Mission Space at our tommorowland??

[RocketRodsluver123]

hey i heard from a cast member, that they are thinking about turning innoventions into mission space, do you think it will happen???

[disneyguy]

No... Just No.

[RollingBoulder]

No more WDW clones in Tomorrowland, please. BLAB, Space Mountain, and Innoventions are enough.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

LOL every time this comes up I just have to laugh. I posted Mission: Space to replace Innoventions as an April Fool's joke here I think in 2004, and it's still blowing around out there. Apparently I succeeded in my aim to make it real enough to be believeable. :tongue: Hey, I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but I just giggle every time I hear it...

-- PMM :cool:

[The_real_simmer_3]

40 year old building+thrill ride=damage, and i'm on matt's side.

[ryguy222]

yeah its like a landmark. First it was carosuel of progress, america sings, and and then inoventions. Correct if this is wrong plz. Anyway its a great idea. I belive that there are some good clones. Such as magic kingdom almost everything is a clone. If it wasn't that'd be cool but i gotta admit Wdw castle is way cooler. Besides it isn't a clone, Walt Disney made it, and it is very different. It is bigger, has a resort styled hotel room in it, and oh yeah FIBER OPTICS!!! I thought disney said they'd be uprgrading the castle to include that stuff. Anyway my point is things chagne when there cloned. Loook at the space mountian in paris, i haven't been on it but i watched a travel channel thing and its way more intense then all the Space mtn's so maybe if they found somewhere to put it i don't think it'd be a bad idea but its not very realistic as for where it'd go. BTW its like my favorite ride at epcot yay for 5 g's!!

[RollingBoulder]

If it wasn't that'd be cool but i gotta admit Wdw castle is way cooler. Besides it isn't a clone, Walt Disney made it, and it is very different. It is bigger, has a resort styled hotel room in it, and oh yeah FIBER OPTICS!!! I thought disney said they'd be uprgrading the castle to include that stuff. Anyway my point is things chagne when there cloned.
IMO, their castle is like their Pirates. It definitely changed, but not in a good way.

[dreamscometrue555]

anything other than innoventions will be nice!

[k_peek_2000]

true. but no to MS. It's honestly a let down of a ride. All that money spend on a ride that nobody rides because it makes them throw up..... Doesnt belong in Disneyland. Never.

[Ratty12345]

A revolving building turned into Mission Space? I think not.. :\

[Sesshomaru-sama]

If Disney Co. is thinking to replace Innoventions with something else, I think it should be something that involves the building going in circles like now. Besides, I think Mission: Space is too big to fit in the Innoventions building. It'll interfere with the Disneyland Railroad tracks. Either that, close down a chunk of Tomorrowland and build it there. Either way, it's not a good idea to put it in there.

[AaronVenn]

Yeh sorry to all the Florida people but it sucks compared to the Anaheim park.
Look I know its bigger, but quality over quantity impresses me.

I went to Anaheim first then over to Florida & since everything was pretty much exactly the same I was bored n shiftless.

The only memorable difference was the Library in the Haunted Mansion & no drop at the start of Pirates. Everything else made me yawn openly.

Sure, Mission Space was interesting, but you can spin repeatedly in a circle and get the same effect...oh, but Gary Sinese wouldn't be there.

I love Disneylands everywhere, don't get me wrong, but when exact copies are made its sad.
France & Tokyo are trend-setters for re-invention I say. But then again, Anaheim started it all...

[protostars]

No more WDW clones in Tomorrowland, please. BLAB, Space Mountain, and Innoventions are enough.

Our space mountain is not a WDW clone. :icon_shoc
it is much better. :smile:

Their Space Mt. was an attempt to clone the matterhorn. :icon_roll
we have the new (now really new) and improved space mountain. :biggrin:

as for mission space, leave it there...
we need something totally new here.... :cool:

[RollingBoulder]

Our space mountain is not a WDW clone. :icon_shoc
it is much better. :smile:

Their Space Mt. was an attempt to clone the matterhorn. :icon_roll
we have the new (now really new) and improved space mountain. :biggrin:

Oh I know, but I still consider it a clone. None of the "clones" are exactly the same, but they're the same idea.

[disneyguy]

Our space mountain is not a WDW clone.
it is much better.

Their Space Mt. was an attempt to clone the matterhorn.
we have the new (now really new) and improved space mountain.
I thought their attempt to clone the matterhorn was expedition everest... But I agree leave Mission: Space there. :wink:

-DG

[king_mickey]

No misson space stays better in florida, though i rode it, it was alright. It felt liked you floated a bit but it wasnt amazing.

[ScaryTrees]

I loved that ride it was awsome and I don't get why people are so against WDW rides coming to Anaheim. I don't think this will actually happen but I would be glad if it did. Anyways people think that when WDW clones our rides they suck, and when we clone their rides they are better. Just because Disneyland is the original park doesn't make everything here better than everywhere else. I'd also rather see new ideas made but I would be happy with their clones as long as it does't get out of hand.

[RollingBoulder]

Anyways people think that when WDW clones our rides they suck, and when we clone their rides they are better. Just because Disneyland is the original park doesn't make everything here better than everywhere else.
Where are you getting that from?
I'd also rather see new ideas made but I would be happy with their clones as long as it does't get out of hand.
I think it already has gotten out of hand. There are already 3 (4 if you count Space Mountain) WDW clones in Tomorrowland alone.

[dreamscometrue555]

must we rely on WDW rides??
apparently yes

[PeoplemoverMatt]

There are already 3 (4 if you count Space Mountain) WDW clones in Tomorrowland alone.

Not exactly sure what clones you're talking about here. There aren't any rides in Disneyland's Tomorrowland that were cloned from WDW. Buzz is a clone from Tokyo, our Star Tours opened first, our Space Mountain opened first (twice), Innoventions is so very different from Innoventions at Epcot that I really don't look at it as a clone. Innoventions @ WDW is split into 2 pavilions & even has its own area map. They don't have to suffer through a painful video to get in, nor does their's rotate. :icon_shoc

-- PMM :cool:

[RollingBoulder]

Yes, Buzz was a clone of Tokyo's, which was basically a clone of WDW's with some minor modifications.

HISTA is a clone from Epcot

Innoventions is the same name, same idea (although better executed at Epcot) .

Space Mountain is such a similar idea at both parks, I consider it a clone. I don't think it's any less of a clone than Splash Mountain at WDW. Both are quite different, but they definitely aren't different rides. Others may not agree though, that's why I didn't include it.

\/ Yep, none of the clones are exactly the same, but they aren't exactly original ideas either.

[Ratty12345]

^Too many clones, Disney needs more ideas :confused:

[dctrdez]

^^^"Out of the Pixar building and into TDA, it's the lone ranger of Disneyland, John Lassetter! What strange and wonderous adventures can we expect from WDI with his approval? Tune in the next few years and find out...

[kates4u]

Just because Disneyland is the original park doesn't make everything here better than everywhere else.
Yes it does! :smile: J/K

[Executioner]

^^^"Out of the Pixar building and into TDA, it's the lone ranger of Disneyland, John Lassetter! What strange and wonderous adventures can we expect from WDI with his approval? Tune in the next few years and find out...

John Lassetter presents, Walt Disney's Disneyland of Pixar. J/K.... Maybe.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Guys, as head of both WDI & Animation, John's new position is very similar to one, Walt Disney. We could be witnessing as close to a 21st century Walt as we'll ever see.

-- PMM :cool:

[AaronVenn]

Hi
Yeh leave Mission Space in Florida.
It makes sense in Epcot though because Epcot is like "Scienceland"
and very sciencey.
When I ask random people about Tomorrowland in Disneyland they either say "Oooh Space Mountain" or if theyre under 10 "Oooh, Buzz Lightyear"

So yeh, keep exclusive Mission: Space in Florida cos everyone enjoys it down there.

Hear hear

[Pao927]

that would be great change it to space..we need something new around here...

-paolo

[k_peek_2000]

If people don't ride it in florida, what makes you think that they would ride it here?

[Executioner]

If people don't ride it in florida, what makes you think that they would ride it here?

Because we Californians love wild rides. Look at Magic Mountain. Can't get enough. Besides TL needs something else space related and somewhat futuristic. I think Walt would be very pleased to have this as an addition to TL. After all we did have Mission to Mars and the Moon. This would just be another mutation if you will of that style ride. Plus it is not movie based and is as close to a being in a real rocket launch as your gonna get.

[k_peek_2000]

I'm still against the idea. It would be a fun ride in TL. But not worthy enough to tear an old ride out for it.

[Executioner]

Not even Innoventions? I know there is the question if it will fit in there, but Innoventions man. Get rid of it.

[Lorna phillips]

There are plus and minus to both DL and WDW, Disneyland's pirates, Haunted mansion and Indiana Jones are way better, However WDW's tower of terror is far better, Animal Kingdom is way cool, and Fantasmic actually has comfortable stadium seating. The one really great thing about DL is Walt walked those streets, way cool, I am really glad I got to experience both parks. I hope to some day see Tokyo's and paris. Lorna

[Rinith]

Hmm I wonder if anything would fit in the HISTA building?

[k_peek_2000]

The Carosel (SP) theater is a land mark and I dont think walt would like it if they got rid of it. I say bring back the carosel of progress and ditch innoventions.

[caseyr333]

it will be nice if they do then we wont have to go to disneyworld which will cost alot of money to go.

[daisy66]

yeah its like a landmark. First it was carosuel of progress, america sings, and and then inoventions. Correct if this is wrong plz. Anyway its a great idea. I belive that there are some good clones. Such as magic kingdom almost everything is a clone. If it wasn't that'd be cool but i gotta admit Wdw castle is way cooler. Besides it isn't a clone, Walt Disney made it, and it is very different. It is bigger, has a resort styled hotel room in it, and oh yeah FIBER OPTICS!!! I thought disney said they'd be uprgrading the castle to include that stuff. Anyway my point is things chagne when there cloned. Loook at the space mountian in paris, i haven't been on it but i watched a travel channel thing and its way more intense then all the Space mtn's so maybe if they found somewhere to put it i don't think it'd be a bad idea but its not very realistic as for where it'd go. BTW its like my favorite ride at epcot yay for 5 g's!!


I thought the disneyland castle was first,because disneyland was first and the castle was there on opening day :confused: .I think that mission space is a good idea if they do not have to change the building,it is kinda like a landmark.

[k_peek_2000]

okay that is exactly what i said lol.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Kicking the idea around is fun, but seeing as how this was born out of an April Fool's joke I wrote 2 years ago, I'm still cracking up. :tongue:

-- PMM :cool:

[LoehnWolf]

Oh lord you people are kinda pathetic..this whole east coast/west coast thing..like its some kinda contest and you have to prove something..listen I will agree that there are some awesome things from what I have seen at DLR..But there are some awesome things at WDW as well..of course all you West Coast people are gonna say yours is better..its a matter of loyalty to your park..but lets not make it a competition. Anyone can sling criticisms. But it takes a truly mature person to appreciate each park for what they have to offer..

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Point taken LoehnWolf, but some of us have been around to see each of these parks as well as many others in the world & form our opinions and perceptions from there. I can leave all senses of home park loyalty, look at things objectively, and still easily conclude that with just about everything DLR has in common with WDW, DLR has the better of. People who've been here know that I can get into pretty length theses proving it as well.

There's nothing wrong with a healthy comparison, and all it takes is one person who says "we're better than you!! :tongue:" to send us down the road of comparison. You're right, we always need to have a basis for claiming our views, or they don't hold anything. If you've been in this "business" (for lack of a better term) for a while, you know that for every 1 who says Disneyland CA is the best of the best, there are about 100 or so who'd tout WDW as the best of the best. So those who consider DLR the best (and remember, people have come to this conclusion objectively having seen all that each place has to offer) need to make their voices heard & not let the general perception be that WDW is #1.

LoehnWolf, I'd encourage you to be a part of the discussion, not merely a critic of it. What are your views? What basis do you have for those views? Why do you agree/disagree with previous comments? On what basis do you claim people are just saying things because of where they live? Where do you live? Do you ever make claims based on home familiarity? What's your objective opinion? Answer questions like these & become a part of what's going on here.

-- PMM :cool:

[LoehnWolf]

I totally agree with every valid point you made Matt and by no means was my post meant to sound as a flame..I just feel that each park has its high and low points and its very easy to play loyalty if you spend more time at a particular park..I clearly admit that alot more detail goes into attractions at DLR..thats NO contest. Some of the attractions are longer and have better storylines. Its something Ive always thought needed work at WDW. But I also think WDW has its strengths. You can start at the resorts which to me are vastly better at WDW if for no other reason than the variety, and what about waterparks? Its all subjective to what a person wants and looks for in a resort. There is sooo much more to do at WDW. But again givng props to DLR for the as you put it "quality" I total agree. The attention to detail is significantly better at DLR. That is my objective opinion and I am a WDW fan. And I think in some ways it is in a persons nature to be loyal to the park closer just like a person is loyal to the local sports team. I am from CT, granted closer to WDW which is why I go there but still not "local". Im not implying that DLR is worse I am saying each park has their plaus and minus points..thats all..peace

[PeoplemoverMatt]

That's fine, it's just the whole calling people pathetic & talking us down like we don't know what we're talking about that raised my eyebrows there.

-- PMM :cool:

[LoehnWolf]

well I agree and apologize but I also think there is a bias..DLR is great for a weekend jaunt..not for a long term vacation. And to hear people bashing WDW attractions raised MY eyebrows..its not about not knowing what you are talking about..its about tastes..everyone has them..and none are the same..you call them clones, I see it as giving people at both parks the opportunity to experience attractions that are doing well..if Star Tours does well in one park shouldnt people at the other be allowed to enjoy it as well? Each park SHOULD have its own originality but..I also believe there should be a common theme between them as well. Maybe the Magic Kingdom there should be more CA themed or the florida more colonial? The HMs are a perfect reflection of this. But sharing attractions or clones lets everyone get the chance to experience things they may not normally get the chance to enjoy. Its when there are too many that the parks become cookie cutter like Six Flags.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Oh I have to disagree with that. While WDW may have more gates, it pales in comparison to the attractions per park ratio that DLR has. You could easily spend just as much time exploring the theme parks in DLR as you would in WDW, if you didn't use the 1 park per day GP mindset. Plus at DLR you would walk a whole lot less. :wink:

-- PMM :cool:

[LoehnWolf]

I still have to disagree because there are many more resorts and things outside of the actual parks to do in WDW than DLR. From what I have seen the DLR MK is fairly similiar in layout just more compact. Some variations yes but overall similar. You have nothing like Epcot there nor the AK which are 2 of my favorite parks. Not to mention water parks and a larger downtown area. I would concede that quality of the attractions are great in DLR, but when I am taking 2 weeks off for a vacation, I hope there is enough there to keep me busy and at WDW I know there is

[sora_145]

Disney isn't stupid, another person died on MS, there on the brink of closing it, there not going to put it in DLR ( The not as common park TAKE THAT AaronVenn! )

[LoehnWolf]

I dont see why Disney should close the attraction simply because a few people chose to ignore the warning about heart conditions or simply didnt know they HAD a heart condition? That is why they have decided on creating a less intensive version for those that can not ride the more intense version of the ride. Those of us that enjoy the ride shouldn't suffer..

[sora_145]

When somebody died on the sky cars at WDW they closed them. But then again, sky cars must cost alot of money, so they were probobly gonna close them anyway...

[LoehnWolf]

yes but people have died on Disney attractions and many of those are still open..I believe there is a post here all about those..including the Matterhorn, the monorail, One of the boats might be the Mark Twain..in both the occasions Ive read at MS both of the people had health issues and chose to ignore the warnings.

[csmarc34]

You have more of a chance watching the Saints win the Super Bowl with Tupac Shakur while Walt Disney sings "Yo-ho Yo-ho" than seeing Mission Space in Disneyland. don't mean to be overly sarcastic....oh, wait....yeah I do

[csmarc34]

I dont know why, but I laughed for like a minute literally haha.

-SPΛCE

LOL, yeah, me too. It just kinda came to me,

[jagfkb]

it certainly would be interesting. lets wait & see

[Narnian Princess]

I know this is a werid idea....
but what if they made it some sort of water ride....
thoughts...?


the part that saddens me is that tommorowland has become semi-spacy/retro land.

No one "Tommorowland"
Asimo in INnoventions is cool...however I never saw him\
Innoventions is cool in therory but Disney needs to update it....come on people!.......

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Innoventions isn't something Disney updates really. Innoventions is more like a giant sponsor bazarre where the sponsors themselves choose what they want to market to the paying customers in there. Many times multi-year contracts are involved.

-- PMM :cool: