Our Space Mountain... and then there's Hong Kong's

The Not-Lit Meteor · 01-17-2006, 09:26:06 PM

Before I say something, I want to say that our Space Mountain is still my favorite ride ever, and I'll try not to compare it to Hong Kong's but knowing me, that's what I'll probably end up doing. Anyways...

I've seen pictures and even a video with the lgiths on and off (of Space MOuntain in Hong Kong, and then I see videos of our Space Mountain, we have the same layouts, but I see differences. Hong Kong's Space Mountain has meteors scattered everywhere, they have stuff like meteor showers, effects on the 'big drop', etc. Why don't we have those? Is it because of budget? Or maybe because Hong Kong had a longer time to Imagineer all these things? IMHO, we should at least have some of what they have, after all, it is Disneyland Aneheim's 50th Birthday.

I don't know if there is a good factual reason why we don't have these, but it would be nice to see some ideas.

Once again, I tried my hardest not to compare, but to make a point. If I sounded like I was comparing the two, I didn't mean to. Although, it is easier to compare two Space Mountains (rather than Matterhorn and Expedition Everest, like I did in the past =] )

I also <3 our Space Mountain...

RollingBoulder · 01-17-2006, 09:34:20 PM

Yeah, I thought ours was supposed to be designed after Hong Kong's. Apparently not...

NCTJoe · 01-17-2006, 11:34:15 PM

Well keep in mind.... (yes I know its 99.99 confirmed) if Rockit Mountain should arise, we might see new effects that Hong Kong doesn't have. Also if the rumors turn out to be true... then we'll actually have two different attractions within the same ride... which by my math... makes ours two times more unique.

Robert Fuller · 01-18-2006, 12:42:44 AM

Well, they had to throw Hong Kong a bone. Their park has like five rides.

disneyguy · 01-18-2006, 07:19:05 AM

Think about it, Hong Kong's was origanally built after ours. Then ours was remodeled after Hong Kongs. So yes, If Disneyland was going tho get new meteor (Rocks) effects, then they would probly be in 'Rock'It Mountain.

dctrdez · 01-18-2006, 09:27:35 AM

You also have to realize that Anaheim's Space Mountain was designed and built in the late 70s, so there might be issues with the design and structure of the ride that prohibit any additions on the caliber of those at Hong Kong (or, any other Space Mountain for that matter).

kodiak · 01-18-2006, 09:36:26 AM

if you really want to get into it, space mountain in paris has a blast off launch instead of a drop and it has a loop.

disneyguy · 01-18-2006, 01:47:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kodiak

if you really want to get into it, space mountain in paris has a blast off launch instead of a drop and it has a loop.

The reason we are only comparing the Space Mountain in Disneyland and Hong Kong is because they are the same ride...(same ride track)... but different effects and stuff.

You need to also remember that the origanal Space Mountain for Disneyland (V1.0), was going to include other effects, but do to lack of bugget that got left out. Some of the origanal plans included projections, and a giant rotating tunnel up the big hill (Space Mountain v2.0 has a projection system of the giant rotating tunnel). The tunnel got left out of the origanal plans because it is very hard to get a very long object, suspended, rotating with cars going though it.

50yearsofmagic · 01-18-2006, 07:18:41 PM

I believe the main reason many special effects found in HK's SM were left out was because the DL SM refurb was supposed to last a lot longer than it did (with the ride re-opening in dec. 2005 as opposed to july) anyways..... Matt Ouimet put the SM refurb on the fast track so it could open for DL's 50th weekend..... thats just a possible suggestion... I know that the subs are also already WAY over budget so maybe that, and the new much needed enhancements in DCA, had something to do with the SM budget cuts. Anywho... here's to hoping we see some added features during the next refurb!

mrskellington · 01-23-2006, 09:11:05 PM

All I can say is Hopefully RockIt Mountain comes.......:)

arrowfanman · 01-23-2006, 09:17:08 PM

If you saw the lights-on portion of the HK space mountain video, you can see if you look carefully, that there are actually projecting screens set up throughout the ride, to create a surface to project all of that imagery on.

Well, I was always under the impression that Rockit Mountain wouldn't necessarily be as dark as Space Mountain, and that these flat white screens would potentially be visible.

Perhaps I am just searching for excuses.

-Jahan

mike646 · 01-24-2006, 09:25:17 PM

ok well i may be out of the loop a bit but what is this Rockit mountain that everyone is talking about?????????

PeoplemoverMatt · 01-24-2006, 09:27:11 PM

Look here for all RockIt Mountain information and discussion:
The Official Rockin' Space Mountain Discussion

-- PMM

mike646 · 01-24-2006, 11:32:01 PM

thanks for the link that explained alot but there is still some confusion

is this going to be a permanent thing or is it just for grad night

PeoplemoverMatt · 01-25-2006, 12:11:22 AM

Well, the most popular rumor about it you'll hear is that it's destined for running during the night-time daily. What exactly that means, how exactly it'll be done, how they're going to manage 2 attractions in 1 on a daily basis, no idea there.

-- PMM

01-17-2006, 09:26:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Not-Lit Meteor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canyon Lake, CA Posts: 36	Our Space Mountain... and then there's Hong Kong's Before I say something, I want to say that our Space Mountain is still my favorite ride ever, and I'll try not to compare it to Hong Kong's but knowing me, that's what I'll probably end up doing. Anyways... I've seen pictures and even a video with the lgiths on and off (of Space MOuntain in Hong Kong, and then I see videos of our Space Mountain, we have the same layouts, but I see differences. Hong Kong's Space Mountain has meteors scattered everywhere, they have stuff like meteor showers, effects on the 'big drop', etc. Why don't we have those? Is it because of budget? Or maybe because Hong Kong had a longer time to Imagineer all these things? IMHO, we should at least have some of what they have, after all, it is Disneyland Aneheim's 50th Birthday. I don't know if there is a good factual reason why we don't have these, but it would be nice to see some ideas. Once again, I tried my hardest not to compare, but to make a point. If I sounded like I was comparing the two, I didn't mean to. Although, it is easier to compare two Space Mountains (rather than Matterhorn and Expedition Everest, like I did in the past =] ) I also <3 our Space Mountain... __________________ Space Mountain-# of times launched-25 OH MY GOSH! THERE'S THE WITCH! ...and they lived happily ever after... Bring back Rocket Rods! Disneyland is YOUR land...

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01-17-2006, 11:34:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
NCTJoe Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 204	Well keep in mind.... (yes I know its 99.99 confirmed) if Rockit Mountain should arise, we might see new effects that Hong Kong doesn't have. Also if the rumors turn out to be true... then we'll actually have two different attractions within the same ride... which by my math... makes ours two times more unique. __________________ Can we all just get over ourselves and admit velcro was a good idea?

01-18-2006, 07:19:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
disneyguy The Merriest Disney Fan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 20 minutes from the Happiest Place On Earth! Posts: 830 Images: 83	Think about it, Hong Kong's was origanally built after ours. Then ours was remodeled after Hong Kongs. So yes, If Disneyland was going tho get new meteor (Rocks) effects, then they would probly be in 'Rock'It Mountain. __________________

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dctrdez Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Club 33, Trophy Room Posts: 204	You also have to realize that Anaheim's Space Mountain was designed and built in the late 70s, so there might be issues with the design and structure of the ride that prohibit any additions on the caliber of those at Hong Kong (or, any other Space Mountain for that matter). __________________ Call me Doc... Official Armchair Imagineer FIGHT ON USC!!! The secret to Disneyland's magic (a la Ray Bradbury): Doing everything you think you don't need, and realizing that you needed it all along. All I want you to think about is when people walk through or have access to anything you design, I want them, when they leave, to have smiles on their faces. Just remember that. It's all I ask of you as a designer. -Walt Disney No, I'm actually not a member of Club 33...yet...someday!

01-18-2006, 12:42:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
Robert Fuller Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 127	Well, they had to throw Hong Kong a bone. Their park has like five rides.

01-18-2006, 09:36:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
kodiak Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: White Mountains, Arizona Posts: 437	if you really want to get into it, space mountain in paris has a blast off launch instead of a drop and it has a loop.

01-18-2006, 07:18:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
50yearsofmagic Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6	I believe the main reason many special effects found in HK's SM were left out was because the DL SM refurb was supposed to last a lot longer than it did (with the ride re-opening in dec. 2005 as opposed to july) anyways..... Matt Ouimet put the SM refurb on the fast track so it could open for DL's 50th weekend..... thats just a possible suggestion... I know that the subs are also already WAY over budget so maybe that, and the new much needed enhancements in DCA, had something to do with the SM budget cuts. Anywho... here's to hoping we see some added features during the next refurb!

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01-23-2006, 09:17:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
arrowfanman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saugus, CA Posts: 41	If you saw the lights-on portion of the HK space mountain video, you can see if you look carefully, that there are actually projecting screens set up throughout the ride, to create a surface to project all of that imagery on. Well, I was always under the impression that Rockit Mountain wouldn't necessarily be as dark as Space Mountain, and that these flat white screens would potentially be visible. Perhaps I am just searching for excuses. -Jahan __________________

01-24-2006, 09:25:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
mike646 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: riverside,ca-30mins from the happiest place on earth Posts: 111 Images: 2	ok well i may be out of the loop a bit but what is this Rockit mountain that everyone is talking about?????????

01-24-2006, 09:27:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
PeoplemoverMatt Mover of People Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 4,067 Images: 16	Look here for all RockIt Mountain information and discussion: The Official Rockin' Space Mountain Discussion -- PMM __________________ "What kind of man would live where there is no daring? I don't believe in taking foolish chances, but nothing can be accomplished without taking any chance at all." -- Charles Augustus Lindberg "Our greatest natural resource is the minds of our children." -- Walter Elias Disney "So are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him...so we too might walk in the newness of life." -- Romans 6:1-4 Tokyo Photos I Tokyo Disney Resort Videos

01-24-2006, 11:32:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
mike646 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: riverside,ca-30mins from the happiest place on earth Posts: 111 Images: 2	thanks for the link that explained alot but there is still some confusion is this going to be a permanent thing or is it just for grad night

01-25-2006, 12:11:22 AM	#15 (permalink)
PeoplemoverMatt Mover of People Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 4,067 Images: 16	Well, the most popular rumor about it you'll hear is that it's destined for running during the night-time daily. What exactly that means, how exactly it'll be done, how they're going to manage 2 attractions in 1 on a daily basis, no idea there. -- PMM __________________ "What kind of man would live where there is no daring? I don't believe in taking foolish chances, but nothing can be accomplished without taking any chance at all." -- Charles Augustus Lindberg "Our greatest natural resource is the minds of our children." -- Walter Elias Disney "So are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him...so we too might walk in the newness of life." -- Romans 6:1-4 Tokyo Photos I Tokyo Disney Resort Videos

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