So It Is A Curse Of The Black Pearl

Mousekiteer · 08-31-2005, 07:00 PM

Don't know if any of you have actually read Mice Age these past two days. I must say I am left a little uncertain of what I just read.

"A new Johnny Depp animatronic will show up in several of the ride's most iconic scenes, even adding dialogue to the dunking of the mayor. A Barbarosa figure will also be added, and his morphing skeleton effect is said to be quite impressive. Many props from the movie will be added to the ride's sets, there will be newly digitized audio tracks and some modern upgrades to the circa-1967 special effects."

After this, I flinched. I mean, I have heard that they're putting Cap'n Jack in WDW's Pirates and also possibly in Phase II of Hong Kong Disneyland. But... why Anaheim?

Now, don't get me wrong. I adore Depp. Rush is the man. Yet in a way I feel that our Pirates, the first, the classic, the original and the last thing Uncle Walt was working on is being tainted with pop culture references. It reminds me of how the Tiki Room has been picked at with each reincarnation. Plus, I guess the general audience still doesn't get the movie was inspried by the ride.

Even though Pirates isn't particularly a huge favorite of mine, I still feel a little peeved. What about you?

krnsngr85 · 08-31-2005, 07:15 PM

I hope they fix that politcally correct scene, man people just won't stop complaining.

DisneyResurrection · 08-31-2005, 08:12 PM

No JD in POTC.

SplashMountain · 08-31-2005, 09:15 PM

I love the ride and I love the movie, but I do NOT want them to combine the two!!!

disneylover · 08-31-2005, 09:41 PM

I agree! No JD in POTC!!!! If they do this, I will be crushed, and complain to city hall a lot!

Legend_S · 08-31-2005, 09:43 PM

It sounds really stupid, I want it to remain the same because its the original for crying out loud, why do they find ways to kill classics for us?

**Disneyland_Wolf** · 08-31-2005, 10:18 PM

Stupid Eisner!! It was his idea yet again. He said that, he will add Capn' Sparrow in POTC. He always kill the classics, that attraction came out before the movie, 1960's. Let's make a "No Captain Jack Sparrow animatronic petition". We all Disneyland fans and POTC fans must make it and sign it.

Mousekiteer · 08-31-2005, 10:22 PM

^I don't think Eisner's behind it. Probably just some really uninspired imagineers.
Might I remind that the guy did some good stuff during the rebirth of Disney.

Piglet · 08-31-2005, 10:29 PM

Can we take this as fact then, if it was reported on MiceAge? I will be very sad if they add a Johnny Depp pirate in the new POTC refurb. I don't think this ride needs it--it is great the way it is. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

arrowfanman · 08-31-2005, 10:31 PM

Well, you see, they arent scrapping the old dialouge or anything. They are integrating what he says into the classical conversations you always hear. . . .I think.

Basically, the ride is almost 40 years old. Face it, its getting old.
I think that it is updates like this that will allow the attraction to survive for another 40 years.

linklewtt · 08-31-2005, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krnsngr85

I hope they fix that politcally correct scene, man people just won't stop complaining.

what scene do you mean?

emman · 08-31-2005, 11:48 PM

i think it would be good seing sparrow at the end of the ride or just before the warning skeleton,but integrate him to the original, that would be disrupting 40 years of walt's imagination, ok i admit it is getting a little old, but it has survived all this years for one reason, its originallity, it sparrow appears in the middle of anything, it wouldnt be the same

PeoplemoverMatt · 08-31-2005, 11:54 PM

This has me both infuriated & a bit excited at the same time, which is an interesting feeling.

It may shock you to read that but don't worry, I HATE the idea of more movie stuff coming into a Disneyland ride. Is anyone else thinking of Tiki Room Under New Management here? This is what happens when movie characters are needlessly installed into a classic, beloved attraction. So a giant thumbs down to whoever thought this is a good idea. Don't tell me it will infuse new life into an aging attraction. It might for about a week, but it will be short-term at best, and a classic will die to become yet another movie-based attraction. I'm thinking about a hunger strike to preserve attraction originality. Ok maybe not, but honestly, this is getting absurd.

Now as for the exiciting part: Pirates is getting a refurb! Holy monkey does that ride ever stack like mad! It feels as if you wait just as long to get off the ride as you do to get on the ride. I'm optimistic that a good long refurb will fix this because stacking like this isn't supposed to happen.

That's about the only positive I see in this. They may as well rename the bloody place Walt Disney Studios Hollywood & in FL, Walt Disney Studios Florida.

-- Peoplemover "Peoplemover's going to be based on a movie & that's going to suck too" Matt

simba_one · 09-01-2005, 05:32 AM

I wouldn't like to see this happen but it would be nice to see something new in there. I'd rather they leave the Anaheim version as it is and just add JD to the Orlando version but hey, if they're set on something. And I kinda agree with arrowfanman - it is getting slightly old so why not just update it slightly?! It'll still and will always be Pirates...

DeadMenTellNoTales · 09-01-2005, 10:47 AM

"Update it slightly," are you joking me! Adding JD to one of the most beloved and original rides in the world is not a slight update but a major change and disappointment. This is what I was worried about when they made the movie, and now one of my worst fears could be coming true. This chage only opens the door to future changes to the ride. What if the next two movies do just as good or even better then the first? What then, more JD animatronic figures placed all over the ride? Or perhaps they would add scenes from the other movies and completly change the ride that was the last ride that Walt was able to work on. Either way this up and coming refurb is a major watershed moment for Oimet and his regime. It could even turn out to be worse than the 1997 refurb that tried to make Pirates more PC. And the timing of this could not have been any worse. Right in the middle of the 50th when everybody is talking about Walt's dream for his park. I'm sure that if Walt was here today he would never allow anything like this to happen.

08-31-2005, 07:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mousekiteer People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 113	So It Is A Curse Of The Black Pearl Don't know if any of you have actually read Mice Age these past two days. I must say I am left a little uncertain of what I just read. "A new Johnny Depp animatronic will show up in several of the ride's most iconic scenes, even adding dialogue to the dunking of the mayor. A Barbarosa figure will also be added, and his morphing skeleton effect is said to be quite impressive. Many props from the movie will be added to the ride's sets, there will be newly digitized audio tracks and some modern upgrades to the circa-1967 special effects." After this, I flinched. I mean, I have heard that they're putting Cap'n Jack in WDW's Pirates and also possibly in Phase II of Hong Kong Disneyland. But... why Anaheim? Now, don't get me wrong. I adore Depp. Rush is the man. Yet in a way I feel that our Pirates, the first, the classic, the original and the last thing Uncle Walt was working on is being tainted with pop culture references. It reminds me of how the Tiki Room has been picked at with each reincarnation. Plus, I guess the general audience still doesn't get the movie was inspried by the ride. Even though Pirates isn't particularly a huge favorite of mine, I still feel a little peeved. What about you? __________________ :O
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08-31-2005, 07:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
krnsngr85 People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Reseda, CA Posts: 201	I hope they fix that politcally correct scene, man people just won't stop complaining.
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DisneyResurrection People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 197	No JD in POTC. __________________ "...this whole thing was started with a dream and a mouse." - Walt Disney
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SplashMountain Captain Obvious People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 225	I love the ride and I love the movie, but I do NOT want them to combine the two!!!
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disneylover People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Martinez, CA (Bay Area) Posts: 600 Images: 9	I agree! No JD in POTC!!!! If they do this, I will be crushed, and complain to city hall a lot! __________________ Here you leave today and enter the world of Yesterday, Tomorrow, and Fantasy. I was there July 17, 2005. My Countdown Counting down to: Taking my son to Disneyland for the first time!
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Legend_S People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Santa Ana, California Posts: 202	It sounds really stupid, I want it to remain the same because its the original for crying out loud, why do they find ways to kill classics for us? __________________ *For Walt Disney "He was a Storyteller,* *a Showman, a Dreamer - a Genius." - Leonard Maltin* "A man should never neglect his family for business." - Walt Disney
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08-31-2005, 10:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Disneyland_Wolf Banned People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 722	Stupid Eisner!! It was his idea yet again. He said that, he will add Capn' Sparrow in POTC. He always kill the classics, that attraction came out before the movie, 1960's. Let's make a "No Captain Jack Sparrow animatronic petition". We all Disneyland fans and POTC fans must make it and sign it.
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08-31-2005, 10:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mousekiteer People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 113	^I don't think Eisner's behind it. Probably just some really uninspired imagineers. Might I remind that the guy did some good stuff during the rebirth of Disney. __________________ :O
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Piglet People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 1,422 Images: 8	Can we take this as fact then, if it was reported on MiceAge? I will be very sad if they add a Johnny Depp pirate in the new POTC refurb. I don't think this ride needs it--it is great the way it is. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." __________________ <-- My kids with Piglet at Disneyland, taken 6/05. A big thank-you to Kit Cloudkicker for the awesome sig he designed for me!!
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arrowfanman People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saugus, CA Posts: 41	Well, you see, they arent scrapping the old dialouge or anything. They are integrating what he says into the classical conversations you always hear. . . .I think. Basically, the ride is almost 40 years old. Face it, its getting old. I think that it is updates like this that will allow the attraction to survive for another 40 years. __________________
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emman People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mexico Posts: 170 Images: 1	i think it would be good seing sparrow at the end of the ride or just before the warning skeleton,but integrate him to the original, that would be disrupting 40 years of walt's imagination, ok i admit it is getting a little old, but it has survived all this years for one reason, its originallity, it sparrow appears in the middle of anything, it wouldnt be the same
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08-31-2005, 11:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
PeoplemoverMatt An Objective Perspective People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 4,745 Images: 18	This has me both infuriated & a bit excited at the same time, which is an interesting feeling. It may shock you to read that but don't worry, I HATE the idea of more movie stuff coming into a Disneyland ride. Is anyone else thinking of Tiki Room Under New Management here? This is what happens when movie characters are needlessly installed into a classic, beloved attraction. So a giant thumbs down to whoever thought this is a good idea. Don't tell me it will infuse new life into an aging attraction. It might for about a week, but it will be short-term at best, and a classic will die to become yet another movie-based attraction. I'm thinking about a hunger strike to preserve attraction originality. Ok maybe not, but honestly, this is getting absurd. Now as for the exiciting part: Pirates is getting a refurb! Holy monkey does that ride ever stack like mad! It feels as if you wait just as long to get off the ride as you do to get on the ride. I'm optimistic that a good long refurb will fix this because stacking like this isn't supposed to happen. That's about the only positive I see in this. They may as well rename the bloody place Walt Disney Studios Hollywood & in FL, Walt Disney Studios Florida. -- Peoplemover "Peoplemover's going to be based on a movie & that's going to suck too" Matt __________________ "I don't believe in taking foolish chances, but nothing can be accomplished without taking any chance at all." -- Charles Augustus Lindberg "Our greatest natural resource is the minds of our children." -- Walter Elias Disney "So are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him...so we too might walk in the newness of life." -- Romans 6:1-4
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09-01-2005, 05:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
simba_one People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London, England... too far away from the Magic for my liking!! ;( Posts: 91	I wouldn't like to see this happen but it would be nice to see something new in there. I'd rather they leave the Anaheim version as it is and just add JD to the Orlando version but hey, if they're set on something. And I kinda agree with arrowfanman - it is getting slightly old so why not just update it slightly?! It'll still and will always be Pirates...
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09-01-2005, 10:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
DeadMenTellNoTales People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 10	"Update it slightly," are you joking me! Adding JD to one of the most beloved and original rides in the world is not a slight update but a major change and disappointment. This is what I was worried about when they made the movie, and now one of my worst fears could be coming true. This chage only opens the door to future changes to the ride. What if the next two movies do just as good or even better then the first? What then, more JD animatronic figures placed all over the ride? Or perhaps they would add scenes from the other movies and completly change the ride that was the last ride that Walt was able to work on. Either way this up and coming refurb is a major watershed moment for Oimet and his regime. It could even turn out to be worse than the 1997 refurb that tried to make Pirates more PC. And the timing of this could not have been any worse. Right in the middle of the 50th when everybody is talking about Walt's dream for his park. I'm sure that if Walt was here today he would never allow anything like this to happen.
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