the Subs back now lets get those Peoplemovers back again & Great Moments with Lincoln back.

[sciaticus]

this is just a suggestion for the imagineering department at disney. you should create a simlar technology to Star tours but on a much smaller scale that would enable the riders to select their own ride, theme, and not just a flight simulator but a water one or walking through the forest and you answer questions along the way and you recieve points. but the ride should be built for only 2 people at a time. i have looked into this and it seems like it would tons of fun for everyone. it would be si mlar to the scene you see in the movie disclosure with michael douglas and Demi moore
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[Big Disney Fan]

Now, the next part of the improvement scheme: Disney's California Adventure.

1. Back To Neverland: The old show on the process of animation, hosted by Robin Williams and Walter Cronkite, will return to coincide with the return of 2D animation.
2. The Great Muppet Movie Ride: Yes, at long last, the Muppet-based parody of the Great Movie Ride is finally coming into being! The movies parodied, according to an article by Jim Hill (see this link here to see said article), will include, but are definitely not limited to:

• Frankenstein (1931): With Kermit and Miss Piggy as the heroes, Dr. Bunsen Honeydew as the mad scientist and Beaker as the giant monster.
• Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979): A movie version of the "Pigs In Space" skit. The movie here is called "Swine Trek". Here, the crew of the USS Swinetrek is battling space pi-rats.
• Peter Pan (1953): With Kermit as Pan, Janice (of the Muppets' house band, Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem) as Wendy, Scooter as John, Fozzie as Michael and Miss Piggy as Tinkerbell.

There are all kind of punny touches every which way you look, plus a running gag in the form of Waldorf and Statler riding around in a golf cart. This will be a great ride for all.
3. Mickey's PhilharMagic: The WDW show will come to California through the Hollywood Pictures Backlot, replacing Muppet*Vision 3D.
4. Voyages of the Little Mermaid: At long last, a dark ride based on The Little Mermaid finally comes to life! It will look exactly like the ride seen on the PE DVD. It will be placed at Paradise Pier, possibly replacing Mulholland Madness.

What do you think of these ideas?

[Brer_Rabbit]

^ I would love to see Mickey's PhillharMagic at DCA!! I live in SoCal, so Florida and that's a pretty big trip.. my parents took me when I was like... 6 or 7 so I don't know if I saw it or not. I really want to go back to see all the Florida things but that's a pretty pricey trip.. srry off topic.

Voyages of the Little Mermaid would be GREAT!! That would fit very well I think, Mulholland Madness is a SUPER fun ride, but they could get rid of it for a dark ride.. or maybe move it back or something

[Big Disney Fan]

I have created a list of updates for Disneyland's Splash Mountain. Before I mention them, though, I'm trying to keep them inside the existing track without changing things too much physically:

1. The ride's soundtrack will be revised thus: the music on the outside as you cruise the outside of the mountain is in the country-western style, but will change to the orchestra style as you enter the mountain.

2. As you go up the first lift hill, you pass by Brer Frog giving you some parting words, just like he does in FL and Japan. He says things like, "Some folks 'round here say Brer Rabbit's lookin' for adventure, but I say he's headin' for trouble," "Mark my words, that young Brer Rabbit scamp is gonna put his foot in Brer Fox's mouth one o' these days," and "If you ask me, sooner than later, that Brer Fox and Brer Bear's gonna catch that Brer Rabbit for sure."

3. As you pass along beside the big drop, you will hear an Uncle Remus-style narration beginning to tell you the story: "Welcome to a joyful adventure down into the Briar Patch." It's at this point that the orchestral music takes over.

4. Before going down the first drop, you hear Brer Fox saying from his home (a sign points to the location), "That big ol' rabbit won't get away this time. I'll catch him sure!"

5. Passing by Brer Rabbit and Brer Turtle outside the Briar Patch, you pass by Brer Fox and Brer Bear looking at them across the water. Brer Fox says something like, "So Brer Rabbit's lookin' for some adventure, eh?" and "Alright, Brer Bear, this time we're gonna catch that Brer Rabbit for sure." The reason why Brer Fox says "...this time..." is so to reflect the hasty rabbit trap where we first see the the two rogues.

6. As you pass below Brer Rabbit on the railroad trestle, he says to Brer Fox and Brer Bear, "You boys can't catch me! My Laughing Place is where I'm bound."

7. The hitchhiking alligator has a guitar.

8. As you descend the waterfall into the Laughing Place, you hear the sound of branches breaking as the tree housing the place gives way, followed by Brer Fox and Brer Bear screaming as they supposedly tumble over the falls, followed by a loud splash.

9. Brer Frog and Brer Turtle are now seen in the Laughing Place scene, singing "Everybody's Got a Laughing Place". The frog is seen eating honey from a beehive and laughing while the turtle reclines on a small fountain of water.

10. After you pass by the Burrow's Lament scene and before you pass by the vultures, you see Brer Bear with a red nose (from getting stung by the bees). He says one of three things at random with an evil laugh: "You better be sayin' good-bye to Brer Rabbit," "I shoulda knocked his head clean off," and "He said it was a Laughing Place and I ain't laughin'."

11. As you pass below the vultures and make your way up the hill, you hear Remus narrating, "It sure looks like Brer Rabbit's time had done run out for sure. He done used up his whole bag o' tricks."

12. As you make the wide turn in the river to reenter the mountain, you pass below squirt guns disguised as sapling trees on the bridge. Guests on the bridge over the Splash Mountain river can have the opportunity to try and spray you from up there.

13. Much of the return into the mountain is now covered and protected from the elements.

14. The screen displaying your picture being taken of you going down the plunge is back on again.

15. During this same scene, the Remus-type narrator says, "Well, that Brer Rabbit sure learned his lesson and so did Brer Fox. And it's like I always say: you can't run away from trouble; they're ain't no place that far."

Well, what do you think of my ideas? I'm also going to put the soundtrack alternations, the Remus narration, Brer Frog and Brer Turtle inside the Laughing Place, Brer Brer before the vulture branch and the sapling tree water cannons into the version in Tokyo Disneyland as well. In that case, the narration and dialogue will all be translated into Japanese. What do you think of my ideas? I want to see your ideas and opinions!

[MVP]

sounds good just wish it all could come true

[Big Disney Fan]

Another thing will return to Disneyland: the Electrical Parade! That's right, one of the most beloved Disney parades of all time will return to Disneyland, if I were to improve the park. However, I will improve on the parade, by having dialogue in the parade, not just from Alice and Pete (during the Pete's Dragon sequence), but from almost all the characters, like what happens in the current Tokyo Disneyland version of the parade. So this means the Blue Fairy will speak, so will Mickey, Minnie and Goofy, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Captain Hook, Wendy (I will add her to the Peter Pan scene) and Snow White. What do you think of these ideas?

Here are some other things that I think I will do specifically with the Electrical Parade when it returns to Disneyland...

1. On Casey Jr., the icon/logo on the sides and on the flags off the end of the drum will be replaced by the D in Disneyland like it always has been.
2. On the drum, the words will alternate "... Electrical Parade" and "A Disney Classic".
3. The Queen of Hearts will be added to the Alice scene.
4. Also in the Alice, the spinning creatures will be arranged as follows:

• Turtle w/ Glasses
• Green Bee

Then the butterfly mushroom...

• Snail w/ Red Shell

Then Alice's mushroom

• Turtle w/ Hat
• Millipede

Then the Caterpillar's mushroom...

• Snail w/ Blue/Green Shell
• Orange Bee

5. The small pillars around the clock tower in the Cinderella scene will occasionally disappear and reappear like they do at DCA now.
6. Wendy will now be seen on the pirate ship float in the Peter Pan scene.
7. The Dumbo scene will be slightly revised, partly to have the magician no longer look like a clown, which was actually how he looked when the parade went to WDW temporarily. (Here's a picture from that parade to show you what I mean: http://www.disneypix.com/MagicKingdo...SEP07_0101.htm.)
8. The Snow White and Pete's Dragon scenes will look the same as they do in DCA.
9. The To Honor America scene will feature the sounds of fireworks going off.
10. Another tactic used from WDW when the parade went there temporarily will be to have the Disney characters there. In this case, the characters on the left side of the floats will be:

• Chip
• Donald Duck
• Daisy Duck
• Winnie the Pooh
• Tigger
• Three Little Pigs
• Big Bad Wolf

And the characters on the right side of the floats will be:

• Dale
• Pluto
• Roger Rabbit
• Pinocchio
• Geppetto
• Jiminy Cricket
• Brer Fox
• Brer Bear

There's the list of changes. But I'm still having difficulty of what the parade should be specifically named. Here are the two choices:

• Disneyland Electrical Parade
• Main Street Electrical Parade
• Disney's Electrical Parade

Pick which one you like best and I will use it. I myself am leaning towards Disneyland Electrical Parade. That's got a good ring to it, don't you think?

[candystandman]

lovin the ideas man....
you people always impress me....
i dont have the patience to sit an hour in front of a screen typing...
excellent peeps

[Big Disney Fan]

Originally Posted by Big Disney Fan

I have created a list of updates for Disneyland's Splash Mountain. Before I mention them, though, I'm trying to keep them inside the existing track without changing things too much physically:

Well, what do you think of my ideas? I'm also going to put the soundtrack alternations, the Remus narration, Brer Frog and Brer Turtle inside the Laughing Place, Brer Brer before the vulture branch and the sapling tree water cannons into the version in Tokyo Disneyland as well. In that case, the narration and dialogue will all be translated into Japanese. What do you think of my ideas? I want to see your ideas and opinions!

Oh, and everything thought in this thread here on SM improvements will be included, too. Click here: Splash Mountain Idea you might like....

[Big Disney Fan]

I've been thinking about how Toontown at Disneyland has not been what it used to be. A lot of the things are a mere shell of their formal selves, especially Goofy's Bounce House, Donald's Boat and Chip 'n' Dale's Treehouse. And no more Jolly Trolley.

I think one of its many disadvantages is that much of it was built specifically for youngsters (save for Mickey and Minnie's Houses and the Car Toon Spin, which are built for everyone). So one of my plans is to fix some, if not all, the attractions up to be more accessible to other people besides just kids. Another disadvantage is that there's a dead end at the far end of the area. A great way to alleviate such a problem is to expand this area of Toontown to the Big Thunder Ranch area of the park to create a second entrance to the land. Here's a map that explains. Just click here to see.

If you can imagine the land being expanded left and then down into Frontierland, then you should have an idea of what I plan to do.

And now, here are the attractions of the new, improved Mickey's Toontown!

1. Chip 'n' Dale's Treehouse
2. Goofy's Airport
3. Goofy's KinderGarden
4. Toontown Transit Authority
5. Mickey's House
6. Minnie's House
7. Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin
8. Toon Park
9. Tugboat Donald
10. Von Drake's House of Genius

What did you think? I'll explain more in greater detail later.

[Big Disney Fan]

Originally Posted by Big Disney Fan

If you can imagine the land being expanded left and then down into Frontierland, then you should have an idea of what I plan to do.

And now, here are the attractions of the new, improved Mickey's Toontown!

1. Chip 'n' Dale's Treehouse
2. Goofy's Airport
3. Goofy's KinderGarden
4. Toontown Transit Authority
5. Mickey's House
6. Minnie's House
7. Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin
8. Toon Park
9. Tugboat Donald
10. Von Drake's House of Genius

What did you think? I'll explain more in greater detail later.

Before I mention anything, I'm going to make one thing clear: Mickey and Minnie's Houses and the Car Toon Spin, plus the Downtown and Town Square areas will all be unaltered.

Anyway, here's the description of the new Chip 'n' Dale's Treehouse! It will be very different and much better than the current Treehouse. It will no longer be a simple climb-thru attraction; now it will be an Orange Stinger-style swing ride with acorns as the seats. The swing structure will be in the form of a big tree with Chip 'n' Dale atop. People young and old can soar above the ground on high-flying swings designed like acorns. And the other thing here is that it will be themed to the cartoons we know the chipmunks for, instead of to Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers. I'm sure some of us are familiar with that show, but more people are familiar with the cartoons.

Another attraction will be the crown jewel of the new Toontown makeover: Goofy's Airport! Gone will be Gadget's Go Coaster (it will be completely demolished), replaced by this new family coaster. It's a family coaster so that grownups as well as kids can ride, too, with or without children. The old Goofy's Bounce House will also be scrapped, but some of its scenery will be reused to house a similarly-themed house, used as the queue area. The queue will feature a few interactive gags, like sound crates. The ride itself will feature airplanes that are red in color (like the glider plane in one early Goofy short).

The ride begins with a lift hill designed like a crude runway. Much of the ride will take place over a new Toon Lake where another attraction Tugboat Donald will take place, too. The peak of the hill provides a good view of Toontown from up there. After you go down the hill, you zip around turns and up and down hills with the propellors of the plane cars spinning. Since your flying around above a lake, the ride will be sort of like Carowinds' Super Saturator in that there will be spots during the ride where a fountain may shoot at you or you may even get bombarded by a water bomb. At one point, the planes smash through the tallest tower of Goofy's new house, sort of like what happens in the old Barnstormer attraction at WDW. As a nod to history, I will include the spitting frogs from GGC.

Well, that's it for now; look for more soon. Until then, what do you think so far?

[DisneyParksFan]

About Disney's California Adventure...

1) I'm not sure if Robin Williams would like to have himself re-appear in a Disney Theme Park again after his dispute with Disney. Then again, I dont know that much about the legal details behind re-introducing the movie.

2) Parody of The Great Movie Ride including the Muppets...I like it. Where would this be place in HPB?

3) I would like to see Mickey's PhilharMagic remain at MK and HKDL, we dont need to copy every attraction and introduce it at all the worldwide Disney Parks. Might I suggest a movie (3-D or not) including Disney characters that has a storyline along the lines of them trying to create a motion picture or something and you are the audience watching it being filmed.
This film would be more suited for HPB since it would be designed for the area (unlike PhilharMagic), and it would include a tie-in to the land unlike most (not all) new attractions these days.

4) What about placing the Little Mermaid attraction near Ariel's Grotto along the edge of the bridge that passes over California Screamin'? It could be placed in the Timon Lot. Having it there would make it much easier with keeping the little mermaid theme more unstandable, instead of having three seperate locations...Current Ariel's Grotto, Current King Triton's Carousel, and your proposed little mermaid dark ride.


~DisneyParksFan

[Big Disney Fan]

Alright, more on Toontown's improvements...

Now, the Jolly Trolley, in my opinion, is a bit of a liability, what with the crowds sometimes overflowing the area. Instead, a cartoon version of an elevated electrical transit ride will be used, a la Tomorrowland Transit Authority. The new Toontown ride will be called the Toontown Transit Authority. It will also be kind of Disney's answer to IOA's High In the Sky Seuss Trolley. It won't just be an elevated look at Toontown, there will be a few sights seen on this ride found ONLY in this ride.

The new kiddie playland area will be called Goofy's KinderGarden. It will have a McDonald's-like play area, albeit themed to Disney and it will feature all the traditions of a traditional children's playground: jungle gym, swings, slides, etc. Of course, the current Toon Park will also be retained.

I will post more about Toontown later on.

[Big Disney Fan]

And here's the last of the significant updates for Toontown...

One of the things coming to Toontown isn't really an attraction, it's a restaurant and the ultimate character dining experience: the House of Mouse! Here, you can dine in the famed supper club from the TV show of the same name. Every 45 minutes or so, a Mickey Mouse Revue-style show plays on the main stage for about ten minutes. Between those times, they play Disney cartoons on the big screen at the head of the place. No, it won't be the custom-made cartoons made especially for the TV show, they will be the classic cartoons we know Disney for (think the old Fantasyland Theater). And every ten minutes, a different Disney character visits a different table for a minimum of two minutes and a maximum of five. The beauty part of this is that the restaurant is an excellent opportunity for character greetings and pictures. Plus, the characters are always random, so you never know who will visit.

The last two new attractions are both themed to ducks. One of them is called Tugboat Donald (so-called because it's a parody title of the cartoon, Tugboat Mickey). This is an attraction on Toon Lake, based on an abandoned ride concept dating back to the 1950s. In the book about Disneyland's 50th anniversary, there is a section all about abandoned ride ideas. One of them is a Donald Duck-themed bumper boat ride. A new 21st century version of that ride will finally come into being, not as a bumper boat ride, but as an Aquatopia-style ride. The queue will be Donald's new house, or should I say, houseboat. There will also be an upper level for extended queue, as I'm quite sure this ride will be very popular. Anyway, the ride is followed thus: the vehicles are small tugboats that take you on a wild ride. Your tugboat will twist, turn, backup, spin around in place, all while taking you on a seemingly random trip dodging jagged rocks, spinning whirlpools, and other tugboats. Also, there are interactive water elements with water blasters for guests people-watching to use. Also, Huey, Dewey and Louie are also waiting to nail you, as are the frogs at the end of Goofy's Airport. Speaking of which, some of the ride goes under the tracks of the new roller coaster. The direction your vehicle travels in is not random, of course, but controlled by unseen technology borrowed from Tokyo's Pooh's Hunny Hunt. The movements of the boats are likely to be a bit unpredictable, but the ride is fun for kids and adults alike.

Now the other duck-themed attraction is called Von Drake's House of Genius. It's a multimedia show hosted by Ludwig Von Drake, featuring Audio-Animatronics and special effects (ALA Epcot's Cranium Command). There are two theaters in which the show (lecture) is presented, each one with Von Drake as host and a specific character is used as his particular "guinea pig". Now, one of the two shows is about health, but it's actually unoriginal: a slightly revised version of the old Wonders of Life show, "Goofy About Health". It will be the exact same show as in Epcot, but with Von Drake narrating and him being used instead of the unnamed doctor in the real show. The other show will be an original one about psychology, with Donald Duck. The post-show features all sorts of interactivities, including an area where you can determine which of the Fab Six you're most like.

Here's the verbal tour of the psychology show at House of Genius, with Luwdig Von Drake and Donald Duck...

Using a stubborn and averagely angry Donald as his guinea pig, Von Drake attempts to get to the root of Donald's signature short temper with his latest invention: a machine that can display Donald's inner thoughts onto a series of screens, making them easier to observe and diagnose. Once formalities are taken care of, the experiment begins. After reviewing episodes from Donald's childhood, relationship with his nephews and girlfriend Daisy and brushes with Pete, Pluto and Chip 'n' Dale (seen through clips of various Donald shorts displayed on the screens), they stumble onto his thoughts about Mickey Mouse himself. Sure he is the better actor of the two, Donald imagines filling Mickey's big yellow shoes in such roles as Steamboat Willie, Fantasia, and The Mickey Mouse Club (including a disgruntled Mickey shouting his name over the "Donald Duck Club" theme song). Von Drake is pleased with the progress they're making, and begins to ask Donald what he thinks of his other friends. Unfortunately, he can't comprehend a word Donald is saying. When he makes this fact known, Donald throws a big fit, accidentally causing Von Drake's invention to blow a major fuse. Then it hits Von Drake: it's Donald's voice! The reason Donald loses his temper so much comes from a subconscious frustration of people not being able to understand him. Certain this advice has cured Donald, he begins to perform a series of tough aggravation tests (including one featuring a not-so subtle reference to "It's a Small World" ) with excellent results. It looks like Donald will be cured for sure... that is, until he gets his VERY expensive bill. As the curtain closes, Von Drake says with a chuckle, "Well, I guess you can't win 'em all."

And those are the major updates to Toontown. So, what do you think of these ideas of mine? Seriously, I would like to see a response to my Toontown improvements and what you guys think.