Epcot west?

[disneys-pirate]

I heard a rumor on another site that disney plans to build Epcot west and, redue the monorail. Could this be the new name for DCA? And could a new monorail have a stop somewhere in the new park?

[Ratty12345]

I'm guessing its just a hoax. Where did you hear this rumor? :icon_ques

[RU42]

Westcot is an OLD rumor and have not heard anything new to substantiate it.

What site did you find this on?

RU

[The_real_simmer_3]

I belive you're talking about WestCOT (http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4813&highlight=Disneyland+WestCOT), right?That park was cancelled.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

People who've seen WDW's monorail system & its transportation-easing qualities are quick to ask for Disneyland's monorail be used in the same manner. What they fail to realize is that at WDW, no park admission is required for monorail usage because there are no monorail stations inside any of the theme parks.

However at Disneyland, we know there is a stop inside Tomorrowland. We also know that the Tomorrowland station used to be the single station in a entirely in-park loop, then was expanded to include the Disneyland Hotel in a 2-stop loop. But the fact remains that Disneyland's Monorail is a Disneyland park ride. It provides a unique opportunity to enter the park from the outside via a ride, or it could still be used as a ride if you decide to ride the entire loop from Tomorrowland back to Tomorrowland. Remember that all riders are required to exit in Tomorrowland.

This is why it would be extraordinarily difficult to include DCA or whatever the 2nd gate is called into a 3-stop loop. All riders in the Disneyland monorail are required to present valid admission into Disneyland Park before boarding the Disneyland ride. Makes sense right? Well then what do you do with the people w/ DCA-only tickets (yes, they exist) who would ride the monorail from DtD and sneak off into Disneyland, then exit & hit DCA, effectively stealing a 1-day park hopper ticket?

You could answer, "Well only have them present admission into Disneyland at the Tomorrowland station exit. After all, you could ride the WDW Monorail through Epcot & see a bit of Epcot w/o admission to Epcot." Well as of right now, there is not the room required to handle an admission queue in the station exit. With the re-construction of the station, there is an opporunity to install everything that would be necessary. In that case, the only problem with people riding through Disneyland to DCA w/o having Disneyland admission is how much of Disneyland you see on the route. Unlike Epcot where you only see a brief glimpse around Spaceship Earth, the route through Disneyland takes up the majority of the loop. They'd have to think long & hard about the freebie views the monorail would offer.

The other answer would be, "No one buys 1-day 1-park tickets to DCA. Just abolish them entirely & then you don't have to worry." Well, people do buy them, just not very many. Also, if you do abolish them, you also abolish the idea that DCA is its own theme park forever. DCA could never have 1-day 1-park ticket availability again once those tickets are eliminated. Moreover, you'd now have the converse problem of 1-day 1-park Disneylanders scoring free admission into DCA. So then you'd need to remove 1-day 1-park tickets to either park, effectively raising the price of 1-day admission to the park hopper price of $79. Perhaps not the wisest idea either.

Do you see the problems with the DCA-stop idea? I mean, its a nice notion to save the people the trouble of having to walk into DCA, but its a complete logistical nightmare. When such nightmares exist, they usually go without action. Unless someone creates a new master plan for the new fleet of monorails rapidly, as no plans for a DCA station have been heard to my knowledge, there most likely won't be one in the near future. However, the new name "Disneyland Resort Line" for the monorails, could be read into as an implication of future expansion. I guess we'll just have to wait & see.

-- Peoplemover "Monorails are used for transportation from point A to point B...except in Disneyland" Matt

[Sesshomaru-sama]

Wow...

[jbuck]

I think they were gunna make DCA *before it was DCA* Epcot west but dropped it fo DCA.

[The_real_simmer_3]

EPCOTwest would have been way better than DCA.I don't see why they never built it.But the monorail, i think it's ok.

[disneys-pirate]

Here it is,
http://www.mickeynews.com/Parks/Disneyland/Rumors.asp

I guess we will see!

[dc8781]

Hey Peoplemover,
how bout if they add a couple more monorail trains since the track will cover more ground and just have them stagger a DCA train ,,then a Disney train...would love to have the monorail travel thru and around DCA ,,,maybe over the big empty lake and around to the outside down Katella...i dunno,,just a thought cuz DCA needs something ,,,just something

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ Monorail tracks are incredibly expensive to build, especially over land that's currently being used. If you've tried to build a monorail in RCT, you have something of an idea of this. When the route was expanded to the Hotel, it was basically built alongside Harbor & over the parking lot. That was a big financial hit & expanding the loop farther into DCA over theme park land would be pretty much impossibly complicated.

-- PMM :cool:

[Wendell]

Disneyspirate, I highly doubt this rumor on that thread. You know how ill informed some disney employees are. Unless this "grandpa" is a high ranking imagineer and executive, I have no trust in it. Then where would they put WesCOT? The little plot of land outside of DLR would not hold that much stuff. How about that DAK idea? You need a HUGE chunk of land to let animals roam free. I highly doubt that thread.