Disneyland Resort vs. Disney World

[Wendell]

This is the first of a series of posts by me that will compare/contrast the Disneyland Resort Parks with the Disney World Parks. These comparisons include close cousins of rides, such as Kali River Rapids at Animal Kingdom and Grizzly River Run at DCA. Well, let's start with Magic Kingdom and Disneyland.

Volume 1: Main Street and Adventueland

Upon entering Disney World's Magic Kingdom, you could tell you are in a different park. You have to take a ferry or monorail to get to the park's enterance.

Disneyland's is accesible by foot, and only a couple hundred feet from the tram station

Main Street USA:

-Disney World: Okay. At Disneyworld, they do have the train station and horsedrawn street cars and fire trucks. Instead of a real main street cinema, we have another *gasp* store! The Main Street Cinema is just a place to go buy the "Pal" Mickey!

There is no opera house. Instead, there is a restaurant. I prefer the Walt Disney Story better. Notice I didn't complain about no Great Moments, because Lincoln is in Liberty Square (more on that later.) The shops I found to be smaller, and the Candy Shop not as ornate. There is no Wonderland Music shop.

Aside from these, Main Street USA is about the same in decor, except that Main Street itself is wider than at DL.

-Disneyland: Our Main Street has Fire Trucks, a Train Station, and Horse Drawn Streetcars as well. However, on Main Street, we also have The Walt Disney Story featuring Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln. Now for the 50th it is an exhibit, but still better than a restaurant. The Main Street Cinema actually shows classic Mickey Mouse cartoons. :p We could make our own CDs at the Wonderland music shop. We have a better restaurant, Walt Disney's Plaza Inn. Our shops are more ornate and carry more merchandise as opposed to Disney World's.

Perhaps the biggest difference in Main Street is that Walt Disney lived in the apartment above the fire house in DL. I believe his spirit adds a lot to Main Street and the rest of the park as opposed to the so-called "magic" of Disney World.

Adventureland:

Disney World - The detail that surprised me most was that the entrance wasn't as detailed. Just two posts with a sign saying Adventureland.

Here, instead of Indiana Jones, we have Alladin's Magic Carpets, somewhat of a clone of Dumbo the Flying Elephant in Alladin Style. A huge letdown.

The Enchanted Tiki Room: Under New Management. This show sucked. I hate how they still had Jose and the others singing while the parrot from Alladin and Zazu were cracking dry jokes, which # 1 were not funny and just ruined the show. I say Disneyland's original is much better.

The Jungle Cruise was just the same, maybe a few diffrences but not much.

Pirates of the Carribbean. Disney World better rethink this. I don't see how I'm cursed when I hadn't seen treasure until the end. I missed not going through the Blue Bayou and going down two waterfalls. The ending was a lot drier than DLs, no going up the waterfall.

Finally, they have one good thing that I want back: The Swiss Family Treehouse, which even now isn't as good as the one we had before Tarzan moved in.

Disneyland:

Okay, real adventure. The enterance has primitive relics. The Enchanted Tiki Room is the same except for one song, and is much more entertaining than Zazu taking over the show. I loved seeing the Tiki's in the garden once again.

The Jungle Cruise: The Same, except queue is much more interesting here.

Indiana Jones: A much better substitute than Alladin's Magic Carpets huh? I love going through the temple of the forbidden eye, and the ride always being different.

The Tarzan Treehouse is interesting, but I like Swiss Family better.

Again, the themeing in Adventureland is better, and Walt's spirit in both make it much more magical. Disney World just has to put in a few more attractions.

Coming Up:

Frontierland, New Orleans, Critter Country, and Liberty Square!

[Wendell]

:eek: Welcome Back! Now let's take a look at Frontierland, Critter Country, New Orleans, and Liberty Square.

Frontierland:

Disney World: Almost all the attractions in Critter Country and Frontierland at Disneyland have been mushed together in Disney World's Frontierland. The Stockade isn't as detailed. They do not have a sailing ship. But they do have two of Disneyland's most popular attractions: Splash Mountain and Big Thunder!

Splash Mountain: Almost exactly the same, except for a few different scenes. We have a few they don't have, and they have a few we don't. This is a must.

Big Thunder: Ride is great, but one problem. It almost shares the queue with Splash Mountain! :eek: It was confusing for me to find out if I am in the Splash Mountain line or Big Thunder. Bad location for the rides.

Disney World Railroad: Let me review this attraction. As opposed to Disneyland's 4 stops, the trains stop here, Main Street, and Toontown Fair. The tour is not as fun as Disneylands. We get to listen to Pochahontas music while we ride behind hedges. There is no trip back in time, nor a trip to the Grand Canyon. Unless you are looking for a quick ride to the other side, skip it.

Country Bear Jamboree: Finally! An attraction with class! It is exactly the same as the one that left Disneyland years ago. I loved seeing Wendell and Henry again, and especially Big Al. They still rotate shows with the Christmas Special during the Christmas season. (This was one of the few reasons I went to Disney World!)

Tom Sawyer's Island is almost the same. Still fun.

Disneyland: Okay! We have the Mark Twain and Sailing Ship Columbia. Two of the most beautiful vessels I've ever seen. The ride is interesting as well.

Big Thunder Mountain: Located at the site of the former Mine Train, this IS the Wildest Ride in the Wilderness. The Queue is actually discernible because there is no ride near it.

Davy Crockett Canoes: Fun to know I could actually move something myself without it being on a track. Great views of the Rivers of America

Tom Sawyer's Island is the same. Love the fort!

New Orleans:

Disneyworld: God Dang IT! There is no New Orleans on the resort! I mean, where am I supposed to go to use my Club 33 membership at Disney World.

Disneyland: I love the french quarter. I like this reproduction better than the real one.

Pirates of the Carribbean: The original is also the best. We go through a peaceful Bayou before plummeting down two waterfalls! Great Fun!

Haunted Mansion: Great location, hauntingly silly. Same as Disney World's in most ways except for one thing. (I'll get to that later.)

Critter Country:

Disneyworld: Now Critter Country either! Splash Mountain belongs here! Not in Frontierland!

Disneyland

Splash Mountain: Same as Disneyworld except for a couple of scenes. Great ride. Like em both.

Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: Pooh belongs here. He IS a critter after all. Fun ride, but liked the Country Bears better. :p

Liberty Square: The only land Disneyland does not have, this land includes the Hall of Presidents and the Haunted Mansion.

Hall of Presidents: Kind of dull until the Abe's speech, still fun and realistic. One reason to go to Disney World is to see this show.

Haunted Mansion: Same except for facade and the beginning of the ride. Instead of riding straight through the Conservatory after the stretching room, we go into a library of Ghost Strories.

Liberty Belle: A steamship cousin to the Mark Twain.

So you see, these lands are all different. I like the location of the Rides in Disneyland much better.

Coming Up:

Fantasyland, Toontown, and Tomorrowland :wink:

[Wendell]

Now let's continue with Fantasyland, Toontown, and Tomorrowland.

Fantasyland:

Disneyworld: Ugh! It hasn't changed since the 70s. The decor is still the same. Unlike the brilliant facades of Disneyland, this is still the tents that Disneyland had before the 80s. The rides also haven't changed in technological advancements since. They are still kind of dull. Let's take a look at them, one by one.

Snow White's Scary Adventures: The ride doesn't have us much in it as ours. There is no holographic apple, the ending isn't as exciting. I just give it

The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: Almost the same as ours, but the main problem is this one took over Mr. Toad! I can't believe they would take out my favorite Package Film character.

Peter Pan's Flight: The most advanced ride in Fantasyland, almost the same as ours.

It's a Small World: Man! No castle enterance. One would think Disney World's enterance would be better than DLs, but no. They just get on boats and take off. Ride is the same however.

Mad Tea Party: What can I say?

Cinderella's Golden Carousel: Any questions?

Dumbo the Flying Elephant: <cricket sound>

Mickey's Philarmagic: The most advanced 3-D movie I've ever seen. DL needs this ride!

Okay, there is no Storybook Land, no Casey Junior, no Pinnochio, and no Mr, Toad. What kind of land are they running here, anyway?

Disneyland: Fun!

Snow White: Much longer and more advanced. Could ride it all day.

Pinnochio's Daring Journey: My favorite movie by Walt Disney, ride is a great ambassador for it.

Peter Pan: The Same

Mr. Toad's Wild Ride: My favorite Fantasyland attraction. I love it!

Storybook Land Canal Boats: Another great boat ride. The miniatures are really well done. :smile:

The Matterhorn: Greatest mountain ride of all time! Disney Worlders really miss out when it comes to thrills in Magic Kingdom.

Casey Junior: Great train ride through Storybook land.

King Arthur's Carousel: zzzzzzz

Mad Tea Party: (twiddilin' thumbs)

Alice in Wonderland: Knew they were missing something. Great ride.

Dumbo: Have you seen an elephant fly?

Toontown:

Disneyworld: Rides are about the same as ours, and they only have one!

The Barnstormer: Sme type of coaster as Gadget's Go Coaster at Disneyland.

Character Houses: Come on, the characters live in the Judge's Tent. Why do they even have houses and boats?

Disneyland:

Gadget's Go Coaster: Fun 1 minute coaster ride. Great for kids

Roger Rabbits Car-Toon Spin: Love it! Fun attraction in Toontown

Character Houses: Characters actually live here.

Toontownat DW was a let down. Disney could do better. Can they?

Tomorrowland:

Disneyworld: Great! Finally a real land.

Stitch's Great Escape: Belongs in Fantasy.

Buzz Lightyear: Same as DLs

TL Transit Authority: The Peoplemover with a new name. Great short tour of TL. Great to see Progress City again. Maybe someday DW will become Walt's Dream. Someday...

Carousel of Progress: Here is the one reason I went to Disney World. I love this ride and I just had to see it after listening to the track on the six cd set.

Space Mountain: Now is same as ours after ours had an extreme makeover. :wink:

Astro Orbiter. Great location. Now with a view.

Tomorrowland Indy Speedway: Autopia Clone.

Disneyland: I HATE our Tomorrowland.

Space Mountain: Same as DW

Star Tours: Too Old, needs to be advanced.

Astro Orbiter. Too Low! move back ontop of the peoplemover.

Innoventions: This piece of s***! I don't care that someday I'll have a laptop of my own. This is a suitable successor to Carousel? America Sings??

Autopia: Great to drive a car.

Monorail: Fast transit to The hotels.

Well, I'll have to say this is not a worthy clone of Disneyland. Magic Kingdom was the original park, and second best to Epcot. However, all are beaten way down into the ground by DL. They say Disneyworld has Magic. Well I say that Walt's spirit is in Disneyland and always will be. DL is his land! Too bad Disney World didn't become the true Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. :icon_cry:

Coming Up!

Epcot: Experimental Prototype Community to...Theme Park!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

[Wendell]

Volume 2: Experimental Prototype Community to..... THEME PARK!!! :eek:

Birnbaum's guide to DW and the DW DVDs all say the Epcot of today is the realization of Walt's dream

REALIZATION OF WALT'S DREAM MY ARM!!!

He did not say Epcot was going to be a theme park but a real city. Today, we have a World's Fair.

Let's start in Future World

Future World is an extention of Tomorrowland. Pavillions here include the following with descriptions of what's included:

The Living Seas: Basically an aquarium. Belongs at Sea World. Also includes a research station of tomorrow. (Big whoop!)

The Land: Living with the Land was fun to see how people of the future may grow crops, but after all, we are in a greenhouse! Soarin' is a clone of Soarin' over California in DCA. It was fun, but not worth the three hour wait at DW. Go to DCA and wait a half hour. Circle of Life is another one of the those enviormentalist movies. I had enough in Animal Kingdom! Why dot they pepeper me here?

Imagination!: Greatest pavillion at Epcot. I loved the ride "Journey into Imagination with Figment. It was fun to go into upside down rooms and other delights to the senses. Imageworks: What If Labs was kind of boring. Honey I Shrunk the Audience is just a clone of the show in TL at Disneyland.

Test Track: Fun ride. Just make sure your belts are on. Fast test drive roller coaster type.

Mission Space: Bring your barf bag. Need it for the Weigtlessness sickness. Really realistic.

Wonders of Life: Cranium Command: Just another movie. Body wars was really cool. Going through the body in Star Tours Like fasion.

Universe of Energy: Go back in time in their edition of our Primeval world.

Spaceship Earth: Travel through time from the age of Neanderthals to the present day.

World Showcase: Many countries dot the lagoon on a 1.5 mile journey in World's Fair fashion.

Canada: O Canada! is a circlerama presentation. The first and the best.

United Kingdom. Lots of shops, great fish and chips.

France: Impressiones de France. A 180 degree movie. Visit all the great sites of france in this movie.

Morocco: Shops and restaurants.

Japan: In the mood for sushi? Japan is for you!

The American Adventure: The Best pavillion with the best show. Venture through American History with Mark Twain and Ben Franklin.

Italy: Shops and great food.

Germany: More shops and food.

China: Reflections of China 360 degree movie. Great but gets old after all the others. More shops and restaurants.

Norway: Best ride in World Showcase is Maelstrom, Epcot's version of Pirates of the Carribbean. Fun Viking Journey. More Shops.

Mexico: El Rio Del Tiempo, another boat ride. Epcot's version of It's a Small World.

Epcot: The Experimental Prototype Communtiy of Tomorrow actually should be called EPTOT: The Experimental Prototype Theme Park of Tomorrow. Walt wanted it to be a city, with suburbs and urban homes. He wanted a downtown area with streets replicating streets around the world completely covered and climate controlled, and he wanted monorail and peoplemover to take you across the area. I hardly think that this theme park is the realization of Walt's dream. Maybe someday...

Coming UP!

Disney MGM Studios and Animal Kingdom

[Wendell]

Volume 3: Disney's Universal Studios and Wild Animal Park

Disney MGM Studios: My first thought when I came here took me back to DCA and Hollywood Pictures Backlot. That is exactly what this place is. I will quickly run through the attractions now.

The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror: You know what this is right? We have it as our newest addition to DCA. Great ride, ours is better.

Rock n' Roller Coaster: An indoor version of California Screamin, this ride is a little bit irritating. What does Aerosmith have to do with Disney World Anyway.

Beauty and the Beast Live On Stage: A show like our Snow White and Alladin.

The Magic of Disney Animation: Ours is more advanced and fun. Here, you cannot morph your picture with that of a disney charcter. Boring in the studios.

Voyage of the Little Mermaid: Horrible Show. Made me want to cry! :frown:

Playhouse Disney: DCA. Need I say more?

Disney MGM Studios Backlot Tour: Sorry people, but this is no longer a studio. Exciting tour though. I loved the special effects.

Lights, Motors, Action Stunt Show: If we have an Indian Jones show, who needs this?

Who Wants to be a Millionaire: Think... DCA

The Great Movie Ride: Mommy, I want this! This would be a great substitute to the now gone Superstar Limo. Great touring the movie sets.

Sounds Dangerous Drew Carey: Boring 3D sound show. I'll listen to my ipod thank you!

Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular: This is supposed to take the place of an Indian Jones Ride. Sorry, don't need it.

Star Tours: Replica of TLs in Disneland's.

Jim Henson's Muppet Vison 3-D: DCA

Honey I Shrunk the Kids Movie Set Adventure: Toddlers Only! I hate it.

MGM Studios is just a lame attempt to compete with Universal. I'm sorry, but MGM is the least enjoyable park. Just go to DCA, okay?

Animal Kingdom: This is the most enviormentally correct park I've ever scene. Too much, "give us your money or the elephants will die" stuff. Here I will disect the park.

The Oasis: Shops and a few animals to see. Nothing special.

Discovery Island: Trails take you to a series of animal exhibits. Just a zoo. It's Tough To Be a Bug is here. Inside the big tree, you can see this show. Or, you can go to DCA!

Africa: Kilamanjaro Safaris would have been a perfect ride if they could leave out the poachers. IT is a replica of the Wild Animal Park in San Diego's tram system. Go to the place with better weather instead of sweating it off in Animal Kingdom. Other trailstake you to more animals.

Rafiki's Planet Watch: Here is the mentality, "give us your money or the elephants will die." Go to the animal center and listen to 3-D destruction of rainforest and other such junk. Must take train to get there.

Asia: Kali River Rapids: A cousin of Grizzly River Run in DCA, this ride is boring. Only one short drop is in it. The rafts go through a burning rain forest (with the enviormentally correct park, we saw it coming.) DCA's ride has two waterfalls and a lot more interesting stuff to look at. AK's ride is not worth the wait. More trails take you to more animals and the Bird Show belongs at Sea World.

Dinoland USA: The Boneyard is in Legoland CA, and they charge you to dig. Chester and Hester's Dino-Rama is just AK's version of DCA's Paradise Pier. Same fair style rides. The ride Dinosaur is a trip back in time to the age of dinosaurs. Tarzan Rocks! NOTTT!! Horibble Show.

Camp Minnie-Mickey: Festival of the Lion King is a short version of Disney's Broadway Musical. Best Show in the Park.

So the conclusion I draw from Animal Kingdom is, go to the San Diego Zoo, Sea World, Wild Animal Park and DCA. Much more to do in these places and a lot more to learn as well.

Coming Up: Disneyland Exclusives and Final analysis :p

[Wendell]

Volume 4: The Final Round-Up

Now for the attractions we have that they don't.

Disneyland: Indiana Jones, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Club 33, The Enchanted Tiki Room (original), The Sailing Ship Columbia, Davy Crockett Canoes, Roger Rabbit's Car-Toon Spin, and Walt Disney Story.

DCA: Golden Zephyr, Orange Stinger, King Triton's Carousel, Boardwalk Games, Maliboomer, Golden Dreams, Bountiful Valley Farm, and A Bug's Land.

Now for the Attractions (excluding shows) they have and we don't.

Dinosaur, The Bone Yard, Disney MGM Studios Backlot Tour, The Great Movie Ride, Rock N' Roller Coaster, World Showcase, All of Future world except Soarin', Mickey's Philarmagic, Carousel of Progress, Hall of Presidents and Country Bear Jamboree. They also have water parks and a sport facility.

Disney World to me jus doesn't have the same magic as Disneyland. I say it's because we Disneylanders walk in Walt's footsteps, we can become members of Club 33, we can look up at his apartment. Disney Worlders just get attractions, and are missing a lot of our specials. I give Disneyland the award for fairest of them all. There.

If I owned Disney World, I would doze it all, except Magic Kingdom, and build the real Epcot. All new parks would be built around Magic Kingdom. Oh, and I would add what we all like into Magic. Well, the bottom line is, if you are planning a trip to Disney World, and you feel Walt's spirit and almost hear his voice everytime you go into Disneyland, you are going to be disappointed.

Well, thanks for taking the time to read my reviews on the Walt Disney's Happiest Place on Earth and the cruddy realization of Walt's dream known as Disney World.

So Long! Any comments? MUHAAAAAAA!

[krnsngr85]

exactly, I mean Disney World is good in some sense but they only hvae quantity not Quality like Disneyland Does. You do know of course now Anaheim needs a Cirque Du Soleil Show.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ It does? Where? DLR's doing fine without that goofy "circus." If people want to see them, there are 2 or 3 different shows on the Las Vegas strip. Spend money on all the improvements the park needs, not the $80 adult circus. I wish they would turn Mulholland Madness into the spinning wild mouse that Primeval Whirl is, but it won't happen without major reconstruction of the structure so :frown:.

The only thing I have to say about this whole comparison is you can't really compare the entire DLR to the entire WDW. You're comparing apples to oranges really. They aren't on the same plane at all, but there are some things that can be compared. We don't have Ohana...we need Ohana. Ohana rules all. I enjoy myself in both DLR & WDW, but DLR is the better one IMO. There is more to do in WDW obivously because WDW is 47 square miles and DLR is... not. But, 47 square miles of attractions means it takes a whole lot longer to get to everything than in DLR. People like having 47 square miles of stuff instead of DLR, and that's fine, it's their vacation. If you look at the WDW-unique stuff, it's great to see & do & I'll forward to seeing it again on my next FL trip. The stuff in common to WDW & DLR - DLR wins each & every time. Find me something both parks have that WDW has the better end of, it doesn't exist. Tower - no, Fantasmic! - no, nighttime fireworks - HA!, 50th celebration - fuggedaboutit! That leaves the stuff that's unique to DLR. Well let's see...Walt's first park, New Orleans Square, IJA...you get the point.

Clearly we see which park wins in this battle. But it's not simply because of attractions or anything else. It really comes down to the feel between DLR & WDW and how you feel while your there. I spent 3 days in WDW and 80% of the time my most predominant thought was "I wish I was home." Except for maybe Epcot, because Epcot rocks, but it's the exception. Maybe there are some readers here because you heard of VF while I was there in WDW & you've never been to DLR here. If that's you, make the trip out to CA & see what we've got here. Don't be stopped by people's jaded opinions/biases of WDW's superiority, their arguments don't stand as you can see. Come see it for yourself & I think you will be really surprised. :biggrin:

-- Peoplemover "I miss Ohana..." Matt

[krnsngr85]

I do apologize, I am sorry if your anger is making my comment worse than what it seems to be. I do apologize. Be happy I didn't say anything negative about Disneyland.

[fantasmic lover]

well i really think that a comparison DOES show that dl seems better than wdw,which i really feel is true (even if i don't agree with a lot of things on that list). but if you truly want to know the differences, you just have to experience both for yourself.

[RankoAnime]

It was very interesting to hear all these things comparing DLR and WDW, since I've never been there before. Even though you say DLR is better, I'm sure everyone agrees that WDW is worth visiting at least once, right? The only reason I'm so eager to go there is to see Stitch! :tongue:

[GreenLantern13]

You can compare the entire WDW to the entire DL because if you're a family looking for a week's vacation somewhere and you have the choice, WDW is a lot more appealing and Disney knows this.

(and their Pooh is better :P)

[Casey]

I went to WDW twice with in 12 months and LOVE WDW. It's so huge! I think it is the same size as San Francisco? Or bigger? And the property and resorts are lovely. There is so much to do there I want to go back and do the things I didn't get to do last time - but with out kids. (Like see the Cirque du Soleil show, resort hop, eat at Bomas, spend more time at Animal Kingdom, etc)

The Magic Kingdom isn't Disneyland - it's a lot bigger and there are some nice parts to it, but it's just not the same. What frustrated me the most when I was there was not knowing where the bathrooms are! LOL! I know where they are in Disneyland so I'd get confused. And Main Street isn't as charming, but they do have a cool Barber Shop there! And for a few bucks, they'll do a temp-dye on the hair and add pixie dust. They also have E Ride Night on certain nights for Resort Guests. They stay open up to three hours after the park closes so you can ride all sorts of fun rides. We were there until close to 2:AM once! I love Cinderella's Castle, too. But! When I was there...I missed Disneyland. :)

Oh, the new Stitch attraction there was disappointing. Even for us Stitch fans. I heard that they are revamping it a bit - good.

I'm rambling, sorry.

[RankoAnime]

Oh, the new Stitch attraction there was disappointing. Even for us Stitch fans. I heard that they are revamping it a bit - good.

I'm rambling, sorry.

Really? It's hard to get some good information on what it is, so I guess I just get excited because it's Stitch. The most I've seen/heard of it was when they had a thing on the Disney channel about it. Stitch looked awesome though (c'mon, at least Disneyland should bring an animatronic Stitch to DLR). Any info you have on it would be greatly appreciated!

[GreenLantern13]

It's their replacement they felt they had to do for Alien Encounters...good chance it didn't get as much effort as it should have but I dunno, haven't been on it =)

[linklewtt]

The big thing with WDW is that they are isolated from the real outside world, which i love. I love how it's very exclusive almost and you won't find a single McDonald's or other fast food places. most of the people you see in the parks are staying within the property, and you have a great sense of security. i think that the isolation idea is wonderful.

However, this i think is it's folly. As a resident of Southern California only 20 minutes away from Disneyland and the son of a CM there, i love how Disneyland is so easy to just pop by and have some fun for a few hours. I can't see myself doing that in WDW cuz it's so huge (and the weather sucks, admit it!) so i think DL's smaller size actually benefits us a lot because it feels much more homey and exclusive. Do you know what i mean by this guys?

[actress_73]

ive never really been 2 wdw but if i ever do go there, i know that it could NEVER compare 2 dL. there's just something about disneyland that is special!! in the last year i've been there three times and each time nothing gets old!! some people actually don't like disneyland which i think is CRAZY! even though you'd think i'd grow out of all the kiddie rides, i still love them!! hheehehehe! i don't think i could EVER get tired of DL!!

[Cutthroat CGM]

Perhaps the simplest way to compare the two is this: Disneyland is Walt's park, through and through. Walt Disney World, on the other hand...well, it's no coincidence that one of the first things you see as you enter Main Street is the statue of Roy O. Disney (with Minnie at his side). WDW is Roy's park, and it perhaps reflects his personality: Good and reliable, dull and unimaginative at times, and above all about making money.

Of course it took both to make the magic happen all those decades, and for that reason I'd most like to see Tokyo Disneyland (yes, above even DL which I've never been to). Since it's a fusion of the best elements of both parks, it's also a fusion of Walt and Roy's differing visions of what a theme park should be.

Of course, it goes without saying that Disneyland Paris is all Eisner, for better or worse. :icon_conf It's too early to say on HK Disneyland, though the fact that they're basing most of it directly on the Anaheim blueprints is promising.

[ScaryTrees]

I think that Disneyland has some better rides than Magic Kingdom but some of our rides like thunder mountain and splash mountain arent as good as theirs and Space Mountain has never been the same as the one in Disneyland theirs was built first and it was supposed to be their version of the Matterhorn thats why there is only 1 person per seat and i think its kinda dumb to say that DCA and MGM studios are the same cause they really arent and their tower of terror is alot better they have the fifth dimension instead of some stupid mirror scene and their drops are random unlike ours and i think that rock n rollercoaster is alot better than california screaming they have better music and they have an actual story to go with it and the kali river rapids ride is way better than our grizzly river ride too yes we have more drops but they get more wet and they have better scenery on their ride and animal kingdom is really for kids and the Dinosaur ride is their version of Indiana Jones it has the exact same track layout but theirs is just a bunch of dinosaurs running around i like indiana more but dinosaur takes your picture and i like how they do that but anyways u cant really compare WDW to DLR I like going there more than disneyland though because at wdw there is alot more to do and their hotels are better and you really feel like u arent even in florida anymore but at disneyland u can see outside of it (only on matterhorn and ToT) and see all the freeways and whatnot and they have a much bigger downtown disney with better stores and they have the water parks too dont forget that so there really isnt a comparision between the 2 resorts and i think that MGM Studios is the best park there i dont know why but i just like it more than the other parks and i think that when disneyland fans go to disney world they should actually have a good time there instead of just complaining about all the differences it has from disneyland people think that disneyland is so much better just because its the original but its not better its just different it was never supposed to be exactly the same just similar in some ways and once i saw a post of how their tower of terror sucks because u can see the tracks at the 5th dimension part but u cant really see them and they arent even tracks they are guide wires cause the elevators guide themselves through it but anywho im tired of typing all this so i think i made my point

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ :eek: Goodness me, the period & shift keys are your friend...

Interesting how 3 times you say there can't be a comparison but you then go into several poinent comparisons and then compare dissimilar things. RRc compared to CA Screamin'? Come on. They are two entirely different animals. You could say this for a lot of the comparisons you made just now.

Now if I could address this...

and once i saw a post of how their tower of terror sucks because u can see the tracks at the 5th dimension part but u cant really see them and they arent even tracks they are guide wires cause the elevators guide themselves through it

...because I said this and I wasn't dreaming either. You can very plainly see the tracks the elevator follows through what resembles Grandpa's attic w/ a TV left on. That's what the "5th dimension" room really is. It was a very underwhelming, ho-hum, "that's it?" moment for me. At least the mirror scene makes an effort to be somewhat magical and "how'd they do that?" and was a creative trick to play, as well as planting a seed in the brain that something very mysterious is about to take place. MGM's Tower never asks you to "Wave goodbye to the real world...*sizzle, crack, rumble*...for you have just entered the Twilight Zone." Do not make the mistake of downplaying this effect. IMO it was pulled off much better than the 5th dimension room.

Also plainly seen in the room was the star field on the wall where then the stars would carnivalistically moved to the doorway which opened on queue with your car. Maybe this would have been better at night instead of the middle of the day when I rode it, but that doesn't excuse it. As far as randomized drops here goes, I've posted more than once why our drop sequence, while predictable, is far superior than Tower 4. Tower 4 is random, but that doesn't mean its unpredictable elements are superior than Tower 2's predictable ones. In reality, it's very much the opposite. I will miss Tower 2's vomet comet-esque bunny hill very very greatly when Tower 4 comes in.

-- Peoplemover "A ride that has me still eagerly wanting to ride it after over 60 rides in 15 months can't be sub-par" Matt

[TopCat8]

Wow. It feels weirtd typing after reading all of these posts. It took a good 30 minutes to read all of that stuff. I have never been to WDW so all I have to say on the matter is:
1. I like Innoventions. I could spend a whole day in there and never run out of things to do.
2. A park with no Pinnochio or Rodger Rabbit would just be scary.
3. I like our ToT so much, there's no need for me to question if it's better there.
4. The Matterhorn is like the most obvious and cool thing in Disneyland. Try to imagine the park without it.:frown:
5. I'm glad to hear that our Animation Building is better. It's one of the coolest places in DCA, and I'm glad to know I'm not missing out on anything.
6. WDW just sounds like DLR, but spread out more. Bigger is not always better.
7. I would like to see the Country Bears again...I might have a reason to go to WDW after all.
8. I don't know aht I would do without adventureland the way it is. I like Tarzan's Treehouse just fine (and by just fine I mean it's just as boring as The Swiss Family one)
9. If all those seperate parks cost a seperate amount of money, it's not worth it. You'd have to go to one park to ride Space mountain and then pay another 30-40? dollars to ride Star Tours.
10. Finally, I am just biased towards the west coat. I'd rather be in an earthquake than a hurricane, so DLR's the place for me:smile: :biggrin:

[GreenLantern13]

You can get 5 day park hoppers that let you go back and forth between those different parks depending on what you feel like that day.

Their space mountain is like our matterhorn, only themed like our old space mountain(though they had it first so I guess it's their theme).

Their animation building has stunk since they got rid of real animation at disney... otherwise you could see some cool things there.

They don't have Toad's wild ride either! They have pooh, and it's better than our pooh, but they got rid of toad for it.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ Yeah you get a 5-day park-hopper for about what a Premium AP costs here and park-hopping is extra. Ugh!

-- Peoplemover "I HATE Magic Your Way!!" Matt

[TopCat8]

I like our Pooh ride just fine (but not as much as the Country Bears) I'm interested in knowing what WDW's is like. P.S. Congratulations on your 1,200th post Almandot!

[linklewtt]

I like our Pooh ride just fine (but not as much as the Country Bears) I'm interested in knowing what WDW's is like. P.S. Congratulations on your 1,200th post Almandot!
i'll tell you what it's like TopCat...it STINKS! seriously the sound quality is horrible because it sounds as if they are using an old record. but what i really hate is that WDW doesn't even take advantage of Disneyland's follow up country bears acts. The Vacation and Christmas Hoedowns i thought were very cool, yet WDW does not showcase these. instead they stick witht he original, which in reality is very primitive cuz it was made back in the day. but ya i hate that DL's costumes and bears for the other shows are rotting away when they could be put to good use. i'm sorry, but after seeing WDW's Country Bears show, you'll actually WANT to go Bear Hunting!

[TopCat8]

i'll tell you what it's like TopCat...it STINKS! seriously the sound quality is horrible because it sounds as if they are using an old record. but what i really hate is that WDW doesn't even take advantage of Disneyland's follow up country bears acts. The Vacation and Christmas Hoedowns i thought were very cool, yet WDW does not showcase these. instead they stick witht he original, which in reality is very primitive cuz it was made back in the day. but ya i hate that DL's costumes and bears for the other shows are rotting away when they could be put to good use. i'm sorry, but after seeing WDW's Country Bears show, you'll actually WANT to go Bear Hunting!
Oooh. That's harsh. I never saw the original Country Bears. I was around for the Vacation Hoedown though. I really liked that show. I think that they should move it to DCA in the foresty area by Grizzly River Run.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ It makes sense for bears to be in there, but not country bears really. You don't get many banjo groups in SoCal or NorCal for that matter.

-- Peoplemover "A banjo group wouldn't last 5 seconds in Compton :eek: " Matt

[linklewtt]

Oooh. That's harsh. I never saw the original Country Bears. I was around for the Vacation Hoedown though. I really liked that show. I think that they should move it to DCA in the foresty area by Grizzly River Run.
na, they have space in Disneyland. it should make a comeback and be put in the petting zoo area...soooooo much space! besides, WDW's Bears are in Frontierland, so DL's if need be can also be in there

[linklewtt]

besides, the crowds won't do it justice if it's stuck in DCA, am i right, am i right?

[TopCat8]

^ It makes sense for bears to be in there, but not country bears really. You don't get many banjo groups in SoCal or NorCal for that matter.

-- Peoplemover "A banjo group wouldn't last 5 seconds in Compton :eek: " Matt
They play banjo music in that place already. I remember when I stayed at the Grand Californian, that music really started getting on my nerves. Anyway, now that this post is sufficiently off topic, I'm going to bed. I can barely see what I'm typing after having my contacts in for a good 15 hours.

[Fantasmic!kid]

Because Eisner screwed it up

[Wendell]

Ok people. The main purpose of this whole comparison that I wrote was to point out that DL has higher quality rides in most of our opinions and that Walt's spirit adds a lot to the place. WDW doesn't have that gift. As an earlier post said, DL was Walt's park. Disney World would never have Walt's spirit. I bet he is turning over in his grave over what they did to his idea for the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. :frown: Read the following from The Walt Disney Family Museum website to find out more:

Walt's Masterworks
EPCOT

The Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow (EPCOT) was very much on Walt's mind during the last few years of his life. But Epcot as it is today bears scant resemblance to Walt's dream. He imagined Epcot as a real city, in which tens of thousands of people could work and live -- and enjoy the latest technologies produced by American corporations. Walt had spent decades changing the face of American entertainment; now he wanted to alter the way people lived, with refinements in sanitation, transportation, and education. As for the theme park that would become Walt Disney World, Walt intended to provide such a place as well; but as far as he was concerned, the men and women who had already designed Disneyland knew how to do that. His thoughts were on his city. The whole enterprise -- the Florida Project, as it was originally called -- was certainly going to require a lot of land. And so Walt started purchasing thousands of acres of swampland just southwest of Orlando, Florida. If residents had known that Walt Disney was purchasing huge quantities of land, the price would have skyrocketed. So when he visited, it was under a fake name, Walter E. Davis (same initials).

By the time Walt was finished, he had purchased 43 square miles in Florida -- twice the size of Manhattan, 150 times the size of Disneyland -- for about $5 million. In California, he set up a special planning room for his new city. On a family trip through British Columbia waters, just months before he died, Walt spent quiet time on deck reading books about city planning. "He'd talk for hours about the houses and how the kids would go to school," recalled Marvin Davis, a designer who was one of the few entrusted with these early, secret plans (Davis was also Walt's nephew, having married Lilly's sister's daughter, Marjorie). "He'd even talk for hours about garbage disposal. He was really engrossed in it." After Walt died, in December 1966, the future of the project was in doubt. "When he died, we all said, 'There goes Disney World,'" recalled Marvin Davis. While big brother Roy insisted that the company go through with most of the plans for Disney World -- even making sure it was named Walt Disney World -- the dreams of a city of tomorrow didn't survive. Without Walt, the vision simply lacked the visionary.

Okay. Now, have any of you that have been to WDW been on the Peoplemover there? Show of hands? Good, I see several. How many of you have seen the model of a huge city when going inside a building while riding it. Well, that was supposed to be EPCOT. For you older people, remember Progress City on the Carousel of Progress while it was at Disneyland? That was Epcot. the model is now on the Peoplemover.

Here is a verbal description of what the place was going to be:

People would land at an airport of the future or drive into EPCOT through an entrance area, where they would board a high-speed monorail. From there, they would go through an industrial park, then through the main city, and if they continue, to an area with space for three or four parks.

The City: The City would be in the shape of a wheel. In the center of the city would be a highrise hotel and convention center. Surrounding the hotel, would be downtown streets replicating streets around the world, and office buildings, all would be completely covered and climate controlled. Outside this cover, would be the high-density apartment housing. Surrounding the center, would be a green belt with sport fields and a golf course. Jutting off of these, would be suburbs and low density housing. Cars would be banned from the downtown and suburb streets. Instead, people would use Peoplemover cars to get to and from town. They would be continuosly moving through stations downtown, greenbelt, over schools, and into suburbs. Cars would use private restricted roads between the sets of suburb houses and underground onto a freeway out of Epcot.

The Industrial park would be much the same way. It would be set up like an attractive city park, and would be much like today's Innoventions, showcasing new technologies. Transportation would be by Peoplemover.

The parks would include today's Magic Kingdom and maybe two or three others.

Well, that's Epcot, where pedestrian is king and Peoplemovers are main transportation. Transit to Industrial Parks, Theme Parks, and Entrance would be by monorail. Wasn't this a much better plan than today's confusing maze of streets and parks spread out, just what Walt didn't want to happen? Any comments? :icon_ques

[linklewtt]

well come on that's not very fair. EPCOT is not what Walt wanted, but what he wanted was virtually impossible. i like what the designers did with EPCOT. it was one of Walt's desires to have the park showcase new inventions and things and they kinda do that in innoventions, although not to the degree that they do in DL's version of the attraction. so at least the designers incorporated some of Walt's dreams, but really a living communtiy where people lived and worked AND guests came and went? absolutely impossible.

[Wendell]

EPCOT would just be a regular city. People come to San Diego where people live. They go to the city's parks. The same would go for Epcot, but in a new setting

[barfownz]

This is the first of a series of posts by me that will compare/contrast the Disneyland Resort Parks with the Disney World Parks. These comparisons include close cousins of rides, such as Kali River Rapids at Animal Kingdom and Grizzly River Run at DCA. Well, let's start with Magic Kingdom and Disneyland.

Volume 1: Main Street and Adventueland

Upon entering Disney World's Magic Kingdom, you could tell you are in a different park. You have to take a ferry or monorail to get to the park's enterance.

Disneyland's is accesible by foot, and only a couple hundred feet from the tram station

Main Street USA:

-Disney World: Okay. At Disneyworld, they do have the train station and horsedrawn street cars and fire trucks. Instead of a real main street cinema, we have another *gasp* store! The Main Street Cinema is just a place to go buy the "Pal" Mickey!

There is no opera house. Instead, there is a restaurant. I prefer the Walt Disney Story better. Notice I didn't complain about no Great Moments, because Lincoln is in Liberty Square (more on that later.) The shops I found to be smaller, and the Candy Shop not as ornate. There is no Wonderland Music shop.

Aside from these, Main Street USA is about the same in decor, except that Main Street itself is wider than at DL.

-Disneyland: Our Main Street has Fire Trucks, a Train Station, and Horse Drawn Streetcars as well. However, on Main Street, we also have The Walt Disney Story featuring Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln. Now for the 50th it is an exhibit, but still better than a restaurant. The Main Street Cinema actually shows classic Mickey Mouse cartoons. :p We could make our own CDs at the Wonderland music shop. We have a better restaurant, Walt Disney's Plaza Inn. Our shops are more ornate and carry more merchandise as opposed to Disney World's.

Perhaps the biggest difference in Main Street is that Walt Disney lived in the apartment above the fire house in DL. I believe his spirit adds a lot to Main Street and the rest of the park as opposed to the so-called "magic" of Disney World.

Adventureland:

Disney World - The detail that surprised me most was that the entrance wasn't as detailed. Just two posts with a sign saying Adventureland.

Here, instead of Indiana Jones, we have Alladin's Magic Carpets, somewhat of a clone of Dumbo the Flying Elephant in Alladin Style. A huge letdown.

The Enchanted Tiki Room: Under New Management. This show sucked. I hate how they still had Jose and the others singing while the parrot from Alladin and Zazu were cracking dry jokes, which # 1 were not funny and just ruined the show. I say Disneyland's original is much better.

The Jungle Cruise was just the same, maybe a few diffrences but not much.

Pirates of the Carribbean. Disney World better rethink this. I don't see how I'm cursed when I hadn't seen treasure until the end. I missed not going through the Blue Bayou and going down two waterfalls. The ending was a lot drier than DLs, no going up the waterfall.

Finally, they have one good thing that I want back: The Swiss Family Treehouse, which even now isn't as good as the one we had before Tarzan moved in.

Disneyland:

Okay, real adventure. The enterance has primitive relics. The Enchanted Tiki Room is the same except for one song, and is much more entertaining than Zazu taking over the show. I loved seeing the Tiki's in the garden once again.

The Jungle Cruise: The Same, except queue is much more interesting here.

Indiana Jones: A much better substitute than Alladin's Magic Carpets huh? I love going through the temple of the forbidden eye, and the ride always being different.

The Tarzan Treehouse is interesting, but I like Swiss Family better.

Again, the themeing in Adventureland is better, and Walt's spirit in both make it much more magical. Disney World just has to put in a few more attractions.

Coming Up:

Frontierland, New Orleans, Critter Country, and Liberty Square!


wdw has mickey's toontown fair instead of mickeys toontown

[Wendell]

sorry, I just abbreviated it. The point is, ours is better. Why? Because you can see Mickey and Minnie at their homes. Sorry if anyone disagrees. This comparison, after all, is one man's opinion.

[barfownz]

sorry, I just abbreviated it. The point is, ours is better. Why? Because you can see Mickey and Minnie at their homes. Sorry if anyone disagrees. This comparison, after all, is one man's opinion.

i always wanted to go to walt disney world since i was little, and now since i have gone i was very unhappy with some of the rides there

[Disneyland_Wolf]

i always wanted to go to walt disney world since i was little, and now since i have gone i was very unhappy with some of the rides there

Like what kind of rides?

[barfownz]

Like what kind of rides?

potc, hm, etc

[Disneyland_Wolf]

Why? What's wrong with them? Are they a bit different from our DL's?

[barfownz]

Why? What's wrong with them? Are they a bit different from our DL's?

they r shorter and boringer

[Disneyland_Wolf]

Ahh, then we all go to Tokyo Disneyland and Tokyo Disneysea, cause those rides are long and fun. Even the park is clean and polite, Disneysea and TDL is done very well. Japan Rocks!!!

[barfownz]

Ahh, then we all go to Tokyo Disneyland and Tokyo Disneysea, cause those rides are long and fun. Even the park is clean and polite, Disneysea and TDL is done very well. Japan Rocks!!!


i just bought the opening day map of disney hong kong online

[ScaryTrees]

I still dont think that just because WDW was never what it was supposed to be means that Disneyland is better. Some rides are better at Disneyland and some are better at WDW. I saw the model of what EPCOT what was supposed to be while riding TTA and I thought it was very kool but I never knew what it was supposed to be until I saw that one post earlier and I would really wanna see that city be built now they should build it in Las Vegas cause it gets very hot here and we need climate control lol jk but anyway it isnt fair that most people think Disneyland is way way way better just because they go there more and it is pretty much all crammed into 2 parks right next to eachother than a big wide open space where everything is spread out more but I do think that the parks could have been a little closer together though I think that if they built all 6 parks going around the lake and had EPCOT in front that they could have built the actual city and it would have looked alot better than it is now I can see what it would look like if it was like that but I cant describe it that good but oh well and I'm sure that some people would like that idea and other people would hate it but yea i think i went off topic a little and i dont know where i was going with that im just really really tired and hyper at the same time from 7 energy drinks so im gonna go lay down for a while

[linklewtt]

ya have you ever been to disneyland? the smaller size of the pak for some reason makes it more dear to peoples' hearts, you know what i mean? it sounds crazy but it's the truth!

[ScaryTrees]

I go to Disneyland twice every year and I think that smaller size has some advantages and some disadvantages same thing for a bigger sized park or area
but the reason why I loved WDW so much was because I go to Disneyland alot and I went to WDW once in my life and everything was so different there and there is alot more to do and I had the best 2 weeks of my life because I knew it was Disney just not Disneyland which is something I do alot but WDW only happed to me once and Im lucky enough to actually go back next June and I was only disappointed in their Space Mountain I actually did expect it to be better than ours for some reason but it doesnt matter all that much theirs is still good and different and I like that its different and not exactly the same why would anyone wanna go there if it was exactly the same as Disneyland its kind of a waste but when I go to WDW I dont try to look for ways Disneyland is better or worse I just go there to have fun and I really do have so much more fun than I do when I go to Disneyland and I know that people are gona say what are you crazy but its true and I dont know why

[Wendell]

Another thing I liked about Disneyland was that the main attractions of the resort were all in one area. Downtown Disney, DCA, and DL were all neighbors. You don't have to take a bus to get anywhere on the resort. It's great!

[twinkletoes]

I grew up going to WDW and I thought it was the best. Then I went to DLR for the first time about 7 years ago and WOW what a difference! You talk about the spirit of Walt...well, you can certainly feel it at Disneyland. I don't know how to explain it, except that the "feeling" is just different. Could be that I'm just older and more sentimental, I don't know, but I do love disneyland very much. I'm trying to get my brother and his family to go there. He lives in Oregon and still travels back to WDW instead of DLR. I know he would feel the same way.

[111702]

I really want to love DisneyWorld, but I don't. In fact, I hate it. Compared to Disneyland, it's really cheap and not as good. Sure it's big, but it really isn't that good. If people want a magical experience, come to the first park, Disneyland!

[disneylandkid]

i totaly agree with you 111702! while disneyworld gets everything we get nothing.4 example it disneyland's 50th not disneyworlds yet they get like 7 things but we only get like 4 things. they celebrated walt disney's 100 b-day but we didnt. even on tv: when tv shows(Full House, Family Matters and more...) go to a disney park they always go to disneyworld. i have only seen one tv show that takes place in disneyland. why does disneyworld get all the attention while we get nothing, if it wasnt for DL they wouldnt have anything!!!:mad:

now im going to my corner to calm down!!!

[linklewtt]

^^cuz it's bigger for a tv crew. besides if you watch those shows you'll notice that the episode takes place in like all of the parks, which back then was impossible unless they paid to go into the parks all on one day. also WDW is like the most popular family vacation destination, and DL isn't, which i actually like. also WDW HAS the land to build on. i'm sure you know that they have soo much land that they could duplicate all 4 parks and 2 waterparks twice AND STILL have room for more parks. that's insane right? they could start their own city in there, which they kinda already have huh.

[Wendell]

Well... I would not consider Disney World a city. Let's see it has:

4 Theme Parks
2 Water Parks
2 Shopping Districts
Numerous Hotels
4 Golf Courses
1 Camping Area
public transit

What's missing? How about homes, offices, services, grocery stores...

Do you get the picture? I wouldn't consider it a city.

[ryguy222]

exactly, I mean Disney World is good in some sense but they only hvae quantity not Quality like Disneyland Does. You do know of course now Anaheim needs a Cirque Du Soleil Show.
true that but there are some good rides like missions space, testtrack

[linklewtt]

Well... I would not consider Disney World a city. Let's see it has:

4 Theme Parks
2 Water Parks
2 Shopping Districts
Numerous Hotels
4 Golf Courses
1 Camping Area
public transit

What's missing? How about homes, offices, services, grocery stores...

Do you get the picture? I wouldn't consider it a city.

maybe not a city where you live, but think about it...it has offices, it has places to buy food, and it has places to live for a while. what i really meant was that it's so well isolated that it could be its own private gated community, and that's exactly what it is, just not somewhere where people actually live.

but ya, there are offices...people do work there you know.

[Clotho]

I agree with those who said you can't really compare the two. They have totally different feels to them. I went to WDW last year for the first time, wanting to go since I was a pre-teen, and it wasn't as grand a scale as I expected, but I still had a great time!

As for the Magic Kingdom vs. Disneyland debate, there are three things I found that were strikingly different:

1) Disneyland was designed carefully so you couldn't really experience two lands at once. meaning, they tweaked sight lines and themeing so when you are in Fantasyland, you can't see into Tomorrowland unless you are heading that way. At MK, the lands were more open, and you could see from one into another, and the transitions/theming weren't as strong.

2) I liked the food way better at WDW, and of course there are SO MANY OPTIONS. But even just comparing MK to DL, MK had better options, more non-greasy choices, and the prices were much better.

3) Fantasyland in MK is really weak compared to DL. Considering they have a humongous castle right there, the scale of the surrounding land could have matched it. They have the room! But instead the facades are cheesy in MK, and the scale of the land is so small, the castle dwarfs it, making it feel even dinkier.

I have to say, Philharmagic was one of the best experiences I have had in any park in a long time. I hope they bring it out to DCA--that backlot needs more, and I think it would fit great in there! I felt I had really "arrived" when I saw that show, because it captured magic and great new technology all in one experience. Kudos!

[k_peek_2000]

okay u got some of ur facts mixed up. DW's Space Mountain, is our matterhorn. theres no way its the same thing. I heard that our buzz lightyear was better than dw's. I think DLR's Magic Kingdom is THE Magic Kingdom. And DW's Is just another disneyland remake with a bigger castle.

[linklewtt]

^^HA, well i wouldn't go that far and say that the Magic Kingdom is just Disneyland witha bigger castle. although i think Disneyland is better, the Magic Kingdom is bigger and spacier and i like it a lot. Also their Space Mountain is not our Matterhorn. ya they have 2 tracks, but it's mostly like the old SM at Disneyland...not really anything like the Matterhorn at all. Although they put it in there so they too would ahve another mountain, the two rides are noting alike except for the bobsled cars.

[wendydarling3]

I have to say, I'm a little dissappointed in the way yal think. You really cannot compare Disneyland and Disney World. They both have their good and bad points. My family and I didn't go to Disneyland's Magic Kingdom until this year because we always were like who wants to go see a clone of WDW. We were wrong. They are two totally different parks. I was amazed by just how different everything is. I'm a Cast Memeber at WDW now, but some of the things you say are kinda hurtful. Like some of your things really dont click about what our parks really are. At WDW we are a city. Wendell says we just have parks, water parks, shopping areas, hotels, golf courses, and public transportation. But we have so much more. We have everything that basically makes up a town, we have our own fire, police, and emergency units; water sewer systems; construction and maintaining of roads and such are all their own seperate entity called Reedy Creek. We also do have an actual town that is supposed to represtent "Walt's" dream for EPCOT and that's called Celebration.
Now about the parks. There were things I like better at both parks. In Disneyland I loved the Haunted Mansion Holiday and Pirates and the whole New Orleans concept. It was so much fun spending time in that area. I like how Splash Mountain and Thunder Mountain are in different land at Disneyland, but having them together at WDW makes it so much easier and I love being able to run from one to another. Fantasyland at Disneyland is awesome, I must agree. I miss Mr. Toad's Wild Ride at WDW so it was sooo cool getting to see it again. But you don't have Philharmagic and that just makes our Fantasyland so much fun. You just go on that ride and feel full of the Disney spirit. And I love being able to eat up in the castle espically during our fireworks. Toontowns in both the parks need to be redone. They bore me to death. Our Tomorrowland I think is better. I love our buzz, it seems longer than Disneylands. And when I went on DL Space Mountain I really missed seeing the chocolate chip cookies on the ceiling. But I like both the rides. Really I guess it's all just going into it with a good opinion and just trying to ave fun. They're two different parks, which is a good thing. Who wants to see the same thing twice? There is still magic at both parks.
I will say though one thing that WDW seems to do better is food and service. Not to say that I didn't enjoy my food at DL because I did a lot. But the food at WDW as a whole is better. At a lot of places in DL it just seemed to be hamburgers and fries. I missed my Liberty Tree Tavern with the best salmon I've ever had. And Tony's on Main Street is a great restaurant. I know it doesn't replace Walt's story and celebrating 50 years but every time I eat there I feel like I'm in Lady and the Tramp. Another thing I didn't quite enjoy about DL was the service. Yeah the cast memebers were kind of friendly, but it was more of a hello, goodbye, moving on to the next customer. When my family and I were getting on Space Mountain with our fast passes the cast memeber put us in the wrong line and then the next person we asked gave us this snotty attitude like it was our fault we followed the first person's direction. Plus, everywhere I went I would see cast memebers just standing behind the counter or just talking to another cast memeber ingoring the guests. To me this is a big no no. You should always be willing to help and make a "magical moment". Even if you are talking to your friend you should have a eye out for guests who need help. One of the mottos I learned at WDW was you should say hi to every guests because you never know when it will make someone's day. I never once had anyone just take the time to ask about my day and say hi. I missed that feeling. That was part of the Disney magic that I enjoy.
In other words, I enjoy both parks. I enjoy both places. You just have to accept they're going to be different and just have a good time. It's all Disney Magic. It's all there for everyone young and old to have a good time.
I could go further because I think some of yal are seriously wrong about MGM and EPCOT. It's ok that you didn't like the parks but I don't think you quite got what the parks were about and how to enjoy them.

[carlosbrown45]

disneyland and WDW are two diffrent things. somethings in WDW is better than some things in DLR. fantasyland here in CA doesnt have any room for new attractions. but we do have mr toad here they dont.i also like that wdw has animal kingdom. the other day i was watching a home video of my family going to wdw. i laughed hard when my sister couldnt stand next to rafiki for 10 sec. but i love dlr better cause i have more memories there. i cant really judge cause i havent been to wdw in like 8 years so im sure it has to be good (although i already judged). so next summer im going to wdw so lets see.

[krnsngr85]

There is one difference that sets Disneyland and Disney World apart, and unfortunately I pity Disney World for having to make this decision. If you really think about it, we are the only Disney Theme park in the United States that has a Mr. Toads Wild Ride, WDW got rid of theirs for Winnie the Pooh(was that a good decision?????). The only thing I would want to change for our park is to make a second row for Mr. Toads Wild Ride, that way you can fit 4 people, rather than 2.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Remember @ WDW Winnie the Pooh is actually a decent ride to go on.

-- Peoplemover "It even has FastPass still!" Matt

[HollandBrynn1104]

Remember @ WDW Winnie the Pooh is actually a decent ride to go on.

-- Peoplemover "It even has FastPass still!" Matt


I remeber thinking that too. Probably because they had more space to work with, the Fantasyland rides were a bit longer and more story-involved. My family and I were joking about how Snow White actually made sense after riding it, because there was more storyline during the ride.

[WDW Fan]

Well... I would not consider Disney World a city. Let's see it has:

4 Theme Parks
2 Water Parks
2 Shopping Districts
Numerous Hotels
4 Golf Courses
1 Camping Area
public transit

What's missing? How about homes, offices, services, grocery stores...

Do you get the picture? I wouldn't consider it a city.

It almost is for me. It's so all-inclusive that it's the only theme park my family will go to, and we can go several times a year (at least 10 days on the June trip.) So in my mind, it sort of is a city. Hands down, my favorite place on Earth.

[koutesu]

I've only been to Disneyland because it's cheaper for a family that lives in Arizona. We can drive there in 6 1/2 hours. Sure the park is in the middle of SoCal's urban density, but we get so many hotel options there. If your hotel is on Harbor Blvd, all you have to do is walk across the street. If you're on Ball Rd (behind DL), a short walk is all you have to take to get to the Mickey and Friends Parking Tram. Katella Ave hotels are still walking distance (it can get a little far, though) to the gates and the Monorail. Wouldn't you have to drive into the resort if you stay off property for WDW?

I don't know about some WDW travellers (I'm using some, not all, since it doens't apply to everyone), I can't imagine travelling all the way to FL to go to water parks and golf courses. I live in the Phoenix area, so we have 3 waterparks and a lot of golf courses (very nice golf courses in Scottsdale). It wouldn't be worth it to me.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Staying off property for WDW would be like getting a hotel in Burbank, Irvine, Hollywood, Covina, etc for Disneyland. You need a car/bus just to navigate anywhere within WDW itself much less in/out of it. Walking from an off-property hotel there is simply impossible.

-- Peoplemover "It's more like park commuting there than park hopping" Matt

[Wendell]

Does anybody here think that Disney World's system transit system should have been updated a long time ago? When they opened the first park, the monorail carried guests to all points of interest. Then when EPCOT opened, they extended the monorail line there. What prompted them to stop the monorail at EPCOT and not continue on to the other parks, Water Parks, and points of interest?

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Um, I don't think people fresh out of a water park would be good for public transportation, especially monorails. So many chemicals from the water combined with so much exposed skin on parents, teens, kids, etc from bathing suits of various styles over time can produce a very ugly situation unless extreme care is taken. Buses or cars are ok for that as it's not a steady stream there.

I wish the monorail was extended to Animal Kingdom & MGM Studios at least. MGM's certainly been there long enough & it was a real pain having to use the buses to get there. Of course the increased costs of building, running, staffing & upkeep must be considered. Plus it wouldn't surprise me at all if someone figured out that monorail stops decrease parking lot revenues. I mean, if someone there figured out that you could park at DtD, ride buses/monorails everywhere & not pay a dime in parking (WDW's set up differently than here) then they'd have to either fix that quickly or have a big problem. Just having the Epcot (it's not EPCOT! ...sorry, pet peeve) extension creates a tolerable medium between everything right now. It's not really easier to use anything, so you really need to use everything to get around.

-- Peoplemover "Those buses aren't cheap, might be much cheaper in the L/T to go strictly monorail in terms of fuel costs....Hmmm...." Matt

[ryguy222]

i think disney world isn't as good but it is worth visiting tower of terror has the fifth demsion and is taller and has longer drops. In this case it is the orginal. Rock'n rollercoaster way better then screamin i don't care about aerosmith not fitting with disney it goes faster and has a loop and a couple corcksrews which i love! Test track is one of my favorties it goes almost sixty miles per hour and is still faster then screamin. I also like that it has the testing place with the brake test, heat test, cold test, rust test, its awesome. Mission space is the best in the whole resort. I think it should replace inoventions i mean its like an arcade for computer nerds so you see the asimo its called internet. You can easily find info on the asimo. Mission space hasn't made me hurl, but it is very intense like an elephant sitting on your chest. But i like how you can interact with the ride.

[tnicnat]

I've read this post in interest - we now live on the east coast, and well being a previous long time AP holder for DL (born and bred OC'er here) I've decided instead of going home to CA next summer, we'll go to WDW. We can drive (a day and a half), I've priced a weeks vacation at hotel and tix at $2000 for where we would like to stay - I could go cheaper but we have until next June to figure it out. I figure since we are 'here' we might as well go, right? Then knowing me we'll turn and go to CA soon after and compare the parks LOL

[koutesu]

Well, if anyone wants to visit a theme park that's a happy marriage between the two, there's always Tokyo Disneyland.

I find out about classic attractions being closed down or altered in the Magic Kingdom I think it's sad. I've never experienced Alien Encounter, but I think it's a shame it was replaced by an inferior Stitch show. I'm very grateful DL's Tiki Room is still the classic show. Could the Magic Kingdom be entering a dark age similar to what Disneyland has recently come out of?

[111702]

For some reason I HATE WDW!!!:mad:

I just think it's a cheap rip-off of Disneyland!!!:mad:

BOO WDW!!!:mad:

(To those of you that are HUGE WDW fans, sorry about the ranting, but I REALLY don't like WDW...)

[Disneyland_Wolf]

Only the Magic Kingdom is.

Including Fantasmic!

[Alex_Toto_Disneyland]

I think disneyland rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The_real_simmer_3]

Well... I would not consider Disney World a city. Let's see it has:

4 Theme Parks
2 Water Parks
2 Shopping Districts
Numerous Hotels
4 Golf Courses
1 Camping Area
public transit

What's missing? How about homes, offices, services, grocery stores...

Do you get the picture? I wouldn't consider it a city.

But disney owns a city close to WDW, CELEBRATION, Florida (http://www.celebrationfl.com/).
http://www.celebration-florida-celebration-usa.com/Celebration-map.jpg
See what i mean?That yellow blot right at the bottom of the map.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

WDW actually is its own city. It has its own building codes, its own fire & police dept's, & its own zip code. There's probably more than that but that's what comes off the top of my head.

-- PMM :cool:

[Ezra]

WDW actually is its own city. It has its own building codes, its own fire & police dept's, & its own zip code. There's probably more than that but that's what comes off the top of my head. There are Disney employees who live on property also, in two little trailer parks, one called City of Lake Buena Vista, and the other called City of Bay Lake. It's mostly a technical formality that keeps Disney in control of building codes and whatnot. The only people who live there are the "City Officials" and people employed by the Disney owned Bay Lake Power & Water and the (Disney Controlled) government entity entitled Reedy Creek Improvement District (http://www.rcid.org/). Then there was all that extra land to the south, and since the folks at Disney decided not to build Walt's Proposed Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow, they developed it into the city of Celebration instead. :rolleyes: I wanted to live in a city with PeopleMovers, durn it! I guess I can settle for the new streetcars we have here... :frown:

[chelsealela]

Personaly I prefer WDW over DL..... please don't hurt me....lol

[MrNasty]

They both have pros and cons.

Disneyland Cons-
1. Very tight walkways, even on slightly busier days, it can be quite a pain to maneuver around so many people.
2. Lots of kiddie rides. Many rides in Fantasyland and Toontown just aren't exciting for older generations.
3. Main Street is nice but the road leading to the castle is just not wide enough. Even on slow days there is still tons of people to get around.

Pros-
1. Great detail and scenery around the park.
2. Very well thought out attractions
3. The updated Fantasyland is the best Fantasyland out of all Magic Kingdoms.
4. California Adventure is only steps away.
5. Everything is always kept in tip-top shape and never deteriorates over time.

Magic Kingdom cons-
1. For such a larger park, it still has fewer attractions than Disneyland.
2. Pirates is a fraction of the length Disneyland's is.
3. A surely hideous Fantasyland in certain areas, ride facades like Small World, Snow White and Peter Pan definitely need to get into the 21st century and not the 70's.
4. Toontown Fair- Meh is all I can say.

Pros-
1. Wider Walkways, like I stated about Disneyland earlier, some paths are just too squished, however I am glad that when they built California Adventure they built wider walkways to give guests some personal space.
2. Liberty Square looks very nice and the Haunted Mansions facade looks great!
3. Some wonderful Disney classics still lurk around ei: Country Bears, Swiss Family TreeHouse, Peoplemover etc.
4. While I personally like Disneyland's new paint job Castle more, many seem to love Cinderella Castle more so I put this in pros.

[RollingBoulder]

I like them both, but I think I lean more towards DLR. I'll let my Disney nerdiness shine as well, and list the pros and cons for my tastes.

WDW Pros:

4 parks, more to do.
Larger DTD
Better hotel choice, with actual budget options
Decent transportation system for its size
More all-encompassing Disney experience


WDW Cons:

Across the country and requires more time, so it's harder to find the time to go there.
Even with a decent transportation system, it's still tough to get around.
The only park that I feel matches up to Disneyland is Epcot.


Disneyland Resort Pros:

Much easier to get to from WA and I can have a great Disney experience in just a long weekend.
Everything is within walking distance.
A nice DTD for it's size.


Disneyland Resort Cons:

Not the all-encompassing experience that WDW provides.
Feels like the city of Anaheim is breathing down its neck, so to speak.
Smaller (but nice) DTD.
Less to do inside the resort.
No real hotel option for those on a budget


Magic Kingdom Pros:

Larger pathways
Improved Splash mountain
Still has its Peoplemover (TTA)
Nice Tomorrowland, with a pretty successful makeover.


Magic Kingdom Cons:

For some odd reason, the park feels more outdated to me. Hasn't aged quite as well.
Cinderella Castle is large, but is more of an eyesore than a centerpiece.
Overall, I feel the space wasn't used to its full potential (i.e. The back half of Tomorrowland).
Fantasyland and Toontown Fair need an update STAT, nothing more to say about that.
More tropical atmosphere of Adventureland doesn't capture my imagination, like Disneyland's jungle atmosphere.
Space Mountain and Pirates are very disappointing.
Haunted Mansion needs an upgrade, and the added scenes didn't make up for what it's lacking.
Tiki Room upgrade could have been so much better.
No Mr. Toad :(



Disneyland Pros:

The park has aged gracefully. It feels historic, without looking outdated.
A larger number and a better mix of attractions
I generally enjoy the atmosphere and theming more at Disneyland.
Has my favorite attraction, Indiana Jones.
Much better Pirates and Space Mountain.
Still has Mr. Toad :p
Still has the tried and true original Tiki Room.
Matterhorn makes a more neutral centerpiece.


Disneyland Cons:

Feels more crowded with the smaller pathways.
No Peoplemover.
Tomorrowland is still trying to find its identity.
Splash Mountain pales in comparison.


I do think some attractions, like the Jungle Cruise, are better at the Magic Kingdom. But since I'm not a huge Jungle Cruise fan in general, it doesn't sway me either way. And attractions, like Country Bear Jamboree and Swiss Family Treehouse, I honestly just don't miss as much as I do, say... The Peoplemover, so those don't really sway my opinion either.

[poohsblue]

i went to both dlr n wdw. both parks seem to have the same rides but wdw doesnt have the matterhorn. thunder mountain line went down to catch the mine train instead of going up like dlr. the space mountain had two tracks instead of one like dlr. the pirate ride at wdw lets you out at the end of the ride.

[roxystar68]

I just think DL has more magic since Walt was actually there to guide the whole thing.

[Lorna phillips]

There are +'s and -'s to both parks,Disneyland- + better pirates,better haunted mansion,New Orleans square, Indiana Jones ride, blue Byou rest.,Matahorn. Disneyworld +-more to do, Cinderella's Castle, Atlantic Seaboard mainstreet, Hall of presidents, Animal Kingdom, World showcase at Epcot, Elluminations, MGM- better Tower of Terror and comfortable statium seating at Fantasmic,Pleasure Island, Parasailing, horseback riding, 2 water parks, DisneyQuest-design your own rollercaster and ride it.mission space.
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:icon_lol: :icon_lol: There are +'s and -'s to both parks,Disneyland- + better pirates,better haunted mansion,New Orleans square, Indiana Jones ride, blue Byou rest.,Matahorn. Disneyworld +-more to do, Cinderella's Castle, Atlantic Seaboard mainstreet, Hall of presidents, Animal Kingdom, World showcase at Epcot, Elluminations, MGM- better Tower of Terror and comfortable statium seating at Fantasmic,Pleasure Island, Parasailing, horseback riding, 2 water parks, DisneyQuest-design your own rollercaster and ride it.mission space.

[chelsealela]

Take a Chill Pill you guys!!!!!!

[disneycraze045]

I've never went to WDW personally, but I've had friends and family members go to both DLR and WDW and they hardly like WDW at all. They say that everything is spread too far out and that Disneyland is much better all-around than the Magic Kingdom. Also, they say they enjoy the Tomorrowland in Disneyland better than the Magic Kingdom.

[k_peek_2000]

I think the fact that Disneyland is smaller in size makes it much more atmosperic. For example, I watched videos of Splash Mountain at both DL and MK. Now WDW's has far more animatronics and has a good story and is just about better in a whole lot of ways, but when you get to the top of the drop, you see Cinderella Castle and Space Mountain right smack infront of your face killing the whole animal like atmosphere. But when you hit the drop and DL's all you see is trees. That in my opinion encoloses the whole Splash Mountain, middle of the jungle tree thing.

This is how I conciter Disneyland.

Okay when you watch the movie Titanic, you see a tiny steam boat pulling that huge ship out of the dock. That's how I conciter Disneyland. Its the tiny steam ship pulling the Titanic (which is Disneyworld). I think its funny that the Titanic sinks at the end of the movie and the steam boat is still around today as a historical artifact.

-k_peek

[StarTours101]

DLand is the origional and still the best, however when I go all the way to CA from PA,(Dont Hurt Me) its to go to Magic Mountain. I love the disney rides, but I love RollerCoasters More.

[Mighty Unicorn]

Disneyland Resort is better for the fact that it's the original. There never will be a substitute. It's more homey, more cozy, and more "real" than DWR.

Disneyworld has some really cool stuff, but it's colder, more prefab and industrial. The one thing that I will give to DWR, though, is that it is MASSIVE. And I mean, MASSIVE beyond imagination. It's completely HUGE. The scope of the place is just ridiculous. It goes on and on and on.... I was pretty much most impressed just by the sheer size of the place, but not by its atmosphere or presentation... It just doesn't have "that feeling" that Disneyland resort does.

Hans