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kodiak
02-03-2006, 11:46 AM
Well... I just got finished watching the video of the speech portion of great moments with mr. lincoln. it was in a word... powerful.
So, are they going to bring it back after the 50th celebration is over??
What are some of your views, memories, etc. give me your take on this classic attraction.
I am not sure if Disney has made the official announcement but last rumors I heard was that Lincoln would come back.
I have always loved the Lincoln shows. I think the current show is my favorite.
RU
DaddyB
02-03-2006, 12:34 PM
I think RUMORS is the apt word here...
of to the rumor mill we go!
disneylover
02-03-2006, 03:48 PM
I hope they bring it back. I really like this show! I remember I talked my friend into going who had never seen it, and they thought it was going to be boring. After the show, they loved it! I ws glad I talked them into going;)
Ratty12345
02-03-2006, 06:48 PM
I have never seen Mr. Lincoln and I really hope they open it up again so I can. I really love learning about presidents! :smile:
Sesshomaru-sama
02-03-2006, 07:19 PM
They should because the movie with Steve Martin is only about the 50 years of Disney and things like that. It fits to the 50th Anniversary. It should come back when it's all over. Besides, it's a classic.
Robert Fuller
02-03-2006, 09:05 PM
I didn't know its return was even a question. I see no reason why they wouldn't bring it back.
The Forbidden Eye
02-04-2006, 05:13 PM
They are going to. When I was in there I asked a cast member there he said it will come back after the 50th ends.
ryguy222
02-04-2006, 05:25 PM
Cm's do lie sometimes, espicially about the Rockit Mountain. And you know disney and classics... Subs....CBJ....The mine train.... the skyway...ameica sings ....carrosuel in progress. Anyway, i do want it to come back, and why did they use wireless headphones what a waste of money there is a thing called dolby.
RollingBoulder
02-04-2006, 05:52 PM
I don't think you would get quite the same effect without the headphones. Some of the 3D sound gags they use wouldn't work well without them.
Robert Fuller
02-04-2006, 05:54 PM
Yeah, you need the headphones for the 3D sound effect.
Executioner
02-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Seriously. The way they did the sound for the show is just mind-boggling. Truly a great addition to the attraction. Except the new voice of Lincoln. They could have kept the same original voice. Much better.
disneylover
02-07-2006, 12:39 PM
Yeah^ the haircut part sends chills up my spine everytime! Love that!
Chris
02-07-2006, 12:44 PM
Seriously. The way they did the sound for the show is just mind-boggling. Truly a great addition to the attraction. Except the new voice of Lincoln. They could have kept the same original voice. Much better.
Royal Dano, the voice of the original Lincoln, died in 1994. One of his last performances as an actor was in the television show 'Twin Peaks' (Judge Clinton Sternwood)
Yeah^ the haircut part sends chills up my spine everytime! Love that! Why does it need that? :icon_roll I'd like to imagine I'm in and old tyme meeting hall about 150 years ago waiting to hear a great man give a lecture. The new technology can only detract from that.
PeoplemoverMatt
02-07-2006, 08:34 PM
Well... I just got finished watching the video of the speech portion of great moments with mr. lincoln. it was in a word... powerful.
I love the speech portion in the version that came before Road to Gettysburgh. Now, they just have him giving the Gettysburgh Address. It's a great speech, don't get me wrong, but the former one just had far more impact on me because it was like hearing a Lincoln speech for the first time. The words meant more because I hadn't heard it anywhere near as often as Gettysburgh. There are some really powerful & inspirational thoughts that were heard that aren't conveyed in Gettysburgh.
-- Peoplemover "Did anyone else get some anti-war vibes from Road to Gettysburgh?" Matt
kodiak
02-08-2006, 07:06 AM
the gettysburg address is pretty short. its great, but short. I loved the original speech. I especially like the part that says, let us have faith that right makes might. and the part that said... all the armies of europe asia and africa combined could not by force take a drink from the ohio or leave a track on the blue ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. he goes on to say that is destruction be our lot, it must spring from amongst us, it cannot come from abroad.
I recall sitting almost alone in that theater and wondering why more people werent there with me. wondering why more people werent here to listen to such profound and important truth. I recall openly weeping at the end the first time I saw it. it was just so powerful.
PeoplemoverMatt
02-08-2006, 10:56 AM
let us have faith that right makes might. and the part that said... all the armies of europe asia and africa combined could not by force take a drink from the ohio or leave a track on the blue ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. he goes on to say that is destruction be our lot, it must spring from amongst us, it cannot come from abroad.
This is a very important message that today's audience needs to hear.
-- PMM :cool:
daisy66
04-23-2006, 05:24 PM
I love Lincon,my firends talked me into going ,I thought it would be a boreing,but I love it.
AaronVenn
04-23-2006, 05:38 PM
Maybe if they add Jack Sparrow & a murderous Bride that would spice up the speech a bit....
When I saw the Hall Of Presidents in Florida I was entertained.
It was educational & interesting. But I have no need to see it again.
Even though its Debbie Downers favourite ride, I'd have to disagree.
Lincoln is fun....once in a while...that 50th Anniversary Steve Martin movie
made me laugh. And made me think.
Executioner
04-28-2006, 04:33 AM
I love the Lincoln show. I miss the old one moreso. The voice was Fes parker I believe. It hhad such an aswome sound saying the speech. It really grabbed you by the throat and had you listening. I do like the new version with the new sound system. That is the coolest thing ever invented. WOW! It really felt like the barber was cutting my hair and the fly was really there too. Creepy. I really can't wait till Walt's offices come back to where they belong.
I love the Lincoln show. I miss the old one moreso. The voice was Fes parker I believe. No but it was another television and movie actor known for westerns:
Royal Dano.
He played Lincoln in a 5 part mini-series for the tv show Omnibus in 1952, and it really started off his career as an actor. He'd had a little uncredited bit part in Disney's Savage Sam, when Disney requested he record the vocal for Mr. Lincoln.
I read somewhere that Walt Disney was present when Royal Dano recorded that original Mr. Lincoln speech. Disney kept saying that it wasn't quite right and having him do the speech again. Finally, when Dano was exasperated and tired, and when he did the speech and Disney said "Perfect! That's exactly what I was looking for!" He'd wanted Lincoln to sound a little world-weary, and he got that sound by tiring the actor out! Dana was so put-off by the experience, he never worked for Disney again during Walt Disney's lifetime.
Executioner
04-28-2006, 05:51 PM
Wow! How funny. Thanks for the info on that. Walt really had a knack for getting the right thing.
CarouselOfProgress
05-02-2006, 08:41 PM
I transcribed the original speech and gave it to my eighth grade History Teacher, who now uses the original speech as a tool in her class instead of the Gettysburg Address.
"We pay tribute here not to a man who lived a century ago, but to an individual who lives today in the hearts of all freedom loving people. His prophetic words are as valid for our time as they were for his. And now the skills of the sculptor and the talents of the artis will let us relive Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln.
The World never had a good definition of the word liberty. The American people just now are much in want of one. We all declare for liberty. But in using the same word, we do not all mean the same thing. What constitutes the bulk of our liberty and independence? It is not our frowning battlements, our bristling seacoasts; these are not our reliance against tyranny. Our reliance is in the love of liberty, which God has planted in our bosom. Our defense is in the preservation of the spirit which prizes lbierty as the heritage of all men, in all lands everywhere. Destroy this spirit, and you have planted the seeds of despotism around your own doors.
At what point then, shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some trans-atlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us in a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on a blue ridge in a trial of a thousand years.
At what point than is the approach of Danger to be expected? I answer that if it ever reaches it must spring from amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, then we ourselves must be the authors and the finishers. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times or die by suicide.
Let reverence for the law be breathed by every American mother to the lisping babe that prattles on her lap. Let it be taught in the schools, in the seminaries and in the colleges. Let it be written in primers, in spelling books and almanacs. Let it be preached from a pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice. And in short, let it become the political religion of the nation. And let the old and young, the rich and the poor, the grave and the gay, of all sexes and tounges and colors, and conditions sacrifice unceasingly at its altars. And let us strive to deserve as far as mortals may, the continued care of divine providence, tusting that in future national emergencies, he will not fail to provide us the instruments of safety and security.
Let us neither be flandered from our duty by false acusations against it, or frightened from it by menaces of destruction to the government nor of dungeons to ourselves. Let us have faity that might makes right, and in that faith, let us to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.
Let this rest in your heart, through all times. Pass it on to your kids. Their kids, their children's children. This could bring back America's pride.
God Bless Abe!
God Bless America!
PeoplemoverMatt
05-02-2006, 10:58 PM
^ Just think how that would be torn & twisted if a leading Republican politician had said those very same words in a speech today. :icon_roll
-- PMM :cool:
I wish they would. I wish President Bush could give a speech like that.
PeoplemoverMatt
05-03-2006, 12:03 AM
Oh dear, you said it, now we better duck & cover for the Bush-bashers!
-- PMM :cool:
Fantasmic!kid
05-03-2006, 07:43 AM
INCOMING!!!!!!!! :eek:
CarouselOfProgress
05-04-2006, 04:47 PM
What was the last great thing a leading Republican politician has said anything to compare to those words? Bush just needs to get more aggressive and less submissive to the other side of the aisle, and please his conservative base more, which is like, all of San Diego.
Words like this could change the world. Disney should have forced every guest, before coming into the park, to watch the original version of this show. It could remind them of their duty as citizens, to vote for the people they think will best help the country, and not destroy it. As he said in the speech, As a nation of free men, we must live through all times or die by suicide. We need to remind those new voters in my high school of their duty, but who will listen to a puny freshman like me?
ALRIGHTY THEN.....
Consider this a speed bump to slow down this thread. While it has not gone off the political deep end yet; I can see it heading there.
Let's get unpolitical now before the thread gets closed or people banned.
RU
PeoplemoverMatt
05-04-2006, 07:24 PM
We need to remind those new voters in my high school of their duty, but who will listen to a puny freshman like me?
It isn't you they'd be ignoring, it's the voice of history. We all know what happens when that voice is ignored.
-- PMM :cool:
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