which SHOULD come back? (The endless Rocket Rods/Peoplemover Debate)

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Oh no, it was FAR more scenic at Disneyland. But taking into consideration I had not ridden a Peoplemover in over a decade, even the limited views from WDW Peoplemover were welcome sights.

-- Peoplemover "The only view Rocket Rods had was of the brown '98 Tomorrowland, ick." Matt

[ScaryTrees]

Actually it was gold back then

and just because Peoplemover had short lines does not make it better unless your lazy and cant handle long lines i honestly think the Rocket Rods were better because they went fast and I like fast rides I didnt care about the long lines cause they actually were worth waiting for even though there were alot of breakdowns they never broke down for me cause they love me so much but anyways Im only judging each ride based on the actual ride not their lines or how many times they broke down or the views you get from them and I know people will disagree with me but you shouldnt try to correct me or put my opinion down or anyone elses im not doing it to you if you dont agree with me it will not change my mind about which I think is better cause it is my opinion and theres no right or wrong in that

[mickeyfanatic50]

I want Rocket Rods 2 come back because the Peoplemover is way too slow.

[RollingBoulder]

Originally Posted by ScaryTrees

Actually it was gold back then

Very little of it was actually gold. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only thing I can think of that was gold was the Astro Orbitor and maybe the Carousel building.

Originally Posted by ScaryTrees

and just because Peoplemover had short lines does not make it better unless your lazy and cant handle long lines i honestly think the Rocket Rods were better because they went fast and I like fast rides I didnt care about the long lines cause they actually were worth waiting for even though there were alot of breakdowns they never broke down for me cause they love me so much but anyways Im only judging each ride based on the actual ride not their lines or how many times they broke down or the views you get from them and I know people will disagree with me but you shouldnt try to correct me or put my opinion down or anyone elses im not doing it to you if you dont agree with me it will not change my mind about which I think is better cause it is my opinion and theres no right or wrong in that

Ever heard of punctuation?

I don't know about the others, but I'm not judging the ride based on the lines. It was a definite plus, but that's not what made the attraction. I just didn't think Rocket Rods, in its previous state, was worth the lines it produced.

[ScaryTrees]

Originally Posted by RollingBoulder

Ever heard of punctuation?

Yes I have heard of punctuation and I didnt use it because I was too lazy and too tired to worry about it, but if it would make everyone happy I'll use or try to use correct punctuation in all my posts from now on even though I'm not that great in english.

[TowerFreak99]

Peoplemover

[RU42]

Originally Posted by ScaryTrees

Yes I have heard of punctuation and I didnt use it because I was too lazy and too tired to worry about it, but if it would make everyone happy I'll use or try to use correct punctuation in all my posts from now on even though I'm not that great in english.

Please do use proper sentence structure, grammer, and punctuation. That is part of the VF guidelines. We are not the gramemr police but we do want to maintain some level of clarity. Thanks for addressing this issue in future posts.

RU

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Originally Posted by ScaryTrees, translated into readable English

Actually it was gold back then

Just because Peoplemover had short lines does not make it better unless your lazy and cant handle long lines. ... I know people will disagree with me, but you shouldnt try to correct me, or put my opinion down, or anyone elses. I'm not doing it to you. If you dont agree with me, it will not change my mind about which I think is better cause it is my opinion and theres no right or wrong in that

No I shouldn't try to correct you, or put your opinion down. I'll just take the fact you called me lazy &, unable to handle long lines and just pretend I didn't read it. Calling people names is a very good way to make yourself look immature very quickly.

First of all, '98 Tomorrowland's primary color was brown, not gold. Secondly, people who enjoy short lines don't enjoy them because they're lazy at all, they just don't feel like waiting in long lines. Why religate (that means surrender) yourself to that if you're able to figure out an alternative? Usually the people who do wait in those lines do it because they're there & they feel they have no choice because they aren't willing to stop & think of alternatives. No, they just blindly walk in, wait, and zap hours of their day. Meanwhile, the ones who enjoys short lines are executing the various strategies they've formulated to ensure short lines. Now who sounds lazier here?

Originally Posted by Scary Trees, translated

I honestly think the Rocket Rods were better because they went fast and I like fast rides. I didnt care about the long lines cause they actually were worth waiting for even though there were alot of breakdowns. They never broke down for me cause they love me so much. Anyways Im only judging each ride based on the actual ride, not their lines or how many times they broke down, or the views you get from them.

If you don't judge the rides based on lines, breakdowns, or views, then what exactly do you formulate your opinions on? You can't just ignore all the cons of a ride because you think it's better/worse than another. That's where opinions become unsupported and die. Feel lucky the Rods never broke down for you, you're probably the only person on earth who can claim that.

Originally Posted by ScaryTrees

Yes I have heard of punctuation and I didnt use it because I was too lazy and too tired to worry about it, but if it would make everyone happy I'll use or try to use correct punctuation in all my posts from now on even though I'm not that great in english.

You'd be better in it if you made a conscious effort to use it when you have the opportunity to. Remember that your writing always is a reflection on who you are as a person. I'm writing this point at 2:40am, I'm very tired, but I'm still writing properly because no one is going to look at the time of the post & give me a pass. If I wrote like that, readers would be , and the damage would then be done. The better quality of anything you do only serves to vastly improve your image in the eyes of others. If you're going to do something, do it right. Make it so you can stand next to it & be proud of it. That's what I've always believed & it applies everywhere; you never know who's watching...

-- PMM

[chadb14]

1 word

peoplemover

[Robert Fuller]

I don't understand why the Rocket Rods is (was) the only ride for which people use "long lines" as a judgment of the ride itself. No one ever says, "Space Mountain sucks because the line is so long." I understand that a lot of people didn't actually like the Rocket Rods (so there's no need to respond by saying, "The Rocket Rods were no Space Mountain"), but if you felt the ride wasn't worth the wait, then the answer would have been simple: don't wait in it. Complaining about the wait as though it affects the quality of the ride is just silly.

I think that was ScaryTrees point. I don't think he was calling everyone lazy; rather, he was saying that only lazy people would say the People Mover is a better ride than the Rocket Rods just because the wait is shorter (which is a bit like saying Gigli is a better movie than Star Wars because there was no long line to get in). Granted, I don't think anyone is using the wait time as the sole basis of judgment.

Oh, and Matt, just a suggestion for you: if you're so concerned about making yourself look immature, you might want to refrain from making egregiously condescending remarks like "Why religate (that means surrender)..." (especially when you misspelled "relegate," and it actually means "consign").

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Originally Posted by Robert Fuller

Complaining about the wait as though it affects the quality of the ride is just silly.

Not when we know the ride's line was extremely and consistently long (2 hours plus) and the cause of that was either its frequent breakdowns or its lengthy load/unload time. That does affect estimation of the ride quality.

Originally Posted by Robert Fuller

I don't think he was calling everyone lazy; rather, he was saying that only lazy people would say the People Mover is a better ride than the Rocket Rods just because the wait is shorter

Ok then why did he attach "and can't handle long lines" to lazy? And you're right, no one is using wait time as a sole basis of judgment.

Originally Posted by Robert Fuller

Oh, and Matt, just a suggestion for you: if you're so concerned about making yourself look immature, you might want to refrain from making egregiously condescending remarks like "Why religate (that means surrender)..." (especially when you misspelled "relegate," and it actually means "consign").

FYI Robert: You're right, I mean relegate, not religate. However just so you know, relegate has 4 definitions listed in my dictionary, one of which is this: "To send to a place of exile; banish." That's more where I was going with that. "Consign" isn't listed anywhere.

I never write to be egregiously condesending, and messing an e for i/i for e is no sign of maturity or immaturity. What is a sign of maturity is not lowering myself to the level of petty arguments. While I'm sure you'd love to waste another page on this boards going back & forth about whatever you want, that's pollution on these boards at best, so I'm not going to respond further on this matter. If you truely perceive anyone to be "egregiously condesending", PM a Mod about it. Name calling is beneath these boards & flaming is against guidelines.

-- PMM

[RollingBoulder]

Originally Posted by Robert Fuller

I don't understand why the Rocket Rods is (was) the only ride for which people use "long lines" as a judgment of the ride itself. No one ever says, "Space Mountain sucks because the line is so long." I understand that a lot of people didn't actually like the Rocket Rods (so there's no need to respond by saying, "The Rocket Rods were no Space Mountain"), but if you felt the ride wasn't worth the wait, then the answer would have been simple: don't wait in it. Complaining about the wait as though it affects the quality of the ride is just silly.

It has to do with what the ride replaced. IMO, A good ride with no wait was replaced with a mediocre ride with a long wait (most of the time). It wasn't that the lines made the ride worse, it's just the idea of waiting longer for a less satisfying ride than what was previously there.

[ScaryTrees]

Originally Posted by RollingBoulder

It has to do with what the ride replaced. IMO, A good ride with no wait was replaced with a mediocre ride with a long wait (most of the time). It wasn't that the lines made the ride worse, it's just the idea of waiting longer for a less satisfying ride than what was previously there.

Most people think that it is a more satisfying ride than the Peoplemover that is why it is worth the wait to ride it. Even if I liked the Peoplemover better than the Rocket Rods I would still think its worth the wait. Theres long lines everywhere at Disneyland and I think everything there is worth the wait.

P.S. What does IMO mean? I know I sound dumb for asking this but I never knew what it meant.

[ScaryTrees]

Originally Posted by PeoplemoverMatt

Ok then why did he attach "and can't handle long lines" to lazy?...Name calling is beneath these boards & flaming is against guidelines.

-- PMM

I'm sorry if i offended you or any other Peoplemover fans I didn't mean it like that at all. I just thought that is why some people would choose Peoplemover over the Rocket Rods because most people complained about the wait time being too long.

[RollingBoulder]

Originally Posted by ScaryTrees

Most people think that it is a more satisfying ride than the Peoplemover that is why it is worth the wait to ride it.

Maybe to you it was worth the wait, but in this case, I think a 10 minute, relaxing ride is much more satisfying than a 2 minute, somewhat thrilling ride.

Originally Posted by ScaryTrees

P.S. What does IMO mean? I know I sound dumb for asking this but I never knew what it meant.

It means "In my opinion".