Fantasmic at Walt Disney Studios Paris: Open Brainstorming

[Twilight_Roxas]

Since Paris doesn't have a Fantasmic and because the Tokyo version inspire me to make one. I will allowed ideas for the Paris version of Fantasmic the only differences are they both english and french.

please join in.

[AraBrokenDreamer]

I dunno if that's the way you'd wanna go with Mushu... Having a Mulan scene instead of Peter Pan/Pocahontas/Pirates might be cool, though, because Mushu could make fireworks go off before we transition into the Princess medley. I noticed ya'll mentioned a water screen montage along with the floats, and I say go for it... but put some new princesses on the boats, too, or use more of them.

I've got some ideas for the villain bit, too, but the one I really thought would be an interesting idea might be Brother Bear in place of Jungle Book/Lion King.

-Ara

[AraBrokenDreamer]

Originally Posted by evawms123

Alrighty,Ara,I'll cross out the previous idea with the Mushu in place of Kaa and Jafar and
suddenly agree with you.However,how will he do so on stage?Either as himself on
the water screens or like the Meet-and-Greet character?

Suddenly? However I win you over, I guess,

Either one, or he could be an animatronic on the "roof" that comes out for the Mulan scene. If I was to choose between the two of you, I'd have Mulan fighting Shang and then the water screen appear and show Mushu getting the rocket, which shoots Shang on stage as Mulan runs the other way to leap off the roof onto Shang.

Which stage did ya'll go with? And I hate to be the nay-sayer again, but the amphitheater at DHS actually helps with the show because they have more and better seating, you have better staging areas and stage access. You also don't impede operations as much for other attractions.

As far as a Kaa replacement, how would Brother Bear work?

-Ara

-Ara

[AraBrokenDreamer]

Originally Posted by evawms123

Mulan fighting Shang?You meant Shan-Yu,lol.Shang is suppose to help Mulan,not
fight her!But,what can ya do?Anyway,I'll go with the animatronic Mushu since water screens might not be the best idea.As of the Kaa replacement for the Brother Bear thing,
I'm not too sure.There's no snakes in the film and its sequel,so I'm really stumped.

No, no, no, the barges with the animals. Look at the WDW version with LK. you've got the flowers and the animals. On the stage you could probably have some sort of 'On My Way' or 'Welcome' variant with bears, moose, mammoths, etc on the barges. On the stage there could be the trees and then Koda and Kenai making their way across.

and it's been a few years since I've seen it, forgive me if I'm getting the wrong names down. Yes, she fights Shan Yu, leaps off the balcony down to Shang on the steps. That'll be some sweet tech inside Mushu, him being so small and all.

-Ara

[Twilight_Roxas]

That sounds good and how about we replace the Pink Elephants with Heffalumps & Woozles?

[AraBrokenDreamer]

That'd be interesting... but wasn't Heffalumps and Woozles part of the show that was turned into the Dancing Bubbles scene?

-Ara

[Twilight_Roxas]

No and speaking of the bubble scenes we could use that and Mickey is in the Heffalumps & Woozles scene lets think of old and new Disney films to use in the scene and lets think of the villains.

[Twilight_Roxas]

Sorry for the double post but here is the introduction message before the show starts in english and in french.

English intro
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Welcome to Fantasmic.Tonight our friend and host Mickey Mouse uses his vivid imagination to create imagery for all to enjoy.Nothing is more wonderful than the imagination.For in a moment you could experience a beautiful fantasy or a exciting adventure but beware nothing is powerful than the imagination for it could also expand your greatest fears into a overwhelming nightmare.Can the powers of Mickey's imagination strong enough and bright enough to withstand the evil forces that invade Mickey's dreams?Your about to find out.For now we invite you join Mickey and experience Fantasmic a journey beyond your wildest imagination.

French Intro
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Soyez bienvenus à Fantasmic. Ce soir notre ami et hôte mickey Mouse utilisent son imagination vivante de créer l'image pour tous pour apprécier. Rien n'est plus magnifique que l'imagination. Pour dans un instant vous pourriez connaître une belle fantaisie ou une aventure excitante, mais prendre garde rien n'est puissant que l'imagination pour cela pourrait aussi développer vos peurs les plus grandes dans un cauchemar écrasant. Peuvent les pouvoirs de l'imagination de Mickey assez forte et assez brillant pour résister aux méchantes forces qui envahissent les rêves de Mickey ? Votre étant sur le point apprennent. Pour maintenant nous vous invitons rejoignent Mickey et connaissent Fantasmic un voyage au-delà de votre imagination la plus sauvage.

[AraBrokenDreamer]

Well, what villains are even in contention for the villain solo? I think we're still having the Evil Queen for the transformation and summoning, but can we get in on another villain for the Ursual/Jafar bit? Like Facilier?

-Ara

[Twilight_Roxas]

I was thinking about the Sanderson Sisters from Hocus Pocus they might have a plan against Mickey.

[AraBrokenDreamer]

Uh... they'd be the first TV film characters included in here, and the second live-action characters (or first if we don't have the Pirates). Most people haven't seen Hocus Pocus, either, so why not stick to something a little more mainstream? We want someone somewhat current (Fantasmic came on in 91 or 92 and they did Ursula because she was the newest mega-villain, and when they re-did it for Florida's 95 version, Jafar was picked for her bit because he could utilize the snake that had been moved from the jungle scene, and Radcliffe had taken the Hook bit. what would be the newest powerhouse for this movie?).

-Ara

[Twilight_Roxas]

Good point well their hasn't been any Disney Villains from Pixar in Fantasmic.

[AraBrokenDreamer]

Originally Posted by Twilight_Roxas

Good point well their hasn't been any Disney Villains from Pixar in Fantasmic.

Well, Neither have gotten updates for Pixar (I think there's a reason for that, personally), but also consider that our villains from Pixar are as follows:

Zurg/Sid, Toy Story and Toy Story 2
Hopper, from Bug's Life
Waternoose/Randall, from Monsters, Inc.
Uh... there wasn't one in Nemo.
Chick Hicks from Cars, if you can really call him one.
Syndrome from Incredibles
Skinner, again, if you can call him much of a villain
AUTO from Wall-E
Muntz from UP

I'm not seeing any villains that really fit with the magical imagination of Fantasmic. Now, going back to Disney, here are all the villains back to 1997 ('97 was the year of Hercules, and Hades took over some of Chernabog's action in the Florida cut of Fantasmic):

2009: Facilier, Princess and the Frog
2008: Dr. Calico, Bolt
2003: Sitka, Brother Bear
2002: Silver, Treasure Planet
2002: Gantu, Lilo and Stitch
2001: Rourke, Atlantis
2000: Yzma, Emperor's New Groove **
1999: Clayton/Sabor, Tarzan
1998: Shan Yu, Mulan
1997: Hades, Hercules

**Yzma has potential because she has a song that was released with the soundtrack but not with the film. However, her voice actress died last year.

Above the above list... my favorites are Facilier, he's fresh and deserves for time in the park, Yzma, though we'd have to find new voice talent, and Calico, because despite being a digital film it's the villain you could work the most with, between lasers and fire and other such techno-weaponry.

Your villain is your choice, but remember the rule of one (One solo, one villain, esp. since some of these movies have more than one or have sidekicks). Choose carefully.

-Ara

[Disneyland_DHI]

Originally Posted by AraBrokenDreamer

Well, Neither have gotten updates for Pixar (I think there's a reason for that, personally), but also consider that our villains from Pixar are as follows:

Zurg/Sid, Toy Story and Toy Story 2
Hopper, from Bug's Life
Waternoose/Randall, from Monsters, Inc.
Uh... there wasn't one in Nemo.
Chick Hicks from Cars, if you can really call him one.
Syndrome from Incredibles
Skinner, again, if you can call him much of a villain
AUTO from Wall-E
Muntz from UP

I'm not seeing any villains that really fit with the magical imagination of Fantasmic. Now, going back to Disney, here are all the villains back to 1997 ('97 was the year of Hercules, and Hades took over some of Chernabog's action in the Florida cut of Fantasmic):

2009: Facilier, Princess and the Frog
2008: Dr. Calico, Bolt
2003: Sitka, Brother Bear
2002: Silver, Treasure Planet
2002: Gantu, Lilo and Stitch
2001: Rourke, Atlantis
2000: Yzma, Emperor's New Groove **
1999: Clayton/Sabor, Tarzan
1998: Shan Yu, Mulan
1997: Hades, Hercules

**Yzma has potential because she has a song that was released with the soundtrack but not with the film. However, her voice actress died last year.

Above the above list... my favorites are Facilier, he's fresh and deserves for time in the park, Yzma, though we'd have to find new voice talent, and Calico, because despite being a digital film it's the villain you could work the most with, between lasers and fire and other such techno-weaponry.

Your villain is your choice, but remember the rule of one (One solo, one villain, esp. since some of these movies have more than one or have sidekicks). Choose carefully.

-Ara

forgive my intrusion, but Facilier would be really great! he could predict how the rest of Mickey's dream could go or something. If Syndrome gets in the show, maybe he could taunt the audience then shoot lasers or something...

Is Mulan in the show for sure? I was thinking we could have a Buzz VS. Zurg thing with all sorts of crazy pyro and lasers and all sorts of stuff in place of a battle where a ship introduces it, with the aliens making appearances.

[AraBrokenDreamer]

Originally Posted by Disneyland_DHI

forgive my intrusion, but Facilier would be really great! he could predict how the rest of Mickey's dream could go or something. If Syndrome gets in the show, maybe he could taunt the audience then shoot lasers or something...

Is Mulan in the show for sure? I was thinking we could have a Buzz VS. Zurg thing with all sorts of crazy pyro and lasers and all sorts of stuff in place of a battle where a ship introduces it, with the aliens making appearances.

I agree on Facilier, that would be stellar (I'm not sure about the predicting the future bit, but there's plenty he could do)

The rest of it... eh... I'm starting to think Mickey's getting on a Tomorrowland futuristic kick, which is fine, but we'd want a venue to match it and that venue is not the Rivers of America (or whatever it's called at Paris). The setting also gives Facilier more reason to be there: He fits in (even if it's not NOS at DLR). And what would they be fighting on? Their ships all crash-landed in the river and they're still fighiting, and they wouldn't be using their jet-packs to fly? If this was akin to the elevator fight from TS2 where they're toys using toy weapons to fight, then that might be okay.