Star Tours + peoplemover??

[ryguy222]

^That's a pretty good idea. It should be a small hotel though, nothing huge, maybe 4-5 floors high.

[HiddenMickey]

The Garden Walk could probably benefit from a little hotel, but I don't know about it being a 'temporary' Disneyland Hotel.

[Neo]

I think they should be putting a larger hotel there and work out some way of transporting people to the park entrance. They have a huge parking lot that is big enough to hold a hotel and there are a couple hotels around the area that are 5-10 stories high in the area.

Not the size of any of the other Disney Hotels but more of a upgraded budget hotel. It doesn't have to be more than any of the hotels in the area.

[ryguy222]

^That's a good idea. I think it should still be a bit smaller than the Paradise Pier hotel. That has about 459 rooms or something like that. The GCH has 774, and the DLH has 990. Now usually most months the DLH is full, or very close to that, taking that away for a year will have devastating effects. So if we add another hotel with four hundred rooms, that will fill about of what the DLH had. So right now they've got about 2,200 rooms. Take away the DLH and they will have around 1200 rooms. add on on another 400-500 rooms and we're up to 1700. And once the hotel is re-built provided it still has the same number of rooms they'll have almost 2700 rooms. That's a big plus.
As for budget wise, I think it should be somewhere between Paradise Pier, and DLH, or perhaps below Paradise Pier, that way, more people could afford to stay at a Disney Hotel.
A problem here is transportation. You technically could walk their in maybe 10-15 minutes, but after a day at the park nobody would want to. There could be a bus system, but that would take even longer, and a Disney hotel deserves better than an ART bus, not that those are bad, but a 30-45 minute wait for a ride just doesn't cut it, for Disney's standards (well DLR's not WDW :P)
Now if Carsland wasn't happening, people could go across the street and hop on the tram. Perhaps the tram could travel along the street, when Carsland is their, and go further down, and provided a shuttle service for other people. Disney could charge people to use it, and make it free for hotel guests. Then it would pull right up close to the park entrance, and I think that's as close as your gonna get, unless you build a subway system, and that's not practical at all.

I know where garden walk is, but I'm not familiar with the spot you all are talking about putting a hotel in. We don't want a hotel as tall as the PPH. Is there enough room to build out instead of up?

[Neo]

here is the area in question http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...17.911679&z=18

it is right next to the garden walk. The hotels on the left top side are about 5 stories tall. So if you go about 7-8 stories on a hotel bordering it, it will give a nice view of the parks for guests.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ Unless I'm mistaken, that's the Pumbaa parking lot which they'll need once Timon is gone for good. I sure won't want to see what happens once the M&F Garage is full, Pinocchio is full, Lilo is full, Timon no longer exists & Pumbaa no longer exists. That's an ugly senario.

-- PMM

[ryguy222]

^Yes, that would be it according to this map.
http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disn...apOverviewPage
click on parking in the lower right corner. It doesn't say anything about it being the Pumba lot, but it does have that area marked in blue, like the other parking lots.

[Neo]

They haven't used that parking lot for cars in so long. I am still wondering how they can do it. It is not set up to accept cars like the other parking lots. And it is too small to replace the Timon.

I don't see any issues with parking what so ever. They have other parking lots around the resort that they rarely use.

[ryguy222]

^Yes, but they loose lots of capacity with that timon lot, plus I think its easier to park on that side anyway, a bit faster to get in, and easier to get to the park.

[Neo]

They have a parking lot behind the PPH that they have used as overflow before when Timon couldn't be used. It even has access to trams.

[ryguy222]

^Didn't think there was a road for the trams back there, and isn't that a lot for the hotel? Plus that still isn't much space. Its not as big as Timon.

[Neo]

Hotel has it's own parking garage. And the road between PPH and GCH is Disney property so they can run trams on it if they like. While they can't on other streets. It is meant for DTD parking but I never see it filled all the way. They have also used it for CM's too. It is pretty large and can hold probably 2/3-3/4's of Timon's size.

[HiddenMickey]

I'm sure DLR had some backup idea for parking when they decided to make Carsland.. Then there's that big empty lot across the way... if they don't want that for the third gate, that's be lots of space right there.

[emman]

I read in a thread here that the parking problem would be solved by adding floors to the Mickey and Friends parking structure, and make it, once again, the largest parking compound in the world! Makes more sense to me,

[ryguy222]

^It makes more sense yes, but I don't know if they built the parking structure to take more stress from more floors. Generally when you make a tall building, you make the stress levels higher then what the average is, because it stands up better for different weather conditions. If they made sure it could withstand stresses 3x or 4x greater then what it is now, then thats fine. If not it can be pretty risky.