Disney Universe........Revisited...

emman · 10-18-2008, 07:40 PM

So I heard from someone at work (dont know where he heard it from), this very weird rumor, that Walt was frustrated with how Disneyland came out, he wanted something bigger, then he bought land in Florida, but no, he wanted bigger, and he had plans for this destination, as big as Rhode Island, but had no funding, and no land to build it. U may know there is a Time Capsule under Sleeping Beauty Castle, well, they say that the blueprints for this HUGE project are inside the capsule, and they are supposed to be unraveled by imagineers in the 100th birthday of Disneyland, and start on the project right away!! Dunno if this is true, dunno what the project is about. Have u heard something else? Could this be related to the rumor of Disney buying a huge lot between Texas and Oaklahoma? Comment!!

:mickey :

Alex_Toto_Disneyland · 10-18-2008, 07:51 PM

Didn't knew about this... But the time capsule is going to be open on July 17, 2035.. that's Disneyland 80th!
-Alex

Wedbliss · 10-18-2008, 08:25 PM

The time capsule at Disneyland is buried in front of Sleeping Beauty Castle, not under it. It was buried on Disneyland's 40th birthday and is scheduled to be opened on Disneyland's 80th birthday in 2035. That is (obviously) 20 years before the 100th birthday.

It is pretty well known what is in the capsule. You can find lists on various websites. None of them mention blue prints of future projects. I would consider this just another of the many urban myths about Disney.

(You mentioned Oklahoma in your post. There is a town in OK named Disney. Disney, OK is named after W.E. Disney, but it's not Walt. The town was named for Wesley E. Disney, an Oklahoma congressman elected in 1930.)

Rumors about a Disney theme park venture of some sort in Texas have been floating around for a long time. I wouldn't take a rumor like that very seriously.

kmb728 · 10-18-2008, 11:24 PM

Hey Wedbliss, whats in the time capsule?

Wedbliss · 10-19-2008, 12:26 AM

According to the Oglethorpe University Web Site, the time capsule contains 62 items. They include:

-Photos of early Disneyland

-An aerial photo of Disneyland from 1995

-Numerous items of 1995 logo-themed merchandise sold at the park

- Several scrolls of thoughts and quotes signed by Disney executives including Eisner, Marty Sklar and Roy E. Disney

-Photos and information regarding IJA and it's dedication in 1995

-A 1995 Disneyland Press Kit

-A Copy of Disney Magazine from that time

-A "40 Years of Adventure" Cast Member name tag with the name "Mickey"

-A group Cast Member photo taken on Main Street the morning before the capsule was buried. Nearly every CM there that day was in the photo.

-Blue prints for a top secret, Rhode Island-sized Disney Universe project somewhere in middle America (my sincere apologies, I couldn't resist that one.)

Evidently, the items along with the capsule were on display in the Opera House for awhile before they were buried. The items to be preserved were never kept a secret. And just so no one misunderstands, I made up the bit abut the blue prints...

The capsule, which Disney calls a Time Castle, was shaped like Sleeping Beauty's Castle with the top on hinges so it could open and items placed inside.

A couple of accounts say that the Time Castle was used in the ceremony on 7/17/95 but that after the park closed, the items were transfered into a hazmat type plastic barrel that was actually buried. I guess the truth of that will be discovered on 7/17/2035.

alyx92 · 10-19-2008, 07:36 AM

kool.....there were plans for a park called, "Disney's America" or something like that, to be placed in Virgina. Also, Westcot, derived from Epcot, was also supposed to be made somewhere out west. Both ideas were not put into place.

Executioner · 10-19-2008, 09:20 AM

Westcot was supposed to be made here at Disneyland but got scrapped and now we got DCA and DTD.

austen · 10-19-2008, 01:06 PM

I nvr knew about this time capsule! that is amazing!

emman · 10-19-2008, 10:52 PM

The capsule I am talking about is obvioulsy something more secretive, it is not the one in front of the castle, but really below it, placed there in the late 60's after Walt's death. I know this is bizarre, but, woulnt it be cool?? btw wedbliss, that was a hit below the belt (lol)

tomserwin · 10-19-2008, 10:57 PM

In theroy, there was supposed to be some concept drawings for a considerably more massive Disney park than WDW, a small city or something like that (I'm not too sure what). However, if those rumored drawings were real, they were likely just fanciful ideas from the art department and not any serious venture on Disney's part.

Wedbliss · 10-19-2008, 10:57 PM

I do apologize to you emman. Sometimes my sense of humor gets me in trouble. I mean no disrepect to you at all.

I still do find it hard to believe such a rumor. I would like to point out that I like to hear rumors like this, even if I don't believe in them. Thanks for starting this thread.

#1DisneyFreak · 10-20-2008, 02:38 PM

wouldn't that be cool...... the 51st state... Disneyland. haha! If they're going to make it big, make it BIG! :) can you imagine trying to trapse around something the size of Rhode Island?! AGH!

emman · 10-20-2008, 07:24 PM

Well, WDW has 20+ hotels, 4 theme parks, 2 water parks, Downtown Disney, etc, etc, How many theme parks do u think could actually fit in here?

WDITrent · 10-27-2008, 07:58 PM

^As many as they wanted.

10-18-2008, 07:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
emman People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mexico Posts: 170 Images: 1	Disney Universe........Revisited... So I heard from someone at work (dont know where he heard it from), this very weird rumor, that Walt was frustrated with how Disneyland came out, he wanted something bigger, then he bought land in Florida, but no, he wanted bigger, and he had plans for this destination, as big as Rhode Island, but had no funding, and no land to build it. U may know there is a Time Capsule under Sleeping Beauty Castle, well, they say that the blueprints for this HUGE project are inside the capsule, and they are supposed to be unraveled by imagineers in the 100th birthday of Disneyland, and start on the project right away!! Dunno if this is true, dunno what the project is about. Have u heard something else? Could this be related to the rumor of Disney buying a huge lot between Texas and Oaklahoma? Comment!!:mickey : __________________ [COLOR="blue"][/FONT] FUTURE IMAGINEER, 2 TIME SEMIFINALIST IN THE IMAGINATIONS WDI COMPETITION, AND FUTURE FINALIST, HERE WE GOOO
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10-18-2008, 07:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Alex_Toto_Disneyland Also Known as AlexValve People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: El Cajon, CA Posts: 758 Images: 1	Didn't knew about this... But the time capsule is going to be open on July 17, 2035.. that's Disneyland 80th! -Alex __________________ What Will You Celebrate? AlexValve On Youtube \| AlexValve On Myspace \|AlexValve Via MSN
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10-18-2008, 08:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wedbliss People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 799	The time capsule at Disneyland is buried in front of Sleeping Beauty Castle, not under it. It was buried on Disneyland's 40th birthday and is scheduled to be opened on Disneyland's 80th birthday in 2035. That is (obviously) 20 years before the 100th birthday. It is pretty well known what is in the capsule. You can find lists on various websites. None of them mention blue prints of future projects. I would consider this just another of the many urban myths about Disney. (You mentioned Oklahoma in your post. There is a town in OK named Disney. Disney, OK is named after W.E. Disney, but it's not Walt. The town was named for Wesley E. Disney, an Oklahoma congressman elected in 1930.) Rumors about a Disney theme park venture of some sort in Texas have been floating around for a long time. I wouldn't take a rumor like that very seriously. __________________ My Countdown Counting down to: Holiday Trip to Walt Disney World 21 days 10 hours 9 minutes
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10-18-2008, 11:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
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10-19-2008, 12:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
Wedbliss People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 799	According to the Oglethorpe University Web Site, the time capsule contains 62 items. They include: -Photos of early Disneyland -An aerial photo of Disneyland from 1995 -Numerous items of 1995 logo-themed merchandise sold at the park - Several scrolls of thoughts and quotes signed by Disney executives including Eisner, Marty Sklar and Roy E. Disney -Photos and information regarding IJA and it's dedication in 1995 -A 1995 Disneyland Press Kit -A Copy of Disney Magazine from that time -A "40 Years of Adventure" Cast Member name tag with the name "Mickey" -A group Cast Member photo taken on Main Street the morning before the capsule was buried. Nearly every CM there that day was in the photo. -Blue prints for a top secret, Rhode Island-sized Disney Universe project somewhere in middle America (my sincere apologies, I couldn't resist that one.) Evidently, the items along with the capsule were on display in the Opera House for awhile before they were buried. The items to be preserved were never kept a secret. And just so no one misunderstands, I made up the bit abut the blue prints... The capsule, which Disney calls a Time Castle, was shaped like Sleeping Beauty's Castle with the top on hinges so it could open and items placed inside. A couple of accounts say that the Time Castle was used in the ceremony on 7/17/95 but that after the park closed, the items were transfered into a hazmat type plastic barrel that was actually buried. I guess the truth of that will be discovered on 7/17/2035. __________________ My Countdown Counting down to: Holiday Trip to Walt Disney World 21 days 10 hours 9 minutes
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alyx92 People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 1,708 Images: 2	kool.....there were plans for a park called, "Disney's America" or something like that, to be placed in Virgina. Also, Westcot, derived from Epcot, was also supposed to be made somewhere out west. Both ideas were not put into place. __________________ Disney Count: Magic Kingdom-25 times : Disney's Hollywood Studios- 23 times : Epcot- 24 times : Disney's Animal Kingdom- 14 times Blizzard Beach- 1 time : Typhoon Lagoon- 1 time California, Paris, & Tokyo- 0 times TIMES ON SPLASH MTN - 30 : TIMES ON ToT - 29 : TIMES PotC - 32 TIMES on Test Track - 15 "If you can dream it, you can do it. Always remember that this whole thing was started with a dream, and a mouse." - Walt Disney Follow me on Twitter Here My Countdown Counting down to: My first Walt Disney World Half-Marathon! 49 days 20 hours 9 minutes
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10-19-2008, 09:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Executioner The name says it all People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Between this world and the next. Posts: 2,196 Images: 70	Westcot was supposed to be made here at Disneyland but got scrapped and now we got DCA and DTD. __________________ A Different Kind Of Company A Different Kind Of Executioner
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10-19-2008, 10:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
emman People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mexico Posts: 170 Images: 1	The capsule I am talking about is obvioulsy something more secretive, it is not the one in front of the castle, but really below it, placed there in the late 60's after Walt's death. I know this is bizarre, but, woulnt it be cool?? btw wedbliss, that was a hit below the belt (lol) __________________ [COLOR="blue"][/FONT] FUTURE IMAGINEER, 2 TIME SEMIFINALIST IN THE IMAGINATIONS WDI COMPETITION, AND FUTURE FINALIST, HERE WE GOOO
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10-19-2008, 10:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
tomserwin People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greegoil-Zbokk, Sector Two. Posts: 1,848 Images: 8	In theroy, there was supposed to be some concept drawings for a considerably more massive Disney park than WDW, a small city or something like that (I'm not too sure what). However, if those rumored drawings were real, they were likely just fanciful ideas from the art department and not any serious venture on Disney's part. __________________ *It's not very far from Sulphur to Sugarcane.* My Countdown Counting down to: Next trip to Disneyland. At Disenyland, making full benefit of my Annual Pass.
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10-19-2008, 10:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Wedbliss People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 799	I do apologize to you emman. Sometimes my sense of humor gets me in trouble. I mean no disrepect to you at all. I still do find it hard to believe such a rumor. I would like to point out that I like to hear rumors like this, even if I don't believe in them. Thanks for starting this thread. __________________ My Countdown Counting down to: Holiday Trip to Walt Disney World 21 days 10 hours 9 minutes
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10-20-2008, 02:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
#1DisneyFreak People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orem, UT Posts: 1,486 Images: 5	wouldn't that be cool...... the 51st state... Disneyland. haha! If they're going to make it big, make it BIG! :) can you imagine trying to trapse around something the size of Rhode Island?! AGH! __________________ " is the star, everything else is in the supporting role." - Walt Disney Trivia: In the movie "Cars", the tow truck introduces himself as "Mater, like Ta-Mater without the Ta". However, in French, the joke did not translate so he introduced himself as "Martin, like Aston Martin without the Aston" Come join us! (You must be 18 years of age or older) My Countdown Counting down to: VF's 4th annual scavenger hunt (and the D23 convention!) Ask me how we did!
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10-20-2008, 07:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
emman People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mexico Posts: 170 Images: 1	Well, WDW has 20+ hotels, 4 theme parks, 2 water parks, Downtown Disney, etc, etc, How many theme parks do u think could actually fit in here? __________________ [COLOR="blue"][/FONT] FUTURE IMAGINEER, 2 TIME SEMIFINALIST IN THE IMAGINATIONS WDI COMPETITION, AND FUTURE FINALIST, HERE WE GOOO
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10-27-2008, 07:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
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