The Official Rocket Rods Thread [Archive]

RocketRodsluver123

08-26-2005, 11:55 AM

yes i agree, but remeber that due to a 10 percent budget, the rods were incapable, and no money was there for a modified track, i honestly think if al lutz sais what he means, possibly a full budget, with just everything it needs to be a test track. i really hope it comes back though cuz it really was better than the peoplemover

RankoAnime

08-26-2005, 11:59 AM

I believe this should be in The Rumor Mill section of the forums...

A lot of people say they didn't like Rocket Rods because of the constant break downs and long lines, but I really liked them! At that time, it was my favorite ride. Although, it was only enjoyable for me when I could sit in the front and be able to see everything in front of me (I'm like that with most rides though, front = best).

It would be really nice if Disneyland could bring them back and improve them so they wouldn't break down as much. But alas, I don't think that will be happening...

Pinocchio85

08-26-2005, 01:10 PM

I really wish the Rocket Rods would come back. I really hated the PeopleMover and I thought Rocket Rods was a big improvement.

What's frustrating is management knew how to fix the the ride's problems, but they didn't want to pay for it. So instead of putting money into it they just closed it and the track is still empty.

There have been rumors of the PeopleMover coming back which would totally suck. I miss Rocket Rods. :(

RankoAnime

08-26-2005, 01:17 PM

I loved both the Peoplemover and Rocket Rods. I really don't care which one comes back. I just want ONE of them back because it's so depressing to see the empty track! :icon_cry:

Chris

08-26-2005, 01:22 PM

okey heres the deal, i was reading mousepad, (mouseplant.com/message boards) ans al lutz stated that the rocket rods could return sometime in 2006 or 2007 along with the finding nemo submarine ride. maybe it was a typo on the post, but do you think that its just a tad bit possible?

First of all, Al Lutz writes for Micechat, so it's likely what you read on Mouseplanet was something somebody else wrote. Be careful posting things like "Al Lutz said" if you aren't going to quote him specifically.

DaddyB

08-26-2005, 01:41 PM

Yes, I'd like a link or an address to whatever it was that you read... it just doesn't make sense from top to bottom.

Jayaraiza

08-26-2005, 02:53 PM

I will be happy when they finally do something with that track. At this point anything will be great.

Evan

08-26-2005, 04:10 PM

I don't think Al would mention anything like that without putting it in his articles. Just a few months ago, he already said Disney has plans for a new PeopleMover, so I highly doubt the Rocket Rods will come back. Rocket Rods did more bad than good, but I enjoyed it. I would much rather have the PeopleMover back, though.

spawn

08-26-2005, 04:24 PM

DaynaTheDisneyDork

08-26-2005, 04:45 PM

Actually, it's the Peoplemover that's comming back that I know of. My friend's mother works in the 'thinking' department and told me that they are already designing new vehicals for the PM. I don't know if she was pulling my leg, but it sounds pretty well thought ou to be untrue. Sorry to say, but I highly down Disney is bringing back to the rocket rods.

I liked them....

:(

Oh well

PeoplemoverMatt

08-26-2005, 06:21 PM

okey heres the deal, i was reading mousepad, (mouseplant.com/message boards) ans al lutz stated that the rocket rods could return sometime in 2006 or 2007 along with the finding nemo submarine ride. maybe it was a typo on the post, but do you think that its just a tad bit possible?

No.

I really wish the Rocket Rods would come back. I really hated the PeopleMover and I thought Rocket Rods was a big improvement.

That's like saying the Pinto was a real improvment on the '67 Mustang :icon_roll

-- Peoplemover "I'd say I wish the Rocket Rods were dead but they already are dead so hah! :tongue: " Matt

GreenLantern13

08-26-2005, 08:10 PM

There was a time when Al Lutz was in fact talking about announcing all of a big Tomorrowland project at the same time, possibly including the reintroduction of the peoplemovers. When they didn't announce the Nemo subs on the 5th Lutz had said it was most likely because they want to hold off and announce an even bigger announcement about tomorrowland later.

Disneyland_Wolf

08-26-2005, 08:21 PM

Tomorromland, the incomplete park. Just jking ;) I don't want the Rocket Rods to be back, just bring back the Peoplemover and called it 2.0. Make the cars go a bit faster, like 3 mph to 5 mph.

Piglet

08-26-2005, 08:31 PM

i really hope it comes back though cuz it really was better than the peoplemover
Oh do not let PeopleMoverMatt hear you!

Piglet

08-26-2005, 08:33 PM

OOps--too late =)

olgas234

08-26-2005, 08:50 PM

Atlantis21

08-26-2005, 08:59 PM

I really wish Rocket Rods would come back. I rode them back in 1999 and was instantly impressed with the ride. I had even after getting home made a model out of K'nex which probably had just as much down time as the real thing. From what I remember they had entertaining movies playing in the 3 hour line, and then the ride just blew me away. Of course then I was 13 and wasn't as critical over break downs as I would be now. Though it was very sad to come back to Disneyland and see an empty track and station, it really brought back some good memories.

I would love if they could improve on it and bring it back somehow, I don't know much about Peoplemover... but Rocket Rods sounds much better.

PeoplemoverMatt

08-26-2005, 09:00 PM

THATS IT matt ur getting on my last nerve ok if some people like the rocket rods and hate the ppl mover than thats there prob its just an opinion so just butt out of it im sorry if i offending cause everyone knows u adore the ppl mover but hey some ppl didnt some ppl did ok :mad: :icon_lol:
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If you have something to say to me, just PM me. Posts like that first break guidelines & second don't need to be said in public at all.

As far as opinions go, people have theirs, I have mine & we all discuss them. That's the whole point of the board. I have never personally attacked anyone on here for an opinion. I will debate the merits of arguments from time to time, but that's an entirely different concept.

You like Splash Mountain obviously so I ask you this: Let's say Disney closed & bulldozed Splash Mountain for a newer "more-thrilling" ride. Your favorite childhood ride, the ride you always looked forward to riding & couldn't get enough of, was just permanently taken away from you & you're 12 years old. Then, after having its budget slashed to bits, completed & opened, never operated without numerous breakdowns. Some months of SBNO status later, it ultimately closed for good. How would you view that ride? Think about it, before you react.

-- Peoplemover "Losing the Peoplemover was like losing a family member...I will never forgive those responsible" Matt

RU42

08-26-2005, 11:07 PM

Let's be civil folks. I see nothing wrong with PMM's post. He stated an opinion. Of course, all people are entitled to an opinion.

Also recall, typing in forums is usually the lowest form of communication. You cannot get inflection and other non-verbal queue's. Don't read too much into a post.

RU

barfownz

08-27-2005, 01:29 AM

Legend_S

08-27-2005, 02:48 AM

__________________

If you have something to say to me, just PM me. Posts like that first break guidelines & second don't need to be said in public at all.

As far as opinions go, people have theirs, I have mine & we all discuss them. That's the whole point of the board. I have never personally attacked anyone on here for an opinion. I will debate the merits of arguments from time to time, but that's an entirely different concept.

You like Splash Mountain obviously so I ask you this: Let's say Disney closed & bulldozed Splash Mountain for a newer "more-thrilling" ride. Your favorite childhood ride, the ride you always looked forward to riding & couldn't get enough of, was just permanently taken away from you & you're 12 years old. Then, after having its budget slashed to bits, completed & opened, never operated without numerous breakdowns. Some months of SBNO status later, it ultimately closed for good. How would you view that ride? Think about it, before you react.

-- Peoplemover "Losing the Peoplemover was like losing a family member...I will never forgive those responsible" Matt

I totally agree with you, if they did that to my fav. ride (Star Tours), I think I could never ride the ride they replaced it with. But back to the subject at hand, I really dont think that the RR will return, it was too faulty, and if they did, where would they put the queue??? I feel Peoplemover has a higher chance of getting back on its track then a RR 2.0, RR was a good idea at the time, but really doubt they'll spend more money on a less faulty RR. I really dont know what to think, if they did ALL they can to fix the RR or they just didnt try at all? But only the ppl that worked on it know for sure.

ScaryTrees

08-27-2005, 04:17 PM

I liked the Rocke Rods way better than the Peoplemover and I hope that they are gonna come back instead and I didnt mind the long lines cause that made most of the other lines shorter

Where'sYourLaughinPlace?

08-27-2005, 04:44 PM

My favorite ride is splash. So if they bull dozed splash, and replaced it with a ride that broke down just because somebody looked at it funny, I would be very mad. Unfortunately for me, I never had the chance to ride the peoplemover. So I cannot judge whether RR or PM was better. But I will say that I was not that impressed with RR. Speed up just a little...SLOW DOWN.....go a little faster again...SLOW DOWN!!!.....speed up...SLOW DOWN... JUst my opinion.

Disclaimer: I do not know for a fact if RR broke down just because you looked at it funny. But it would not suprise me based on what I have heard about the breakdowns.

the Pinto an improvement on the 67 Mustang?!?!?!?!?!! NOTHING CAN TOP THE 67 MUSTANG!!!!!!

Piglet

08-27-2005, 05:00 PM

the Pinto an improvement on the 67 Mustang?!?!?!?!?!! NOTHING CAN TOP THE 67 MUSTANG!!!!!!

Except maybe a 64 1/2 with original interior? That's what we have =) Oops, I'm getting off topic here......

DaddyB

08-29-2005, 10:27 AM

Please remember that an opposite opinion is not an attack on you.

Also, please spell out your words in proper english. We're not text messaging here. Abbreviations for rides and attractions are acceptable, but please refrain from "ppl" and "CU" etc...

thanks!
DaddyB
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RocketRodsluver123

09-07-2005, 02:20 PM

well i read on mouspad a few montths ago, i know that he writes for micechat, but like i said it could have been a typo, i also heard the peoplemover was coming back, but maybe he ment the rocketJETS on top of the peoplemover. i wish that they would talk more about it. but remeber anything is possible, its just alot of people want to live the experience on rocket rods once again. but if i see anything on rocket rods ill let u guys know, and ill find the exact address next time. sorry bout that guys.

PeoplemoverMatt

09-08-2005, 11:43 AM

The Rocket Rods you knew was a failure. It's simple physics: Rocket Rods can't exist on the current track. That hasn't changed since the ride was built & opened and they figured that out the hard way. Unfortunately, the Peoplemover had to die for a mistake that should have been found out in the planning stages. Argh.

The most likely thing to happen is the existing track to be re-enforced in a practical way and a working Peoplemover-esque ride system be installed. Unless Disney plans on closing the entire Tomorrowland to destroy the Peoplemover track that's there to build something new, you won't see anything like the Rocket Rods there again. That's just reality. Take a trip to FL & ride Test Track sometime, you'll have fun. :smile:

-- Peoplemover "Hey! Disney Exec's! People ride TTA @ WDW! Open your eyes! :icon_evil " Matt

linklewtt

09-08-2005, 03:07 PM

I will be happy when they finally do something with that track. At this point anything will be great.
even a "parade" like the It's a Small World clocl, just with Tomorrowland-themed "floats"?

linklewtt

09-08-2005, 03:14 PM

I have to admit also that the Rocket Rods was a cool ride and it did impress me the first time i rode it. but you have to admit that the sound was horrible! i remember being in a shop, i think the star trader or some shop that the peoplemover had a glass window to, and every 5 seconds you would hear that horrible zfffffffz sound, you know? i HATED that. anyone know what i mean?

ryguy222

09-09-2005, 08:22 PM

ok the rocket rods are dead they got rid of the designs and the actually vehicles, if they do make a test track where would all the indoor stuff go? more than likely they'll make it a people mover like at disney world/ It'll cost them a lot to bank the curve so unless they bank the curves u got yourself a slow ride

linklewtt

09-09-2005, 08:38 PM

^^ya and besides their putting in a test track-ish ride over at DCA in the now defunct Timon parking lot. besides can you imagine banked curves on the peoplemover track? totally unsafe!

PeoplemoverMatt

09-10-2005, 12:05 AM

^ It is not a certainty that the Cars attraction is coming to DCA.

-- PMM :cool:

linklewtt

09-10-2005, 12:09 AM

but it's more of a high possibility statement. SOMETHING is going there because construction IS taking place in that area.

ScaryTrees

09-10-2005, 12:38 AM

I liked the sounds the Rocket Rods used to make it made Tomorrowland better to me because it sounded more futuristic.

SurfedUpDane

09-10-2005, 08:51 PM

Actually, I heard that the rocketrods would be returning to Disneyland within the next 6 weeks. That's how long it took to put that attraction together right?

PeoplemoverMatt

09-10-2005, 09:32 PM

^ LOL.

-- Peoplemover "I'm sorry, that's too funny :icon_lol: " Matt

ryguy222

09-10-2005, 09:44 PM

Actually, I heard that the rocketrods would be returning to Disneyland within the next 6 weeks. That's how long it took to put that attraction together right?
if u could find a way for them to devolpe it and create the cars in less than six weeks how would they test it that quickly it takes months for that to happen, but if u found a way to do that u be a rich person

linklewtt

09-10-2005, 11:35 PM

^^i know lol. that's a TOTAL fabrication man

RocketRodsluver123

09-11-2005, 01:09 PM

but what if disney decides to bring rocket rods back? i seriously think the peoplemover wont, because of the fact that disneyland has enouph slow rides, like hunted mansion pirates, small world buzz lightyear, autopia, ect.. if the peoplemover came back the only fast /cool ride in tommorowland would be space mountain, so thats why i think a fast ride like rocket rods will go back on the track.

Masquerade

09-11-2005, 02:42 PM

^ Star Tours?

Light Speed to Endor! WHOOOOOSH

Imagineer Boy

09-11-2005, 02:51 PM

okey heres the deal, i was reading mousepad, (mouseplant.com/message boards) ans al lutz stated that the rocket rods could return sometime in 2006 or 2007 along with the finding nemo submarine ride. maybe it was a typo on the post, but do you think that its just a tad bit possible?

You misread. Al Lutz was reffering to the Rocket JETS. You know, the where the Astro Orbieter, type ride used to be? Anyway, he was saying that they're planning to relocate Astro Orbiter over the old people mover station.

linklewtt

09-11-2005, 03:14 PM

besides, if Rocket Rods came back to the old PM track, there's no queue space! all the queue space has been turned into BLAB and Store Command so having a guaranteed long line attraction there in Tomorrowland would be so inefficient and dumb.

Stephen

09-13-2005, 04:35 PM

I DOUBT IT... Rocket Rods was the worst ride ever installed in Disneyland BESIDES NEMO and I know it sucks even now because any ride that replaces my favorite is bad from the start. Anyway, I dont think it will come back because the peoplemover is loved more than rocket rods, at least I think... I'll have to do a poll on this.

Clotho

09-13-2005, 06:14 PM

I would be so happy if the Peoplemover came back! It was the perfect ride to catch your breath, take a load off, cool off with some breeze in your hair, get a unique view of the land...and my favorite was getting to see the inside of Space Mountain! Imagine, with the new RockIt Mountain slated for next spring, getting to people move through that area, and seeing psychdelic lighting and rock n' roll pouring out. How fun. :)

linklewtt

09-13-2005, 08:16 PM

^^hey, isn't Rockit Mountain still a rumor?

GreenLantern13

09-13-2005, 08:52 PM

Isn't Imagining, the people mover coming back, and the rumor mill itself hypothetical? :P

ScaryTrees

09-13-2005, 10:08 PM

If they did bring back the Rocket Rods wouldnt it be possible for them to make a new queue underground or something?

PeoplemoverMatt

09-13-2005, 10:19 PM

^ Underground queue is still there last I heard. He's referring to the part of the queue that went through Circle-Vision and what is now BLAB. If anything returns to that track, it'd be easy to just remove the ODV cart & planters and knock back through the wall. In other words, put the entrance back where it was. :smile:

-- Peoplemover "There is something of a personal irony there in putting a churro cart at Peoplemover's former entrance" Matt

linklewtt

09-13-2005, 11:42 PM

well ya PMM, but that will not be enough room for something like Rocket Rods. Remember how long the line was the last time it was here? it had to take up the ENTIRE space of BLAB! that's a really long line and just using the old PM entrance would not cut it.

However, if PM came back, then probably the old line would be able to hold people

PeoplemoverMatt

09-14-2005, 12:09 AM

^ The Rocket Rods are not coming back, accept it.

-- Peoplemover "Where's that head bashing against brick wall smiley?" Matt

ScaryTrees

09-14-2005, 12:22 AM

What I meant was that if they were to bring back the rocket rods then wouldnt they just be able to add to the underground queue thats already there since there isnt anywhere else to put it? I'm not saying that they are gonna come back Im just saying that it isnt impossible for them to come back.

Atlantis21

09-14-2005, 07:02 AM

^ I wouldn't say anything is nessisarily impossible, particularly for a Disney park. Now if this was a Paramount Park, then yes: impossible ;)

I find it odd that things like "Rockit Mountain" are still rumors, yet things like Rocket Rods never returning is solid fact :rolleyes:

linklewtt

09-14-2005, 02:18 PM

^ The Rocket Rods are not coming back, accept it.

-- Peoplemover "Where's that head bashing against brick wall smiley?" Matt

Dude don't tell me to accept it. I do accept it. i was just commenting that you said that if anything returned to the PM track they could just reopen the original entrance, which is true unless they put a brand new ride that would obviously have long lines (LIKE Rocket Rods was--used here as an example, not as a claim that it will return). in that case, then no, the original entrance would not work because there would not be enough room for the line.

but ya, Rocket Rods isn't coming back so people in favor of its return, I'm sorry

ScaryTrees

09-14-2005, 04:33 PM

How do we know that the Rocket Rods wont return or a different ride like them? I think that the only way they would bring back a slow ride is if they make it based off a movie or something that would make people want to go on it. I just thought of something that might be a good idea if they can figure out a way to pull it off but why not build a ramp that conects the Autopia track to the PM track and you can drive over Tomorrowland? I doubt it would ever happen or even work but it would be really kool

Executioner

09-14-2005, 04:41 PM

I like that idea. It would be cool to drive on that track, and you would be going slow to. Doubt it would happen, but nice idea.

linklewtt

09-14-2005, 04:41 PM

^^it would be cool but there's as much a chance of that happening as there is of the Rocket Rods coming back. and what's this underground queue? i thought it only went through the BLAB areas

ScaryTrees

09-14-2005, 04:45 PM

Pretty much the whole queue went through the BLAB area but after you leave that building you go underground and up a spiral staircase type thing up to the loading area. I think thats how it worked Ive only been on it twice and thats how I remembered it

Executioner

09-14-2005, 04:55 PM

After leaving the old CircleVision theatre you went in a tunnel that went downstairs but not for very long and then came up behind the store and then up more stairs to the loading queue. It looked like the tunnel was just a backstage access area for CM's to come and go and to reach some storage rooms or something. I hated how they had designed the whole queue for the Rocket Rods. Very poorly done and a big waste of space for a line. To go from something so cool and grand as the CircleVision to that was just depressing. CircleVision was a one of a kind thing and very cool to watch.

GreenLantern13

09-14-2005, 07:59 PM

The downstairs tunnel was definately small. It's possible they might use it should something ever come back.. maybe they could just take over the extra star tours queue in that side room, and then from there could either form a line towards the middle of tomorrowland like peoplemover with the speed ramps back, or go underground to that tunnel and then go up like in rocket rods.

I don't think "Rocket Rods" will ever return, just like "New Tomorrowland" won't even though there are all these rumored/already come to fruition plans to recreate the land. That's just because of the negative connotation that goes with the names now. It doesn't rule out a ride that goes a bit faster than the peoplemover did though. I get the feeling they'd want to go back to the Peoplemover name just because of the positive attitudes to it returning. I just hope they don't use Tomorrowland Transit Authority, just because it's not that hard to think up new names for these things and if they really had to just take wdw's name then they have really lost all sense of creativity.

PeoplemoverMatt

09-14-2005, 09:03 PM

I find it odd that things like "Rockit Mountain" are still rumors, yet things like Rocket Rods never returning is solid fact :rolleyes:

Odd as it may seem, it is solid fact. My thing with Rock It Mountain rumors have been that people have been coming up with a bunch of stuff about RockIt Mountain when the only concrete stuff we have about it is a sign that appears to be changeable. People are making their own conjecture and other readers misinterpret it as fact.

I tell you Rocket Rods is not coming back because, as I have said many times, the ride's design itself was fundamentally flawed. It was removed permanently because the track literally would have collapsed with riders on it if it had been allowed to keep running. How 'bout those headlines eh? The track was fracturing under the stress the cars were imposing on it. For that reason, it simply can't exist on the current track ever again. Therefore you will never see it again as long as that track that's there still stands. Maybe I'm wrong here but I'm callin' it like I see it.

-- Peoplemover "Where the opinions are always backed up :cool: " Matt

RocketRodsluver123

09-21-2005, 05:18 PM

no no lord so much wrong with that comment. the track was not fractured at all, the rods kept breaking down, due to low maintenance, and for that they took it out. cynthia harris said a lie that the track was fractured, and, the truth is rods will come back, it just wont be called rocket rods anymore, it will be known as peoplemover2.0, the new version of transportation. but rocket rods is a better name.

Legend_S

09-21-2005, 09:32 PM

linklewtt

09-21-2005, 09:49 PM

ScaryTrees

09-21-2005, 10:21 PM

RocketRodsluver123

10-03-2005, 04:22 PM

okay, heres the deal, everyone reply what ride you want to see on the unused peoplemover/RocketRods track. would you like to see the family attraction peoplemover, or the high speed and enjoyable Rocket Rods. you never know, one of the two are going to come back!

RocketRodsluver123

10-03-2005, 04:24 PM

I want the rocket rods to come back. it was disneys best ride, and if it doesnt come back, everyone who liked it, will still have that memory of riding it for the last time.

barfownz

10-03-2005, 04:32 PM

people mover! it was more interesting, but yet rocket rods were fun too

so i have to say BOTH!

Brer Rabbit

10-03-2005, 04:36 PM

I've only been on the peoplemover, but rocket rods looks fun too, sooo.....i have to say both.:smile:

dreamscometrue2005

10-03-2005, 04:47 PM

I would say Rocket Rods. I have vague memory of people mover. I was little when I rode it...It might be fun to try now though. But I have the memory of the last time I rode it ...It broke down...LOL and me and my sisters were half asleep when finally it started up. So I want to ride it real bad again.

Ratty12345

10-03-2005, 05:25 PM

Rocket Rods! Its so fast and tight, and Fun! :smile:

napoleon

10-03-2005, 07:44 PM

The Peoplemover was fun but the Rocket Rod's were the best.

TopCat8

10-03-2005, 08:06 PM

Ummm...I liked Rocket Rods better. I know it broke down a lot. But I never got stuck on it and I went on it about three times. Always the last ride of the night.:smile:

EDIT: Yay!!!!! That was my 400th post!!!!

ATSF&DLRR

10-03-2005, 08:28 PM

I say Peoplemover cause it was a reflexing ride and you was able to sit down and rest youy feet and enjoyed the view.
It made be slow but it was fun to watch everyone in Tomorrowland enjoying themself.
I did enjoyed the Rocket Rods but it always broken down and you could to enjoyed to view everything was going by so quickly.

So I say again Peoplemover should come back to Tomorrowland.

CLASSIC HM

10-03-2005, 08:33 PM

I don't remember going on the Peoplemover at all. I was fortunate to have been on the Rocket Rods for three times. As long as they put something on the track, it doesn't matter to me.

I'll be back in ten days.

disneyfreak59

10-03-2005, 09:05 PM

Rocket Rods!

Stephen

10-03-2005, 09:20 PM

PEOPLEMOVER!! was the greatest... how does Rocket Rods present a sensable futuristic reason of transportation? Peoplemover does. By the way, this is supposed to be a demonstration land of the future, not a thrill ride, jules verne-themed-pixar-involved division, and so far I'm dissapointed... stupid "New, updated, BETTER tomorrowland........." I'm not even going to capatilize the name tomorrowland untill they reopen the Peoplemover and come to their sences and bring back the original Submarine Voyage, cuz I can tell: nemo will be a bomb.

Masquerade

10-03-2005, 10:19 PM

I never went on the PeopleMover. Maybe I have, but I don't remember it. I thought Rocket Rods was a lot of fun, though.

But, alas, I choose PeopleMover to return. If the world built more family-friendly rides rather than Z0MG!!1111 THR1LL5!111!!!111 rides, the world would be a much happier place. :smile:

Indy #1 Fan

10-03-2005, 10:34 PM

I was on the Peoplemover once, but I was too young to remember. I did go on the Rocket Rods only once and it was amusing. I'd want the Peoplemover to come back.

leaderc

10-04-2005, 07:28 AM

Peoplemover! It was relaxing, the view was great! I loved being able to see in to Star Tours, the Starcade, and 360 Circlevision. The line was almost always short and it was a great way to rest the feet. Also, for the Peoplemover fans anyone remember on the flat escalators going up to the station, if you stood on the far right or left the rollers would give an *excellent* foot massage?
Charles

Lion Sleeps Tonight

10-04-2005, 11:34 AM

Bring back the Peoplemover. Great scenic and relaxing ride. I think I liked it a lot because it was a long ride and I thought it was special that you could look into some of the attractions.

I liked Rocket Rods as well, but it kept breaking down. Also if felt as if it were a faster Peoplemover, but you weren't able to enjoy things as much.

The Not-Lit Meteor

10-04-2005, 05:33 PM

Rocket Rods would be awesome if it came back, but I'd rather have PeopleMover back if they don't find a way to make it more reliable... But again, Rocket Rods was my FAVORITE ride in DIsneyland when it was open, I'm so sad it closed...

Stephen

10-04-2005, 05:57 PM

I've thought about making a PeopleMover called "The Tomorrowland Department in Transportation" where it's like the PPM but it has different cars, but it has, instead of pitch black, pointless tunnels, it looks like you are going through air conditioned tubes across scorching deserts, and through the bottom of the ocean, and just for fun, in that scene, lol you see the Nautilus vrrr (is this a word?!) by.

SurfedUpDane

10-04-2005, 07:45 PM

Napoleon can be agreed with. It was fun to ride the people mover, but it didn't go fast. They never went fast!
We want the rocket rods!

RocketRodsluver123

10-05-2005, 06:04 PM

ROCKET RODS!!!
everyone that wants rocket rods to come back, ur all my best friends!!

gusgus

10-05-2005, 08:18 PM

i'm going with People Mover. I remember i was a very young kid and being my first time on it and i was scared to death as it was entering the tunnel but other than that it was cool and very different, wish it came back.

wheresmytiara?

10-06-2005, 02:27 PM

Personally, I doubt either one of these rides will come back. And if by some slim chance they do, they'll have a new theme; so you may get something similar to peoplemover/rocket rods, but not exactly like the original. Kinda how I'm predicitng the whole Finding Nemo/Sub Voyage thing will go

PeoplemoverMatt

10-06-2005, 10:51 PM

^ There's is a high probability that if it does come back, it will be movie-based, and I hate it! Someone needs to collectively slap all those managers around and scream some sense into them. Not every new attraction needs a movie-based theme! Not every new attraction needs to carry with it a promise to increase yearly attendance by 30% to be worth building!!

-- Peoplemover "Kids can be just as enthralled, if not moreso, by the Peoplemover as they would be a $100M E-ticket attraction...I was" Matt

RocketRodsluver123

10-10-2005, 05:48 PM

rocket rods was waybetter

terryb

10-10-2005, 08:18 PM

The Rocket Rods were slower than I wished they would be (not counting breakdowns), More sound effect zoom than real zoom.
I would like to see the People Mover come back as transportation between the Parks. Plus a second Park Hopper ride that is much, much, much faster. I may be 50 years old, but I'm still one of the biggest kids in the park.
So I say both, but for different reasons.

barkerbird

10-10-2005, 08:26 PM

Well, I never rode either ride but I enjoy listenening to the PM ride through music and I like to see stuff from different point of views. IE- Like going into space mountain or making your way through Star Tours. But Rocketrods seems like a really cool thrill ride which Disney kinda needs. So I also say both should come back, some how, some way :wink:
-J.M.R.

Space Mountain Mike

10-10-2005, 08:39 PM

Someone needs to collectively slap all those managers around and scream some sense into them. Not every new attraction needs a movie-based theme!What you said! I heard they're going to add Jack Sparrow to Pirates Of The Caribbean. That's just worthless and weak.

Pinocchio85

10-10-2005, 10:29 PM

I would love the Rocket Rods to come back. I loved that they were fun and fast and not super intense like most coasters today. They were much more popular than the PM ever was. I never liked the PM and I thought RR was a huge improvement. It's too bad they were too cheap to do the RR right!

Disneyland_Wolf

10-11-2005, 04:57 PM

Two words: Money! Money!

To get both of them back.

Disneyland Donna

10-12-2005, 10:42 AM

People Mover... was a great ride to rest your feet, enjoy the view and take good pictures... just didn't like the "Tron" part...

pixiedreams4ever

10-12-2005, 11:31 AM

I enjoyed people mover. Nice and relaxing.

The_real_simmer_3

10-12-2005, 02:09 PM

one word, people mover!

Evan

10-12-2005, 07:03 PM

lol, one word, yet you spaced it! :P

PeopleMover! I would love to see it back.

Disneyland Fan

10-12-2005, 07:08 PM

Peoplemover... No question.

Disneyland_Wolf

10-13-2005, 06:06 PM

The PeopleMover!!

RocketRodsluver123

10-14-2005, 09:09 AM

hey where can i find a video of rocket rods at, because you cant click on it on vf, so does anyone know?

Chris

10-14-2005, 09:18 AM

Rocket Rods video:

http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/gallery/showimage.php?i=1492&c=39

Mikokat

10-14-2005, 01:03 PM

Peoplemover or bust! The Rocket Rods sucked! I never want to see that horrible, horrible sight again!

RocketRodsluver123

11-10-2005, 03:19 PM

what is really wrong. okay i have read alot of newspapers, and stuff like articles about why the rocket rods were closed, and they all said, that it was due to constant break downs, due to a low budget?

would someone please tell me the real reason why the rocket rods were taken out?

RocketRodsluver123

11-10-2005, 06:18 PM

why do you think nothing is on the track yet? i think its because disneyland is taking their time, to figure out how to make the rocket rods work on the track proplerly.

olgas234

11-10-2005, 06:23 PM

i just heard from Jan that she found out on musepad that rockets rods are coming back yes!

Chris

11-10-2005, 06:24 PM

There are already SEVERAL Rocket Rods Rumor Threads. Please don't start a new topic everytime there is another rumor. Topic closed.

Stephen

11-10-2005, 06:32 PM

okey heres the deal, i was reading mousepad, (mouseplant.com/message boards) ans al lutz stated that the rocket rods could return sometime in 2006 or 2007 along with the finding nemo submarine ride. maybe it was a typo on the post, but do you think that its just a tad bit possible?
You shouldn't just jump to conclusions because one person who doesn't work for Disney (?) days somthing. I'm not insulting you but I'm just saying.

Stephen

11-10-2005, 06:59 PM

well it was closed because of one or more of these things:

1 It broke down alot
2 It costed alot of money to maintence
3 Lack of popularity! Nobody liked it! So they were making no buisness on it.

PeoplemoverMatt

11-10-2005, 10:31 PM

Track fractures & other structural concerns were why it was finally removed. It was later deemed a flawed design, that the supports were unable to hold the stress of the many heavy breaking points and turns along the route. Hence the still lingering echos to bank the turns.

-- Peoplemover "Open your eyes and look around you, don't close your eyes, it will astound you" Matt

Chris

11-11-2005, 09:57 AM

This thread is for the discussion of the Rocket Rods, why they closed, their rumored return and nostalgia. Please do not discuss the Peoplemover here, since there is already an existing thread especially for that.

111702

11-11-2005, 09:58 AM

Here is a solution...FIX THE BREAKDOWNS! FIX THE CAPACITY! FIX THE LONG LINES! FIX EVERYTHING!

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE ROCKET RODS! I've even been on it 10 times, which is very rare considering how long it lasted! But all of the above were BIG problems and led to it's ultimate demise. That's why they need to FIX it.

disneyfreak59

11-11-2005, 06:10 PM

i just heard from Jan that she found out on musepad that rockets rods are coming back yes!

mmm yeah never said that. never went on mousepad or whatever to find that out. i heard from someone else, and copied his bulletin. just to clear it up with you all.

-jan

k_peek_2000

11-11-2005, 06:19 PM

Are You Ready For Some Ride Overlayage Madness!??!?!??!!

RocketRodsluver123

11-13-2005, 11:20 AM

i highly doubt that structural problems is what terminated the rocket rods, because, every article/newspaper that talks about the rocket rods subject, never said anything about the track being damaged. so i would like to know who was the person to star the whole ooo the track was fractured thing.
many people have said this, and i agree, MONEY MONEY MONEY if enough money is used to make the rocket rods attraction capable, then the rocketrods can be a permanent ride?

ryguy222

11-13-2005, 11:32 AM

firstly, you can't always trust the media. They lie all the time its part of thier job. disney may have closed it because they we afraid the structure might become unstable. They don't need the track to start getting cracks. Then people will be afraid to walk under the track. The RR track goes over many rides, if it broke they would loose lots of money, on rebulding. If they decided to bank the turns they might as well tear the track down and rebuild it

RocketRodsluver123

11-13-2005, 12:07 PM

ya, i guess so the article people do lie. but i find it hard to believe that the track is damaged. i just hope that the rocket rods do come back, and the peoplemover burns in hell, but hey, disney is known for making magical things happening, so bringing the rocket rods back, would be a great magical moment for many poeople.

ryguy222

11-13-2005, 12:13 PM

how did the Q work for Rocket rods i know it went into the BLAB bulding but did it go under ground and then come up at the station? is that how ppm worked?

RocketRodsluver123

11-13-2005, 12:21 PM

no the poeoplemover had speed ramps right under the loading stations, and the rocket rods line was blab, but it was partially replaced by the buzz lightyear astro blasters, the circle visions theatre, is the buzz ride, but as of the spiral staircaise under the rocketrods track, i dont know where that is connected now.

ryguy222

11-13-2005, 03:14 PM

did the line for RR go under ground?

111702

11-13-2005, 04:43 PM

did the line for RR go under ground?

Yes it did actually! Do you remember, if you ever went on it, that there were stairs that went down, then up again? That was probably when you went underground.

Also, think about it. There is no building connecting the center hub of Tomorrowland and the now BLAB building. So hw would people get from here to there? Underground of course!

IMPORTANT:

If they bring back Rocket Rods, or the PeopleMover, how will guests get onto the ride if BLAB is where the line used to be? Is there another building they will use to go underground?

Atlantis21

11-13-2005, 07:22 PM

^Well I'm sure they could create some sort of building to go behind the BLAB building. It would have to be long and thin, but I'm sure they could pull it off somehow if they really wanted to/are planning on it.

CLASSIC HM

11-13-2005, 08:22 PM

Rocket Rods have gone the way of the Skyway, America Sings, Country Bears, and so on. It's never coming back.

ryguy222

11-15-2005, 03:43 PM

Well the PPM had speed ramps right on the hub. Their must be a tunnel connecting them somwhere does anyone have pics of it

ryguy222

11-15-2005, 03:45 PM

one more thing. HISTA is outdated and is becoming very unpopular how about they make a new tunnel like they did when rocket rods opned and start the line there!

111702

11-15-2005, 05:02 PM

one more thing. HISTA is outdated and is becoming very unpopular how about they make a new tunnel like they did when rocket rods opned and start the line there!

Well, actually they COULD use the HISTA building! Great Idea!:p

ryguy222

11-15-2005, 05:17 PM

well i suppose so if you lift the section with the seats you get a big seven foot well full of water pipes and the motors to controll the movement on the seats.

111702

11-15-2005, 05:22 PM

well i suppose so if you lift the section with the seats you get a big seven foot well full of water pipes and the motors to controll the movement on the seats.

Simple solution! They just have to take out EVERYTHING from the ride and make a giant queue like last time, but less cramped and cooler looking!:p

ryguy222

11-15-2005, 05:55 PM

111702

11-15-2005, 08:57 PM

yes but then that would eliminate anymore 3d movies unless they turn the snow white musical bulding into phillar magic. so i guess that'd work but how would they make a new tunnel without runing any of the pathways how did they make the RR tunnel i know it wasn't there until they opned RR.

AAAAH! More questions!:eek:

Ok, like you said, turn Fantasyland Theater into PhillarMagic (or make Star Tours 3-D), then like I said, rip out the entire builing and make a cool queue there! I don't really know how they will make the tunnel, but hey, it's Disney we're talking about here! They can use their imagination!:wink:

RocketRodsluver123

11-16-2005, 03:54 PM

100 dollars says that rocket rods (or a fast attraction like it) will come back, who wants 2 bet me???

RocketRodsluver123

11-17-2005, 09:55 AM

:icon_cry: rocket rods was the best ride in the history of that disneyland park, and its suck an eyesore that the track is empty, and trees are overgrown on the track, and it hurts alot to see the track just rotting.:icon_cry:

Atlantis21

11-17-2005, 02:21 PM

I'm sure they have something planned wheather fast like Rocket Rods or slow like People Mover. Disney just doesn't seem like they would purposely leave the track empty and not remove it for this long without a good reason. They like to take time with their new rides and it's only been 4 years and I'm sure they'd take extra time to insure they won't have another fluke...

k_peek_2000

11-18-2005, 05:08 PM

I think this thread is more of a smypathy for rocket rods thread that anything else. Its not coming back, it barley lasted. They could of done better.

AlexLoup

11-24-2005, 06:47 PM

Excatly, most people here seem to support the People mover. I'm one of them since I have never been on the Rocket Rods and I heard that they weren't great anyway.

Another thing I noticed, most people under a certain age (I think about 17 now) Don't really remember People Mover and so they prefer the Rocket Rods. As for some of us who remember the People mover want it back over Rocket rods.

And I said most not all.

Chris

11-25-2005, 12:18 AM

Many of you have been asking about this page. It's finally up:

http://visionsfantastic.com/main.php?page=rocketrods

The Not-Lit Meteor

11-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Executioner

12-01-2005, 10:17 AM

...well there is a good chance we won't see anything on those tracks again... I mean lok at the Submarines.

Well the subs are coming back. The same subs, just a different theme. Unlike WDW's subs which are gone forever.

dctrdez

12-01-2005, 02:34 PM

I say Hybridize Peoplemover and Rocket Rods into something moderately thrilling yet not physically demanding. Or just rebuild Peoplemover and pack the cars and tunnels with interactive multimedia technology; "Below you is the main entrance to Tomorrowland! Touch the screen here to view Walt Disney's opening of Tomorrowland speech,"...thinking along the lines of Universal Studios Hollywood Tram Tour where all of the tram units are equipped with monitors, etc.

"Below you is Star Tours, and as of 2007, is offering nonstop service to exciting new destinations including Tatooine, Naboo, Hoth, and Coruscant." *corresponding video screen depicts StarSpeeder 3000 vehicles flying to such destinations.*

disney_fanatic

12-15-2005, 11:13 AM

rocket rods was awesome...well it never broke down when I was there, but if they bring that or the people movers back...where will the entrence be...because didn't they turn the enterance into astroblasters?

PeoplemoverMatt

12-15-2005, 11:41 AM

They turned the Rods entrance into BLAB & they turned Peoplemover's entrance into a planter with a churro cart in front of it. In theory, they could easily punch back through the planter/new wall.

-- PMM :cool:

disneyguy

12-15-2005, 01:46 PM

Yes, the Peoplemover didn't enter though a building, It entered via a electric ramp.

kennyrules

12-15-2005, 04:04 PM

Although I wish Rocket Rods was coming back, it will most likely be the Peoplemover. The peoplemover would be easier to make an entrance for and wouldn't break down as much. However, if they advertise the peoplemover a lot, and make it look like the next biggest attraction, I could easily see it getting hour long lines, which would mean they have to have a place for a big line. I do want something fast like Rocket Rods on the track, but at this point I would love just about anything. And a Peoplemover is good because anyone can go on it and get a tour of Tomorrowland. I'm just saying, try not to get your hopes up for a new Rocket Rods (but I know I can't help it:wink:)

NJacobus

12-15-2005, 05:06 PM

I used t work on the rods

kennyrules

12-15-2005, 06:25 PM

You used to work on them but didn't get to ride them:icon_shoc . That stinks. It was a really fun ride because you got to see all of Tomorrowland, and it was pretty fast. It got huge lines though, and was broken half the time. I still loved it no matter what, though.

Stephen

12-15-2005, 08:08 PM

You know...

the Rocket Rods was a great ride except for a few major flaws:

1: It took over a once awesome attraction
2: It broke down alot
3: Long lines
4: Slow downs
5: The track layout is not very good for the kind of vehical.

linklewtt

12-16-2005, 02:28 PM

^^those are major problems...perhaps they should have thought it through completely

oh ya, you couldn't see the whole park on them either

ryguy222

12-23-2005, 02:10 PM

NJagocubs what did you do on the Rocket Rods, operator, dude who stands at the front and says when the ride was borken/awnswer questions. Is it true the whole ride controll system was ran off a win. 98!

PeoplemoverMatt

12-23-2005, 02:17 PM

^ It's possible seeing as Windows 98 would have been the top of the line computer OS at the time.

-- PMM :cool:

Atlantis21

12-23-2005, 04:08 PM

That could explain a few things...

"Illegal Action has taken place, MUST SHUT DOWN!":icon_roll

NJacobus

12-23-2005, 05:35 PM

did anyone every work on the rods

NJacobus

12-23-2005, 05:42 PM

Well, when the ride first opened, I was the operator for about 3 weeks, but I was then moved up to...well I don't remember what i was actually called, but basically, since the ride had so many troules, and I was the most knowledgable of the ride, I was put in a posistion where i was to find out what gave it so many troubles and fix them...............................with a tiny budget.

The ride was not run on a Windows 98, but where di you hear that...the circlevision video was remastered to be played on a 98 which could be controled from the potium in the room.......should I just start a forum about my whole ROCKET RODS story

disneyson

12-24-2005, 06:05 AM

Please and thank you!

ryguy222

12-24-2005, 11:41 AM

ok i heard that from a few ppl on here that most likely heard it from westcoaster

Wendell

12-26-2005, 06:10 PM

On a website called Yesterland, they said that the Rods were supposed to be a West Coast version of Test Track! If I could choose one ride from EPCOT, it would probably be that. The reason why the attraction's tires kept wearing out was because of the curves. The Peoplemover track was not made for Rocket Rods. As a result, the Rods had to slow down at each turn, speed up again, and slow down again. The cars should have accomadated more people. I think the track should have been reinforced so it wouldn't cracked, and most importantly, THE TURNS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANKED!! That means that the car would travel up on an inclined wall on each turn to prevent slowing and wearing out the tires. That would have been cheap for Disney if they would have stopped pouring all their money into cheap sequels to classic movies and put it into a ride that had great potential.

Despite of my love of Test Track at EPCOT, I have to say I would rather have the Peoplemover return! Perhaps with a magnetic system instead of tire driven transportation, and completely enclosed in glass so some amateur stuntman doesn't jump out and get crushed!

linklewtt

12-27-2005, 12:44 AM

RollingBoulder

12-27-2005, 12:50 AM

I would love to have TTA over here. I would ride that thing all day (with breaks to ride Indy and Space of course :wink: ).

Man, I hope they originally had more plans with the Rocket Rods if they really wanted it to be a West Coast Test Track. Even with banked turns and whatnot, it would still be nothing like it. I don't think they have room for anything like that in Tomorrowland.

PeoplemoverMatt

12-27-2005, 02:27 PM

If they ever did install something called TTA, I'll do the very same thing I did with WDW's TTA - never call it TTA :wink:.

-- PEOPLEMOVER "Y'know, Tomorrowland Transit Authority, sounds more like a union than a ride" Matt

linklewtt

12-27-2005, 11:35 PM

i think, to pay homage to the classic ride and its fans, they would install something exactly like TTA but call it the Peoplemover. Would that work, PMM? i'd like it

PeoplemoverMatt

12-28-2005, 10:12 AM

Yeah I didn't have any problem with the Peoplemover in WDW masquerading as TTA. I had a rather *ahem* touching moment walking up the speedramps and riding that thing. If that was installed at Disneyland, roof and all, then my Peoplemover would have come back to me, no matter what name it calls itself. :smile:

-- Peoplemover "And a decade + of hope would be fulfilled :biggrin:" Matt

disneycraze045

12-29-2005, 11:23 AM

They could do that, but I think they should still try to put something fast on the old PeopleMover, now Rocet Rods, track. Besides, the transportation of tomorrow will be faster than Tomorrowland Transit Authority and the PeopleMover.

If that means completely redoing the track, lilke linkelwtt said, then so be it. A ride like the Test Track would be awesome in California.

Executioner

12-29-2005, 02:30 PM

...Besides, the transportation of tomorrow will be faster than Tomorrowland Transit Authority and the PeopleMover..

Even in the future there will be a need to slow down and relax. I don't believe everything is going to be fast. We as humans will get tired and or will just want to take our time.

RocketRodsluver123

01-02-2006, 02:46 PM

peoplemover is no longer futeristic

Executioner

01-02-2006, 03:09 PM

peoplemover is no longer futeristic

It can be. The concept isn't, but the technology to do so can be. If they decide to remodel the ride with a new look. Even our cars aren't that futuristic. The same concept applies. A combustion engine, gears and wheels. Same as when it started, just new technology to improve how it works and looks.

disneyguy

01-02-2006, 03:37 PM

peoplemover is no longer futeristic
Autopia isn't very futureistic!

ryguy222

01-02-2006, 04:09 PM

^^ neither is the monorail
how bout a ride that uses magnetic levititation. If you think about no matter what happens they will have to redo the track. The RR was closed 1. because of the wear and tear on the vehicles. 2 the track wasn't built for fast vehicles, it was built for slow moving vehicles.

mrskellington

01-03-2006, 07:58 PM

neither is.....................uh I'm lost lol

Robert Fuller

01-03-2006, 11:17 PM

I liked the People Mover, but I LOVED the Rocket Rods. Heck, I even loved the queue for the Rocket Rods! Those three old cartoons they showed were fantastic, and they made me giddy every time I saw them. And then we got a CircleVision show WHILE WE WERE WAITING IN LINE! How cool is that?!

What they should do is bulldoze Innoventions (does anyone really like that thing? Somehow, the entire point of the attraction got lost in translation from WDW... and the carousel lost its purpose when America Sings bit the dust) and use that as the queue/load area for a new Rocket Rods ride. Or at least a Rocket Rods-esque ride. Actually, I'd be even happier if they used that space for Test Track.

mrskellington

01-04-2006, 08:03 PM

oh yea a test track for DLR - can see it now -

Executioner

01-10-2006, 10:31 AM

It won't happen. It is not movie based. HAHAHA!!!!

111702

01-14-2006, 03:40 PM

After watching some videos of Tokyo DisneySea's Journey to the Center of the Earth, I thought, "Why can't that be like Rocket Rods?"

It just needs to be rethemed and it would be just like JTTCOTE (long name!)!:icon_shoc

Legend_S

01-14-2006, 05:29 PM

It won't happen. It is not movie based. HAHAHA!!!!

Lol... Sad thing is, its true...:(

111702

01-14-2006, 05:52 PM

Lol... Sad thing is, its true...:(

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! HOLD ON!:icon_shoc

What about Space Mountain, Innoventions, Autopia, It's A Small World, Big Thunder Mountain, and the Matterhorn?:icon_roll

SEE? Rocket Rods (or something similar) could happen!:p

RollingBoulder

01-14-2006, 05:58 PM

^Those rides were built before Disney got all cross-promotion crazy. I don't know what they were thinking with Innoventions. :icon_roll

PeoplemoverMatt

01-15-2006, 01:18 AM

What about Space Mountain, Innoventions, Autopia, It's A Small World, Big Thunder Mountain, and the Matterhorn?

Innoventions exists because of all the sponsorship & product placement revenue it generates. That's why you'll see it fully staffed & open no matter what, Disney has contracts they must own up to.

Other than that, those others you mentioned were all designed, approved & built before this obessession with movie-based themeing began. So it's a pretty good chance you'll never see anything like them again, which is a shame because that's what always used to set Disneyland apart. They went the extra mile to be innovative and different. Now unfortunately they're pretty much just like Universal & Paramount, just with their own brand. Rocket Rods was a kind of last-gasp of the uniquely-themed attraction. A decade later, that is all but dead.

-- Peoplemover "Doesn't give Peoplemover much chance to return either unfortunately :frown:" Matt

Robert Fuller

01-15-2006, 02:00 AM

This is all true, but are we forgetting that none of the original DCA attractions (save for It's Tough to Be a Bug... and Muppet Vision, I guess, which is based on a TV show and a series of movies) were based on a movie?

PeoplemoverMatt

01-15-2006, 02:14 AM

You're right Robert, much of them were not, and that's mostly because they're focused on conveying the California theme. However, it's general opinion that DCA attractions are are either mostly devoid of themeing whatsoever, or are themed horribly out of place. DCA was built as cheaply as possible, many consider it to be a total joke, and not a single soul on this earth truely believe it's worth it to pay the same admission to it as Disneyland. If the powers that be now had their way, the park would be re-named "The Disney Presentation of a Pixar Animated Studios Theme Park".

Though, to be fair, each & every attraction/land with the CA theme qualifies them as uniquely themed rides. And some people actually want to ride them by golly! Perhaps those exec's who refuse to approve any project not based on a financially successful movie should notice that?

-- Peoplemover "Ironic how people love to mock DCA, and yet the most successful attraction of WDW's bringing clones from everywhere came from DCA" Matt

RocketRodsluver123

01-16-2006, 04:18 PM

^^bank turns would have been better, but then again i think the peoplemover track could NEVER accomodate that kind of stress. no, their best bet was to turn the PMM into the Tomorrowland Transit Authority like over at Magic Kingdom. And the cars were able to hold only 5 people cuz they had to be long rather than wide like Test Track's cars. because the PMM track is considerably skinnier than Test Track's, the cars had to be elongated.

even though the rods had to be long, they looked very cool and very futeristic, and if the ride was inverstid properly, with a reinforced banked track, it would have been by far superior than test track.

did you know that the straight stretch of track after you leave the innoventions and go over the autopia/ submarine area, the rods hit 58mph!

PeoplemoverMatt

01-16-2006, 09:27 PM

I guess you really do learn something new everyday. It seems that the Rods had such a slow load time that the first Single-Rider Line was put in place. Funny how some things come to be. :tongue:

-- Peoplemover "Failure is the ultimate teacher after all" Matt

WeHaveIgnition05

01-17-2006, 11:35 PM

well there is California Screamin' and Grizzly River Run and Sourin'

proof that there are new rides that aren't just movie based

So I dont see why to be worried about that

getting back to the subject

....bring them back

redesign
construct
improve
and most of all
be patient for what they'll do

tdromarsky

01-19-2006, 01:50 AM

I think it's safe to say, whatever ride may come, the east side of the park desperatly needs a new, top notch, e-ticket ride.

mrskellington

01-23-2006, 03:57 PM

That is the Tomorrowland side right? And I know I heard this from a cast member, that they said their's a battle between Rods and PeopleMover lol I know everone knows this! but just saying :)

RocketRodsluver123

01-31-2006, 03:47 PM

the rocket rods would totally win, cuz its a way better, way faster ride!

PeoplemoverMatt

01-31-2006, 05:46 PM

Where is it written that faster = better?

-- PMM :cool:

Disneyland_Wolf

01-31-2006, 05:54 PM

Super Fast without Guided Tracks = Death

dc8781

01-31-2006, 06:26 PM

is for the people mover...with better things in the drive thru tunnel parts...dang how long has the people mover been gone? i loved that ride...and speaking of fast = better...yeah the people mover line moved fast and that made it better

ryguy222

01-31-2006, 08:22 PM

^^lol actually faster =better is only true for rollercoasters IMO. I think they need something that is slow somewhere to relax. This isn't six flags ppl.

PeoplemoverMatt

01-31-2006, 10:05 PM

Even in roller coasters faster doesn't = better. Top Thril Dragster in Ohio is the current world's fastest at 128MPH. However, I think I'm going to have a much better ride on Tatsu than I would on Dragster because it's a flyer. I haven't been on either ride, but even though it goes less than half Dragster's speed, what's involved on Tatsu sounds much more exciting than 'just' 128MPH. Next time you're at Magic Mtn., is Superman: The Escape or Goliath the best rides in the park just because they're the two fastest? Think about it.

-- PMM :cool:

ScaryTrees

01-31-2006, 11:02 PM

Well some people could think faster is better if thats what they look for in a rollercoaster and isnt that what the point of rollercoaster was when they were invented or discovered or whatever you call it

Robert Fuller

02-01-2006, 12:31 AM

Even in roller coasters faster doesn't = better. Top Thril Dragster in Ohio is the current world's fastest at 128MPH.

Actually, Kingda Ka in New Jersey is the world's fastest roller coaster (and the tallest).

tdromarsky

02-01-2006, 12:55 AM

I wish Rocket Rods would come back, however I agree, it doesn't appear that it will :(

PeoplemoverMatt

02-01-2006, 01:30 AM

Actually, Kingda Ka in New Jersey is the world's fastest roller coaster (and the tallest).

Kingda Ka: 128MPH, 456 feet
Top Thrill Dragster: 120MPH, 420 feet high
The difference: 8MPH, 36 feet

Thanks for missing the point entirely Robert!

-- PMM :cool:

Robert Fuller

02-01-2006, 02:57 AM

Kingda Ka: 128MPH, 456 feet
Top Thrill Dragster: 120MPH, 420 feet high
The difference: 8MPH, 36 feet

Thanks for missing the point entirely Robert!

-- PMM :cool:
How did I miss the point? You made an incorrect statement and I politely corrected you. Geez!

PeoplemoverMatt

02-01-2006, 11:08 AM

^ Back up & re-read my post. The point, that you entirely missed, was that faster doesn't necessarily mean better. So what if TTD is 2nd fastest instead of fastest? That's irrelevant to the discussion & a very minor detail that really had no significance with what I was saying. So, again, thanks for missing the point entirely!

-- PMM :cool:

Robert Fuller

02-01-2006, 12:37 PM

PeoplemoverMatt

02-01-2006, 01:08 PM

Thanks for that entirely off-topic/irrelevant point.

Now as for the relevant point, which, if I can recall, was that Rods deserved to come back because it's faster. Someone said faster only = better for coasters & coaster parks like Magic Mtn. Well, I disagree with that because I know of better coasters than Dragster or Ka (many enthusiasts really dislike Ka) that obviously aren't the fastest. Anyone have any comments on that so we can continue the discussion?

-- PMM :cool:

Monorail91

02-01-2006, 04:54 PM

I loved Rocket Rods, breakdowns and all.

Robert Fuller

02-01-2006, 06:07 PM

Thanks for that entirely off-topic/irrelevant point.
Don't be rude. Off-topic posts are made all the time on here (yours included, since you're talking about roller coasters now, not the Rocket Rods). It wasn't irrelevant in the sense that you were wrong and I was giving you information that I thought might interest you. No need to get snippy and sarcastic with me.

Now as for the relevant point, which, if I can recall, was that Rods deserved to come back because it's faster. Someone said faster only = better for coasters & coaster parks like Magic Mtn. Well, I disagree with that because I know of better coasters than Dragster or Ka (many enthusiasts really dislike Ka) that obviously aren't the fastest. Anyone have any comments on that so we can continue the discussion?
You also don't need to repeat yourself. Obviously, no one is disagreeing with this statement.

PeoplemoverMatt

02-01-2006, 07:33 PM

I was talking about Coasters in terms of speed which related to why one member thought the Rods should return. This argument is pointless and accomplishes nothing but needlessly clutters this thread, so I'm ending it here & now. If you want to talk about that point or something else about the Rods, fine, but I'm not saying anything more about this.

-- PMM :cool:

Robert Fuller

02-02-2006, 02:37 AM

But I'm not arguing with you, so I really don't know what your problem is. Whatever it is, I sincerely hope you get help or work it out on your own.

Ezra

02-02-2006, 10:51 AM

What about an attraction based on and old futuristic concept that was never realized: The Personal Mass Transit Device. The concept here was that you could own a personal vehicle that could load itself onto a shared mass transit system, such as an electric streetcar track.

I'm thinking of an attraction very similar to the old PeopleMover; but instead of four-car trams, it would feature individual units. As they leave the transit station, they all separate from eachother and ride the track like personal vehicles. I wish I could take something like that to work instead of the light rail train.

Chris

02-02-2006, 11:00 AM

Robert and Matt, COOL IT or this thread gets closed.

Imjustpeachy

02-02-2006, 11:08 AM

I'm thinking of an attraction very similar to the old PeopleMover; but instead of four-car trams, it would feature individual units. As they leave the transit station, they all separate from eachother and ride the track like personal vehicles. I wish I could take something like that to work instead of the light rail train.

that would be very cool. that's something my brother told me he'd like to see. But it would have to cater to kids too. Kids probably wouldn't be able to ride alone unless accompanied by an adult. That's the only thing that stinks. But good idea overall!

Ezra

02-02-2006, 11:16 AM

Kids probably wouldn't be able to ride alone unless accompanied by an adult. I don't see why not... we rode the old PeopleMover by ourselves, and it would certainly be less of a danger then Autopia. They wouldn't control it at all, and the door would seal automatically just like the old PeopleMover trams did. CMs at the boarding station make sure the kids get on safely. It'd be fine.

Monorail91

02-03-2006, 03:27 PM

Robert and Matt, COOL IT or this thread gets closed.

No offense to ANYONE, but when I read that I just started laughing. Probably because it sounds like something I would say...

RocketRodsluver123

02-04-2006, 04:44 PM

stitchhead28

02-04-2006, 05:42 PM

Can't we all just get along?!?:eek:

PeoplemoverMatt

02-04-2006, 05:54 PM

hey matt would you please not get upset at robert, i clearly read both threads, and all robert did was correct your false statement, it should have been left at that, but if u guys continue, then u could say bye bye to the rocketrods thread, so please, just be cool with each other and stop arguing, thanx.

I've said the argument is through & it's done. Please don't further bump it like this, thanks.
In fact, all posts involved should just be deleted & forgotten.

-- PMM :cool:

CLASSIC HM

02-04-2006, 10:19 PM

The biggest concern that I have is that Disney may do the "Skyway Approach" - Get rid of an attraction and don't bother replacing it. In other words, they may end up tearing down the whole track.

RollingBoulder

02-04-2006, 10:29 PM

I hope they don't take out the track, unless they were rebuilding it. It would just be wasted potential to remove it.

Off Topic: How would you replace the Skyway anyway? It's not something they could just replace with another attraction. I understand what you're saying, but it just seems like an odd example.

stitchhead28

02-06-2006, 02:19 PM

The biggest concern that I have is that Disney may do the "Skyway Approach" - Get rid of an attraction and don't bother replacing it. In other words, they may end up tearing down the whole track.

I honestly don't think they will take this approach (cool analogy though!). Look at what happened when Buzz opened, no old attraction closed (unless you count the Rocket Rods themself). And look at the Nemo Subs, I don't think Disney is going to be closing any other attractions down anytime soon for this one. But then again, I could be entirely wrong and they could possibly just go ahead and rip the track out. In any case, I'm just saying that Disney hasn't repeated the "Skyway Approach" recently, and I hope they don't.

Executioner

02-10-2006, 11:08 AM

The Skyway track wasn't exactly something you could do another ride off of anyway. So leaving the track there for that one would be pointless. Now I also doubt they will tear out the Peoplemover track. They would have to close TL down for a while just to do this and we all know they can't do that now. They just opened SM and they are redoing the subs plus Buzz is open. there is just way to much for them to want to tear it out for now. Not that they couldn't, jsut unlikely.

Disneylandrocks1955

02-10-2006, 12:56 PM

I don't think they would ever tear out the track... Even when nothing is running on it, it still adds some very cool architectural design to the land. The way the track curves, and the way it's shaped, it's basically art. But still, it was designed to have something moving along the top of it, so it’s still lacking, but has potential to be great again.

CLASSIC HM

02-10-2006, 06:43 PM

It is a shame that nothing is on the Rocket Rod/Peoplemover track right now. Besides the Skyway, I can think of another example of a ride that was dismantled and never replaced - The Motorboat Cruise.

I honesty don't know what the Motorboat Cruise was. I didn't even know it existed. Potentially they may never replace the Motorboat Cruise. I hope I'm wrong though.

Executioner

02-10-2006, 06:46 PM

CLASSIC HM

02-10-2006, 06:51 PM

I can't see the Autopia on water. But I do hope they use the Motorboat Cruise area for some sort of attraction - Preferrably non-Pixar. Likewise for the Peoplemover/Rocket Rod Track. If they do reuse the track, it probably be neither Peoplemover nor Rocket Rods.

Executioner

02-10-2006, 06:56 PM

It was just a boat ride that you controlled with a gas pedal, just like Autopia. Same engines, just ones a boat and the other is a car. RR I don't see coming back even as a revamed style. PM yes. But again, we won't know until an announcement from them.

RocketRodsluver123

02-22-2006, 09:36 PM

hey wheres was the rocket rods maintenance shed located, like when they broke down, how did they get the rods off the track, and when they stopped the whole ride, how did they get all the rods off.

just imagine if the one rod thats in their backlot, that they took it and put it on the track again one day, and the rod started going down the track again, what do you think people will say??

PeoplemoverMatt

02-22-2006, 09:38 PM

^ The Rods were serviced in the upper level of Innoventions.

-- PMM :cool:

disneygeek06

02-23-2006, 11:11 AM

I'll admit im only 17 and ive only been to disneyland about 30 times but what i do know is this, the PM's rocked it was a way to get off your feel for about 15 min and see tomorrowland from a new prespective sure the rocketrods were extremely fun and aimed more at teens and 20 somethings but disney's a family place and the PM's just make more sense besides what a better way to add to tomorrowland than bringing back something walt thought was brilliant when your already comericializing the last great atraction he ever worked on?

RocketRodsluver123

02-23-2006, 05:41 PM

no, bring back rocket rods, and make the effects really cool, and when its pitch black, make it look like space mountain, that would be cool, even if the rods slowed down, accelerating back up again and again, was soooooo fun.

if disney, would jkust re think the rocket rods, and use enough money, to make the ride really last, and add a few extra surprise, it would be way cool

even peoplemovermatt would be glad that the rods came back(heheheh)

CLASSIC HM

02-23-2006, 07:56 PM

I have to admit though that I remember the Rocket Rods more than the Peoplemover. But the track wasn't designed for a fast paced ride. If we had a cross-breed between the two, then we would have something spectacular.

PeoplemoverMatt

02-23-2006, 09:35 PM

^ That's not really surprising seeing as the Peoplemover was killed so the Rods could live and then kill themselves. Obviously you'd remember the Rods more, anyone would. If you combine the two though, you'd have people whining about the slow parts & there's not enough fast parts, or the fast parts aren't fast enough, or whatever. Peoplemover track is meant for what it was meant for, a slow-speed overhead outdoor tour of Tomorrowland.

-- PMM :cool:

disneygeek06

02-24-2006, 11:34 AM

i agree with PMM bring the people mover back. sure im one of like three people in my entire generation to remember it but still its one of those timeless classics that i honestly think disneyland could use. but then and as how to build and house it duh, gut out that useless radio disney building and run the que the way it should have been used.

RocketRodsluver123

02-26-2006, 07:04 PM

Jeinkinslod

03-05-2006, 05:32 PM

aye, i was on one of the last rods to break down.:icon_redf

It was my favorite ride in the park and i wish it were back. its erie to look at the old track of it and the people mover now (i saw it when in line for psace mountain. its just...blank. i really hope they rebuild it, it was awesome seeing the other rides

==========Please do not double post as this is against site guidelines===========================

oh yes, and i didnt like hte people mover so i would prefer f they didnt bring it back, still if it filsl the tracks then i will be content.

DISNEYLAND!

gOLDEN bLUE

03-07-2006, 10:49 PM

Does anyone have the songs and sounds of the Rocket Rods? Such as, the music they play in the que (sp?) and sounds the rocket rods make when they run. thank you!

Disneyland Fan

03-07-2006, 11:24 PM

Check out the Rocket Rods page in the Tommorrowland history section of VF here. (http://visionsfantastic.com/main.php?page=rocketrods)

Merging with the Rocket Rods discussion currently taking place in the Rumor Mill forum.

~DF~

ryguy222

03-12-2006, 07:39 AM

i understand the track is not curved, but they made the rods work on the track didnt they? if it wasnt meant for the track, then why did disney invent the rocket rods??

without curved turns, the rods would still work, because test track at disney epcot had the same problems the rocket rods did, because they were always breaking down, and both the rides were based off of indiana jones, but test track had a corporate sponsor, and the rocket rods didnt, i honestly think, if you keep a FULL BUDGET, THE RODS WILL BE SUCCESSFULL, despte the way the track is, i mea come on, the old rods, diney was so cheap about it, they coul dnt even put the rods sign on both sides of the building.

please rocket rods come back!
Well test track didn't have un banked curves. They just had to change the tires about every six days. Then they used a different material and now they change them about every month. Thats way different then what the RR had. Funny thing i don't remeber the rocket rods at all because out of the five times we went in about two years they were always cloesed.

unit23

03-19-2006, 06:48 PM

"(3/15/06) I?m not sure exactly what to make of it, but we?ve been informed that several Imagineers have been spotted stalking around on the old Peoplemover / Rocket Rods track platform of late. It looks as if they are inspecting the tracks on the bridge piece nearest the Orbitron last Friday and it looks as if much of the various plant debris has been cleared from the tracks as well. Anyone know more? Perhaps they are planning something new for it once again."

found this off screamscape, doesnt mean much but its just to spark a little more hope in that empty track. I remember reading earlier that they were planning to clear some of the plant debri and overhanging trees off the track.

Ezra

03-19-2006, 06:51 PM

Probably just a general tidying up, but it could mean something more... :redface:

norcal1219

03-19-2006, 08:36 PM

I don't know if this has to do with anything, but yesterday the Observatron area was fenced off. I'm not sure if they are fixing pavement or maybe something to do with Rocket Rods or the Peoplemover.

unit23

03-19-2006, 09:39 PM

well that article i posted, i found on 2 other sites so far, and you say the area was fenced off? this could mean sometings going down! ill be there next week to examine all this, but it could be nothing.

RocketRodsluver123

03-20-2006, 05:06 PM

i hope the rocket rods are coming back!

CLASSIC HM

03-20-2006, 05:12 PM

Let's give up on the Rocket Rods. It was a nice idea but it wasn't meant to be. If the peoplemover came back it would be something. It was more reliable than the Rocket Rocs and the round trip was longer.

RocketRodsluver123

03-20-2006, 05:20 PM

i lie to you not, the marching band taht i am in, we performed at disney recently, and we got to go into the backlot, and i saw a rocket rods car, and it was painted a florescent purple, and i saw guys standing around it, but i dont know if they were just on a coffe break, or if they were working on the rod, but something is suspicious here.

unit23

03-20-2006, 06:56 PM

man thats a good sign! I hope they bring the rods back, im one of the few that does remember riding the peoplemover and even my 40 year old dad says that it got old. if they put the peoplemover back ill still ride it but it will be like, "sigh..", know what im saying?

you cant take a fast ride down and put a slow ride on, that would just feel wierd. im not raggin on the mover, that was a good ride. I bet if they took out space mountain and put a slow moving space tour or something in its place you would still have people saying that space mountain had to go, wouldnt be me but thats how things go.

oh yeah there were wall that went up the other day, heres a pic from today about whats going behind them! think yah'll will find this interesting!!!!

http://www.jjccreations.ultimatethrillzone.com/random/P3170919.JPG

PeoplemoverMatt

03-20-2006, 10:27 PM

^ It's not like the Rods went down yesterday. Rods & Peoplemover have been gone for so long that they're equally vacant in people's minds with Peoplemover the most prevelant because it was around so much longer.

I really doubt anyone would have the impression that a fast ride was taken down for a slow ride if Peoplemover was announced to come back. Rods has been dead for a long time & in that time the truth has come out over the enormous mistake & failure of design that it was.

Those red arrows all along that wall are interesting. If that was is destined to come down, the walkway to the right could be making a return. That would be wonderful for traffic flow in that area as it has suffered ever since that planter was put in in '98.

-- PMM :cool:

unit23

03-21-2006, 05:51 PM

What I was told was that the design was a failure and couldnt be refurbed because of the low budget for the attraction. One theory might be that in this long "dead" downtime, they have managed to get a bigger one and even a sponsor to reincorporate the rods back on the track.

The planters around the Rods station are comming out to make a bigger walkway for the crowds when the new sub voyage and monorail open. Still with those all taken out, that area has good potential for a line for a returned Rocket Rods/Peoplemover attraction.

PeoplemoverMatt

03-21-2006, 06:20 PM

What they'd need to do is knock out the planters & restore the walkway to the left, which looks like is happening now. Then, they'd need to move the ODV cart, knock out the planter and knock back through the underside of the platform where the speedramps used to be. If they're knocking out the planters to the right, watch for construction marks on the underside of the platform as well.

-- PMM :cool:

CLASSIC HM

03-21-2006, 11:14 PM

I wish that Disneyland would make an announcement on what exactly they will do with the Peoplemover track. I hope though they don't tear it out. But if they do, now would be a good time to do it.

RocketRodsluver123

03-22-2006, 04:47 PM

well the way it seems, i dont think peoplemover will come back, because, they will have to take the existing rail off the track, and the rocket rods car i saw in the back, looked as if the car was spruced up and ready to run.

oh ya, i also heard that fences were put up around the track again like on the rods before it opened. is this true!

MAY THE RODS LLIVE AGAIN!

unit23

03-22-2006, 09:15 PM

ok, so the one rod you saw was it on the deck exposed to the outside, or was it underneathe some shade or something like a shed? and you said it looked ready to go? did you see more rods? and were there peeps working on or around it? and how close was it to the back of innoventions?

man that would be friggin tight if they are comming back! but it could just be there, like the one that was posted up over at DCA for a while back in 2002.

RocketRodsluver123

03-24-2006, 06:12 PM

it was inside by a astro orbitor jet that was broken, and next to a broken mtterhorn cart, but the rod was florescent purple, real shiny, it looked brand new, yes it was behind innoventions, but some guys were standing around it, and i couldnt talk to them, cuz i was in drumline, and i had to keep marching, but the rods looked brand new. oh and i only saw one rod which was that one.