Problem with player?

gothemi · 10-13-2008, 02:17 PM

Has anybody else had a problem with playback while listening in? I have this issue that occurs everytime a new song starts up. The song will go in fast forward or something. It will just start skipping ahead, even though the "time" shown doesn't advance. I usually have to close the player and re-open it, but even that doesn't work, or sometimes it just happens again after the player opens. I listen to VF Radio using Quicktime both at work (shhh!) and at home. My home PC has the latest version...I am not sure about my work PC. Any suggestions as to what I can fix. The problem is the same at home and work.

Thanks,

AraBrokenDreamer · 10-13-2008, 08:30 PM

Yeah, that's happening to me, too, now! iTunes 8 on my newly wiped computer.

-Ara

Caligirl1921 · 10-14-2008, 06:34 PM

me too sometimes it wont play for me at all

alyx92 · 10-14-2008, 07:21 PM

same problem here. what i do (on iTunes) is create a playlist that has 5 or 6 vf radios in it. Then put it on repeat mode. That way, when it advances to the next song, it advances onto another VF radio. then when it gets to the last one, the playlist starts over. However it yould be nice not to have the problem tho......
-Hope that helps!!!!!!!

CA Screamin Dude · 10-14-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyx92

same problem here. what i do (on iTunes) is create a playlist that has 5 or 6 vf radios in it. Then put it on repeat mode. That way, when it advances to the next song, it advances onto another VF radio. then when it gets to the last one, the playlist starts over. However it yould be nice not to have the problem tho......
-Hope that helps!!!!!!!

That seems to be the remedy... Unfortunately, the server at times underruns on the buffer. You can try to increase your buffer size, as well as the VF Radio Playlist technique mentioned. We're going to look into it and see what other fixes we can find.

gothemi · 10-15-2008, 09:36 AM

I just noticed that Winamp is suggested. Should I download Winamp or is the problem likely to occur with it as well?

Chris · 10-16-2008, 10:57 PM

Winamp is desireable because you can have that be your default player for PLS (playlist) files and keep your existing associations (CDs, MP3, MOV) with your current player (Windows Media, Quicktime, etc). Personally I enjoy Winamp over the others because it loads quicker.

Neo · 10-17-2008, 01:42 AM

What is everyones player? And how long are you usually connected before this happens?

alyx92 · 10-17-2008, 04:43 AM

iTunes
Sometimes an hour, sometimes 5 minutes. However, it always changes after the end of a song. Then the new song is displayed in the "now playing" box, but the song below it in my iTunes is actually playing.

AraBrokenDreamer · 10-17-2008, 05:35 AM

^Ditto what he said, but mine consistently switches to the next track after the first song.

-Ara

Jeff W · 10-18-2008, 11:05 AM

I've had some of the same problems everyone else is talking about, but I use Winamp. So it's not just isolated to iTunes or to to Quicktime. I will either get a speed up or a slow down as well.

CA Screamin Dude · 11-16-2008, 02:28 PM

We have found the issue.

Apparently, there are a wide variety of bitrates and sample rates the titles in our library are encoded in. Specifically, the issue is caused by the variation in sample rates. Most players (winamp/itunes/quicktime/wmedia) simply do not know how to handle changes in playlist sample rates. As a result, the stream stops and the song skips.

I will be going through the database and will attempt to normalize the sampling rate: Most are currently sampled at 44100 Hz, or 44.1 kHz, so eventually, all mp3s in the library should be at this sample rate. As you can imagine, with 1865 titles (and counting) in our database, this is an exhaustive task, when you take into account the 'download-edit-upload' process for each one; at present, we do not have a timetable in completely fixing the issue.

Disneysea_fan · 11-23-2008, 11:48 AM

Same things happening to me when using the quick time player.

CA Screamin Dude · 01-26-2009, 05:23 PM

We are still going through the process of converting our library to 44.1 rates. Still, we recommend you listen to VF Radio in a repeating playlist so it automatically rebuffers when two tracks with different sampling rates happen to play, back to back.

Personally, I use iTunes (which runs similarly to Winamp in playing the PLS stream), with Playlist "VF Streams" containing 5 entries, all of which are http://visionsfantastic.com:8000/listen.pls, set to "repeat playlist"

CA Screamin Dude · 11-01-2009, 01:36 PM

Add another variable to the speed up/slow down issue: The sudden change from a title which is mono to one which is stereo produces the "slow down" effect, while a switch from stereo to mono produces a "speed up" effect. We'll work on converting the affected files.

10-13-2008, 02:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
gothemi People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: No. California Posts: 3	Problem with player? Has anybody else had a problem with playback while listening in? I have this issue that occurs everytime a new song starts up. The song will go in fast forward or something. It will just start skipping ahead, even though the "time" shown doesn't advance. I usually have to close the player and re-open it, but even that doesn't work, or sometimes it just happens again after the player opens. I listen to VF Radio using Quicktime both at work (shhh!) and at home. My home PC has the latest version...I am not sure about my work PC. Any suggestions as to what I can fix. The problem is the same at home and work. Thanks, __________________ Yeah, it does... Last edited by CA Screamin Dude; 12-25-2008 at 05:52 PM.
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10-13-2008, 08:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
AraBrokenDreamer People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sanctuary of Dreams Posts: 1,381 Images: 3	Yeah, that's happening to me, too, now! iTunes 8 on my newly wiped computer. -Ara __________________ Scripts are the soil of a film. The story is the seed, the actors are the water, and the crew are the sunlight, giving it the chance to bloom into a brilliant flower. "I have no use for people who throw their weight around as celebrities, or for those who fawn over you just because you are famous. " -Walt Disney
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10-14-2008, 06:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
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10-14-2008, 07:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
alyx92 People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 1,708 Images: 2	same problem here. what i do (on iTunes) is create a playlist that has 5 or 6 vf radios in it. Then put it on repeat mode. That way, when it advances to the next song, it advances onto another VF radio. then when it gets to the last one, the playlist starts over. However it yould be nice not to have the problem tho...... -Hope that helps!!!!!!! __________________ Disney Count: Magic Kingdom-25 times : Disney's Hollywood Studios- 23 times : Epcot- 24 times : Disney's Animal Kingdom- 14 times Blizzard Beach- 1 time : Typhoon Lagoon- 1 time California, Paris, & Tokyo- 0 times TIMES ON SPLASH MTN - 30 : TIMES ON ToT - 29 : TIMES PotC - 32 TIMES on Test Track - 15 "If you can dream it, you can do it. Always remember that this whole thing was started with a dream, and a mouse." - Walt Disney Follow me on Twitter Here My Countdown Counting down to: My first Walt Disney World Half-Marathon! 49 days 15 hours 49 minutes
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10-15-2008, 09:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
gothemi People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: No. California Posts: 3	I just noticed that Winamp is suggested. Should I download Winamp or is the problem likely to occur with it as well? __________________ Yeah, it does...
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10-16-2008, 10:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chris Official Site Founder People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central California Posts: 3,884 Images: 11	Winamp is desireable because you can have that be your default player for PLS (playlist) files and keep your existing associations (CDs, MP3, MOV) with your current player (Windows Media, Quicktime, etc). Personally I enjoy Winamp over the others because it loads quicker. __________________ Chris Lang Site Admin and Founder of VF My Countdown Counting down to: Countdown to VF Scavenger Hunt 5! 293 days 16 hours 49 minutes
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10-17-2008, 01:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Neo VF's LoudMouth Administrator People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,543 Images: 112	What is everyones player? And how long are you usually connected before this happens?
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10-17-2008, 04:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
alyx92 People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 1,708 Images: 2	iTunes Sometimes an hour, sometimes 5 minutes. However, it always changes after the end of a song. Then the new song is displayed in the "now playing" box, but the song below it in my iTunes is actually playing. __________________ Disney Count: Magic Kingdom-25 times : Disney's Hollywood Studios- 23 times : Epcot- 24 times : Disney's Animal Kingdom- 14 times Blizzard Beach- 1 time : Typhoon Lagoon- 1 time California, Paris, & Tokyo- 0 times TIMES ON SPLASH MTN - 30 : TIMES ON ToT - 29 : TIMES PotC - 32 TIMES on Test Track - 15 "If you can dream it, you can do it. Always remember that this whole thing was started with a dream, and a mouse." - Walt Disney Follow me on Twitter Here My Countdown Counting down to: My first Walt Disney World Half-Marathon! 49 days 15 hours 49 minutes
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10-17-2008, 05:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
AraBrokenDreamer People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sanctuary of Dreams Posts: 1,381 Images: 3	^Ditto what he said, but mine consistently switches to the next track after the first song. -Ara __________________ Scripts are the soil of a film. The story is the seed, the actors are the water, and the crew are the sunlight, giving it the chance to bloom into a brilliant flower. "I have no use for people who throw their weight around as celebrities, or for those who fawn over you just because you are famous. " -Walt Disney
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10-18-2008, 11:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jeff W People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	I've had some of the same problems everyone else is talking about, but I use Winamp. So it's not just isolated to iTunes or to to Quicktime. I will either get a speed up or a slow down as well.
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11-16-2008, 02:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
CA Screamin Dude Screamin' Old School Administrator People who found this post helpful: Asteroids Champion! Snake Champion! Hexxagon Champion! Breakout Champion! Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Champion! Action Fish Champion! Ad-Break Toilet Dash Champion! 1-i Champion! 3D SuperBall Champion! Mumu Champion! Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 1,817	We have found the issue. Apparently, there are a wide variety of bitrates and sample rates the titles in our library are encoded in. Specifically, the issue is caused by the variation in sample rates. Most players (winamp/itunes/quicktime/wmedia) simply do not know how to handle changes in playlist sample rates. As a result, the stream stops and the song skips. I will be going through the database and will attempt to normalize the sampling rate: Most are currently sampled at 44100 Hz, or 44.1 kHz, so eventually, all mp3s in the library should be at this sample rate. As you can imagine, with 1865 titles (and counting) in our database, this is an exhaustive task, when you take into account the 'download-edit-upload' process for each one; at present, we do not have a timetable in completely fixing the issue. __________________ CA Screamin Dude Visions Fantastic Radio and Website Administrator VF Site Guidelines \| VF Guidelines for Junior Members \| Radio Request System Guidelines Click here to Send me a PM; - Online Safety - Podcast/Radio - Forums Listen to VF Radio using your internet browser
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11-23-2008, 11:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
Disneysea_fan People who found this post helpful: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 438	Same things happening to me when using the quick time player. __________________ BLAB highscore with no stops - 431,300 TSMM highscore - 182,000
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01-26-2009, 05:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
CA Screamin Dude Screamin' Old School Administrator People who found this post helpful: Asteroids Champion! Snake Champion! Hexxagon Champion! Breakout Champion! Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Champion! Action Fish Champion! Ad-Break Toilet Dash Champion! 1-i Champion! 3D SuperBall Champion! Mumu Champion! Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 1,817	We are still going through the process of converting our library to 44.1 rates. Still, we recommend you listen to VF Radio in a repeating playlist so it automatically rebuffers when two tracks with different sampling rates happen to play, back to back. Personally, I use iTunes (which runs similarly to Winamp in playing the PLS stream), with Playlist "VF Streams" containing 5 entries, all of which are http://visionsfantastic.com:8000/listen.pls, set to "repeat playlist" __________________ CA Screamin Dude Visions Fantastic Radio and Website Administrator VF Site Guidelines \| VF Guidelines for Junior Members \| Radio Request System Guidelines Click here to Send me a PM; - Online Safety - Podcast/Radio - Forums Listen to VF Radio using your internet browser
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CA Screamin Dude Screamin' Old School Administrator People who found this post helpful: Asteroids Champion! Snake Champion! Hexxagon Champion! Breakout Champion! Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Champion! Action Fish Champion! Ad-Break Toilet Dash Champion! 1-i Champion! 3D SuperBall Champion! Mumu Champion! Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 1,817	Add another variable to the speed up/slow down issue: The sudden change from a title which is mono to one which is stereo produces the "slow down" effect, while a switch from stereo to mono produces a "speed up" effect. We'll work on converting the affected files. __________________ CA Screamin Dude Visions Fantastic Radio and Website Administrator VF Site Guidelines \| VF Guidelines for Junior Members \| Radio Request System Guidelines Click here to Send me a PM; - Online Safety - Podcast/Radio - Forums Listen to VF Radio using your internet browser
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