which SHOULD come back? (The endless Rocket Rods/Peoplemover Debate)

[dreamscometrue555]

peoplemover

rocket rods

[RollingBoulder]

Peoplemover. All Rocket Rods seemed to do was create unnecessarily long lines for a faster version of the Peoplemover.

[disneyguy]

Peoplemover. All Rocket Rods seemed to do was create unnecessarily long lines for a fast version of the Peoplemover.Hey, give rocket rods credit. It broke too.:wink:

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ But unlike Peoplemover, it was destined to break. Engineering design & budget cuts mix like bathwater & toasters.

-- PMM :cool:

[disneyguy]

^ But unlike Peoplemover, it was destined to break. Engineering design & budget cuts mix like bathwater & toasters.

-- PMM :cool:I'm just going to take a stab at what you voted for... umm... Let's see, PeoplemoverMatt, PeoplemoverMatt, PeoplemoverMatt...
I will guess the Peoplemover? Maybe?

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ I was thinking of giving the Rods a sympathy vote, just so it has 1 vote y'know, but...nah. :wink:

-- PMM :cool:

[astroZOMBIE]

I dont think i can vote! I barly remeber Rocket Rods... and my parents never took me on People Mover when I was little hmmm.. Ill think about this one.

[mrskellington]

AstroZombie, just watch a video of the two and then choose, even though it won't be like riding the actual thing.

[astroZOMBIE]

I think I'll go with People Mover. Seems so much more origianal...and like a good cool down ride. Yep I chose PM.

[RU42]

Here is something to think about....if they brought RR back where would they put the queue? The old queue is now Buzz.

RU

[AlexLoup]

True, I went for PM, I remember the fact that the lines were short. It was very relaxing. I loved the Tron tunnel, and the mooning stromtrooper.

[Cavemandon]

...Engineering design & budget cuts mix like bathwater & toasters.LOL That is an excellent analogy. Matt! Perfect!

[Indyjohn]

Peoplemover was one of my classic favorites ever since I was a kid. They need to bring that ride back!

[Sesshomaru-sama]

I do like the Peoplemover, but I do prefer Rocket Rods because it's fast.

[CLASSIC HM]

As great as the Rocket Rods were, I would prefer the Peoplemover. The Rocket Rods were too fast for me to enjoy the view the track had to offer.

[RocketRodsluver123]

Rocket Rods all the way, it was so fun, and it goes fast for a longer time than the test track did, cuz test track only goes fast for about 30 to 45 seconds, and the rocket rods went fast for over three minutes, so u can count me in for rocket rodsm, and hey those cars lokked really cool!

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Rocket Rods all the way, it was so fun, and it goes fast for a longer time than the test track did, cuz test track only goes fast for about 30 to 45 seconds, and the rocket rods went fast for over three minutes, so u can count me in for rocket rodsm, and hey those cars lokked really cool!

The comparison is Rocket Rods to Peoplemover. :smile:

-- PMM :cool:

[Ratty12345]

I guess I would say People Mover, I have never been on that ride before.

[unspokenlonging]

I remember neither to even decide :P

[king_mickey]

I go for Peoplemover, even though its slow its so cool being above tomorrowland and going through the rides. Awesome.

[Ezra]

I used to buy an extra D ticket or two
so I could ride the PeopleMover again.
The young lady in the ticket booth would look at me quizically
and tilt her head to one side and say
Don't you mean E ticket?
and I would say
No, I want to ride the PeopleMover!
and she would sort of light up and nod and say
Oh! That would be a D ticket! then smile broadly and take my 65 cents
and hand me the precious D ticket.

[Robert Fuller]

I liked the People Mover, but somehow I don't really miss it, not in the way I miss, say, Adventure Thru Inner Space. Maybe it's because the Rocket Rods was (were?) so much better.

[RollingBoulder]

Maybe it's because the Rocket Rods was (were?) so much better.
Eh, I'd rather not wait 1 hour plus for a ride on the same track that lasts what... 2 minutes? Peoplemover was one of the few attractions that give a satisfying experience with little or no wait. Yes, it was a little more thrilling, but it didn't even do that very well. You'd finally pick up some speed... then you would slow down again. Yet, it was too fast for you to be able to really enjoy the view.

[Robert Fuller]

Eh, I'd rather not wait 1 hour plus for a ride on the same track that lasts what... 2 minutes? Peoplemover was one of the few attractions that give a satisfying experience with little or no wait. Yes, it was a little more thrilling, but it didn't even do that very well. You'd finally pick up some speed... then you would slow down again. Yet, it was too fast for you to be able to really enjoy the view.
I never really cared about the view. I mean, let's face it, Tomorrowland was pretty ugly in the days of the People Mover. There wasn't really anything to see that you couldn't see from the ground, or, even better, from the Sky Way. The only thing I really miss about it was the Tron thing. Actually, I think I miss the voice saying "Prepare for the game grid of Tron" even more than I miss the actual Tron thing.

[wwe_wordlife619]

I dont remember ever going on people move buy the rockit rods were awesome. I miss them a lot. I would like to see them come back. the rods were great to go on at night.

[Pinocchio85]

Without question the Rocket Rods. The PeopleMover view was not great. I'm all for slow rides, but I don't think the view was that great. The Rocket Rods were fun, fast and a lot more popular. The PeopleMover wasn't popular in it's last days and probably wouldn't be very popular if it returned.

[RollingBoulder]

I personally would love to have a view winding through Autopia, the Submarine Lagoon, Space Mountain, etc.

I guess I wasn't a huge fan of the RR in their previous state. If they ever brought back the Rocket Rods, I would hope they would significantly redo it. Obviously banking the track to get rid of the annoying speed up and slow down business. I also wish they would redesign the vehicles. Granted, they did look very cool, but unless you were sitting in the front seat, you couldn't see hardly anything.

[CLASSIC HM]

There is a 100% probability that the Rocket Rods will never return. It will be either one of three choices: the return of peoplemover, a different attraction, or the "Skyway Approach" - Get rid of an attraction and don't bother replacing it.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

The PeopleMover wasn't popular in it's last days and probably wouldn't be very popular if it returned.

Well, it's still very much alive, and just as popular as it's ever been, in WDW. It was so odd riding that there. Everything was so similar to how it was at Disneyland, right down to the little to no wait time, until I actually boarded the Peoplemover w/ no bars & a roof :tongue:.

-- Peoplemover "Still had a good view despite the roof!" Matt

[RollingBoulder]

-- Peoplemover "Still had a good view despite the roof!" Matt
I honestly don't have more than a couple memories of riding the DL PM. But after riding "TTA" at WDW and seeing the track layout of Disneyland's from the Rocket Rods, it seems like the ride would be much more scenic and interesting at DL. The view was definitely good at WDW, but it just looks that much better at DL. I could be wrong though.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Oh no, it was FAR more scenic at Disneyland. But taking into consideration I had not ridden a Peoplemover in over a decade, even the limited views from WDW Peoplemover were welcome sights. :smile:

-- Peoplemover "The only view Rocket Rods had was of the brown '98 Tomorrowland, ick." Matt

[ScaryTrees]

Actually it was gold back then

and just because Peoplemover had short lines does not make it better unless your lazy and cant handle long lines i honestly think the Rocket Rods were better because they went fast and I like fast rides I didnt care about the long lines cause they actually were worth waiting for even though there were alot of breakdowns they never broke down for me cause they love me so much but anyways Im only judging each ride based on the actual ride not their lines or how many times they broke down or the views you get from them and I know people will disagree with me but you shouldnt try to correct me or put my opinion down or anyone elses im not doing it to you if you dont agree with me it will not change my mind about which I think is better cause it is my opinion and theres no right or wrong in that

[mickeyfanatic50]

I want Rocket Rods 2 come back because the Peoplemover is way too slow.

[RollingBoulder]

Actually it was gold back then
Very little of it was actually gold. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only thing I can think of that was gold was the Astro Orbitor and maybe the Carousel building.

and just because Peoplemover had short lines does not make it better unless your lazy and cant handle long lines i honestly think the Rocket Rods were better because they went fast and I like fast rides I didnt care about the long lines cause they actually were worth waiting for even though there were alot of breakdowns they never broke down for me cause they love me so much but anyways Im only judging each ride based on the actual ride not their lines or how many times they broke down or the views you get from them and I know people will disagree with me but you shouldnt try to correct me or put my opinion down or anyone elses im not doing it to you if you dont agree with me it will not change my mind about which I think is better cause it is my opinion and theres no right or wrong in that
Ever heard of punctuation? :icon_roll

I don't know about the others, but I'm not judging the ride based on the lines. It was a definite plus, but that's not what made the attraction. I just didn't think Rocket Rods, in its previous state, was worth the lines it produced.

[ScaryTrees]

Ever heard of punctuation? :icon_roll


Yes I have heard of punctuation and I didnt use it because I was too lazy and too tired to worry about it, but if it would make everyone happy I'll use or try to use correct punctuation in all my posts from now on even though I'm not that great in english.

[TowerFreak99]

Peoplemover

[RU42]

Yes I have heard of punctuation and I didnt use it because I was too lazy and too tired to worry about it, but if it would make everyone happy I'll use or try to use correct punctuation in all my posts from now on even though I'm not that great in english.

Please do use proper sentence structure, grammer, and punctuation. That is part of the VF guidelines. We are not the gramemr police but we do want to maintain some level of clarity. Thanks for addressing this issue in future posts.

RU

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Actually it was gold back then

Just because Peoplemover had short lines does not make it better unless your lazy and cant handle long lines. ... I know people will disagree with me, but you shouldnt try to correct me, or put my opinion down, or anyone elses. I'm not doing it to you. If you dont agree with me, it will not change my mind about which I think is better cause it is my opinion and theres no right or wrong in that

No I shouldn't try to correct you, or put your opinion down. I'll just take the fact you called me lazy &, unable to handle long lines and just pretend I didn't read it. :wink: Calling people names is a very good way to make yourself look immature very quickly.

First of all, '98 Tomorrowland's primary color was brown, not gold. Secondly, people who enjoy short lines don't enjoy them because they're lazy at all, they just don't feel like waiting in long lines. Why religate (that means surrender) yourself to that if you're able to figure out an alternative? Usually the people who do wait in those lines do it because they're there & they feel they have no choice because they aren't willing to stop & think of alternatives. No, they just blindly walk in, wait, and zap hours of their day. Meanwhile, the ones who enjoys short lines are executing the various strategies they've formulated to ensure short lines. Now who sounds lazier here?

I honestly think the Rocket Rods were better because they went fast and I like fast rides. I didnt care about the long lines cause they actually were worth waiting for even though there were alot of breakdowns. They never broke down for me cause they love me so much. Anyways Im only judging each ride based on the actual ride, not their lines or how many times they broke down, or the views you get from them.
If you don't judge the rides based on lines, breakdowns, or views, then what exactly do you formulate your opinions on? You can't just ignore all the cons of a ride because you think it's better/worse than another. That's where opinions become unsupported and die. Feel lucky the Rods never broke down for you, you're probably the only person on earth who can claim that.

Yes I have heard of punctuation and I didnt use it because I was too lazy and too tired to worry about it, but if it would make everyone happy I'll use or try to use correct punctuation in all my posts from now on even though I'm not that great in english.
You'd be better in it if you made a conscious effort to use it when you have the opportunity to. Remember that your writing always is a reflection on who you are as a person. I'm writing this point at 2:40am, I'm very tired, but I'm still writing properly because no one is going to look at the time of the post & give me a pass. If I wrote like that, readers would be :eek:, and the damage would then be done. The better quality of anything you do only serves to vastly improve your image in the eyes of others. If you're going to do something, do it right. Make it so you can stand next to it & be proud of it. That's what I've always believed & it applies everywhere; you never know who's watching...

-- PMM :cool:

[chadb14]

1 word

peoplemover

[Robert Fuller]

I don't understand why the Rocket Rods is (was) the only ride for which people use "long lines" as a judgment of the ride itself. No one ever says, "Space Mountain sucks because the line is so long." I understand that a lot of people didn't actually like the Rocket Rods (so there's no need to respond by saying, "The Rocket Rods were no Space Mountain"), but if you felt the ride wasn't worth the wait, then the answer would have been simple: don't wait in it. Complaining about the wait as though it affects the quality of the ride is just silly.

I think that was ScaryTrees point. I don't think he was calling everyone lazy; rather, he was saying that only lazy people would say the People Mover is a better ride than the Rocket Rods just because the wait is shorter (which is a bit like saying Gigli is a better movie than Star Wars because there was no long line to get in). Granted, I don't think anyone is using the wait time as the sole basis of judgment.

Oh, and Matt, just a suggestion for you: if you're so concerned about making yourself look immature, you might want to refrain from making egregiously condescending remarks like "Why religate (that means surrender)..." (especially when you misspelled "relegate," and it actually means "consign").

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Complaining about the wait as though it affects the quality of the ride is just silly.
Not when we know the ride's line was extremely and consistently long (2 hours plus) and the cause of that was either its frequent breakdowns or its lengthy load/unload time. That does affect estimation of the ride quality.

I don't think he was calling everyone lazy; rather, he was saying that only lazy people would say the People Mover is a better ride than the Rocket Rods just because the wait is shorter
Ok then why did he attach "and can't handle long lines" to lazy? And you're right, no one is using wait time as a sole basis of judgment.

Oh, and Matt, just a suggestion for you: if you're so concerned about making yourself look immature, you might want to refrain from making egregiously condescending remarks like "Why religate (that means surrender)..." (especially when you misspelled "relegate," and it actually means "consign").
FYI Robert: You're right, I mean relegate, not religate. However just so you know, relegate has 4 definitions listed in my dictionary, one of which is this: "To send to a place of exile; banish." That's more where I was going with that. "Consign" isn't listed anywhere.

I never write to be egregiously condesending, and messing an e for i/i for e is no sign of maturity or immaturity. What is a sign of maturity is not lowering myself to the level of petty arguments. While I'm sure you'd love to waste another page on this boards going back & forth about whatever you want, that's pollution on these boards at best, so I'm not going to respond further on this matter. If you truely perceive anyone to be "egregiously condesending", PM a Mod about it. Name calling is beneath these boards & flaming is against guidelines.

-- PMM :cool:

[RollingBoulder]

I don't understand why the Rocket Rods is (was) the only ride for which people use "long lines" as a judgment of the ride itself. No one ever says, "Space Mountain sucks because the line is so long." I understand that a lot of people didn't actually like the Rocket Rods (so there's no need to respond by saying, "The Rocket Rods were no Space Mountain"), but if you felt the ride wasn't worth the wait, then the answer would have been simple: don't wait in it. Complaining about the wait as though it affects the quality of the ride is just silly.

It has to do with what the ride replaced. IMO, A good ride with no wait was replaced with a mediocre ride with a long wait (most of the time). It wasn't that the lines made the ride worse, it's just the idea of waiting longer for a less satisfying ride than what was previously there.

[ScaryTrees]

It has to do with what the ride replaced. IMO, A good ride with no wait was replaced with a mediocre ride with a long wait (most of the time). It wasn't that the lines made the ride worse, it's just the idea of waiting longer for a less satisfying ride than what was previously there.

Most people think that it is a more satisfying ride than the Peoplemover that is why it is worth the wait to ride it. Even if I liked the Peoplemover better than the Rocket Rods I would still think its worth the wait. Theres long lines everywhere at Disneyland and I think everything there is worth the wait.

P.S. What does IMO mean? I know I sound dumb for asking this but I never knew what it meant.

[ScaryTrees]

Ok then why did he attach "and can't handle long lines" to lazy?...Name calling is beneath these boards & flaming is against guidelines.

-- PMM :cool:


I'm sorry if i offended you or any other Peoplemover fans I didn't mean it like that at all. I just thought that is why some people would choose Peoplemover over the Rocket Rods because most people complained about the wait time being too long.

[RollingBoulder]

Most people think that it is a more satisfying ride than the Peoplemover that is why it is worth the wait to ride it.
Maybe to you it was worth the wait, but in this case, I think a 10 minute, relaxing ride is much more satisfying than a 2 minute, somewhat thrilling ride.

P.S. What does IMO mean? I know I sound dumb for asking this but I never knew what it meant.
It means "In my opinion".

[Robert Fuller]

However just so you know, relegate has 4 definitions listed in my dictionary, one of which is this: "To send to a place of exile; banish."
Hence, "consign," not "surrender."

I never write to be egregiously condesending, and messing an e for i/i for e is no sign of maturity or immaturity.
You miss my point. Talking down to someone by using a word and then immediately defining it for them, as if to imply that they're too stupid to understand you, is immature (the fact that you did it incorrectly only makes it worse). Whether or not you intended to be condescending doesn't change the fact that you were, and it's incredibly impolite. I'm not "flaming" or trying to start an argument, I'm simply asking you to practice what you preach and be a bit nicer to your fellow VFers. :smile:

[PeoplemoverMatt]

I'll repeat it, stick to it & be done with it.
I never write to be egregiously condesending, and messing an e for i/i for e is no sign of maturity or immaturity. What is a sign of maturity is not lowering myself to the level of petty arguments. While I'm sure you'd love to waste another page on this boards going back & forth about whatever you want, that's pollution on these boards at best, so I'm not going to respond further on this matter. If you truely perceive anyone to be "egregiously condesending", PM a Mod about it. Name calling is beneath these boards & flaming is against guidelines.

I was not rude in any way, I didn't get any definition wrong, and frankly you're the last person here who should be telling others how impolite they were & to be nicer. Please find something more productive to do with your time than engaging in pointless attacks on me for a couple of typos. I'm done with this.

-- PMM :cool:

[ScaryTrees]

I think we should get back to the actual point of this thread.

I choose the Rocket Rods.

Next.

[Fantasmic_Freak]

*watches the non-argumentive one sided argument unfold* reminds me of the witches or morgana.. is it morgana?

[brerbear8]

Peoplemover all the way! Better ride experience definitely. It was a great ride that loaded and unloaded very quickly (hence the short wait times), the great views, and the relaxing pace of the ride. It offered a good view of Space Mountain for people who do not ride more intense rides (in RCT terms), as well as great views of the rest of Tomorrowland. Plus, the Astro Orbiter was on top of the Peoplemover loading platform, and that was the best ride in the park! Well, at least it was my favorite back in the day!

[Ezra]

Whatever it is that uses that track next needs to be something that is always on, and always moving. It's important to the visual appeal of Tomorrowland that it appear to be a world on the move as the saying goes. All over Tomorrowland people should see vehicles moving around. It adds to the futuristic ambience. When I think of the future I think Where are the flying cars they've been promising us for the last 50 years? The Peoplemover, at least was always running. So whatever it is, I hope it's something reliable

[Chris]

Folks, please remember to stay ON TOPIC.

Robert and Matt, COOL IT (again)

[Jeinkinslod]

foolishness! if rocket rods had a funding it could be awesome. I went on Rocket rods at least 15 times flawlessly without delay. dont yall remember what it was like to be walking around and to have the rocket rods constantly flying around. awesome

[Executioner]

They were fun, but they destroyed 2 attractions just to make one that didn't work right and the line was always very long. The queue was horrendous. I couldn't stand seeing it. A really cool attraction destroyed to make way for a very boring and unimaginative queue for a ride they didn't even keep around. WAY TO GO!!!! I chose the Peoplemover cause I had more fun going slow and soaking up all the sites you could see while riding it. You could even take some time to look behind the scenes. RR went way to quick to get a good look. Or to even relax and enjoy anything. Bring back the Peoplemover.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

You guys have no idea how popular the Peoplemover would be today. People are foaming at the mouth today for a relaxing ride through places like Space Mountain where they can get off their tired feet, have a nice ride, and just have fun with the kids without standing in line for an hour or so...

-- Peoplemover "It will come back...I've known since the day it closed that it will return someday!" Matt

[Executioner]

Fully with you on that one Matt. It may not look like it did, but something slow paced and relaxing will come back to it and more than likely be named the Peoplemover or something similar to that name. I mean, what could they do to the track? They can't add a fast ride again. They already did that and it failed. Taking it out entirely would mean closing TL and they don't want to do that now that they just reopened SM. They need another attraction there.