View Full Version : Disneyland's Fantasmic or WDW's Fantasmic
damxcnsxcn
09-02-2005, 06:24 PM
Which do you prefer better? I feel that DL fantasmic is WAY better!!! It seems like it is more proffesional and the whole mountain idea thing is really cheesy. But thats my opinion
**NO OFFENSE TO FANS OF WDW'S FANTASMIC**
damxcnsxcn
09-02-2005, 06:28 PM
hahahahaha 100%
linklewtt
09-02-2005, 06:45 PM
it's not that the mountain is cheesy, it's actually cool when Mickey appears at the end in his famous Fantasia robe and hat on an actual mountain. plus the MGM one has an actual stadium, which would make DL's version absolutely PERFECT, but, ya DL's looks so much more professional with their Columbia and Mark Twain...without those two things it's just weird...and also MGM's Mark Twain looks like it came from Compton or something lol (no offense to Comptoners)...i don't think anyone would prefer MGM's to DL's ORIGINAL!
PeoplemoverMatt
09-02-2005, 06:54 PM
Walking down the exit of the WDW Fantasmic! Stadium I was shaking my head. I simply couldn't believe WDW did that bad a job of copying Disneyland's Fantasmic!. I'll give up the stadium seating for our version of Fantasmic! any day of the week. Not having a special stadium is one of the most important parts of Disneyland's show. The Rivers of America literally come alive, it's more or less real if you ignore the show lights n' such. Mickey on a mountain in the finale is great, but a tugboat is not the Mark Twain & pointless Pocahontas stage show doesn't replace the Peter Pan pirate ship scene. Don't even get me started on the absence of Kaa & the dancing monkeys...
-- Peoplemover "Oh look! A magic lamp! Wait...why do I need a lamp again? :icon_roll " Matt
Indy #1 Fan
09-02-2005, 07:04 PM
In place of the Peter Pan segment is a Pocahontas segement that also begins with a cannon shot. The indians attack the settlers who are building Jamestown and John Smith and Pocahontas stop them.
ScaryTrees
09-02-2005, 07:09 PM
I think WDW's is better for some reason I like it more and their boat isnt supposed to be a Mark Twain its just supposed to be a steamboat and I like the whole mountain thing too but I also like Disneylands version just not as much as Disney World
damxcnsxcn
09-02-2005, 07:10 PM
yea but its not as good as the peter pan segment! as well the choreography was a lot better at DL Pocahontas show for all the fighting.
damxcnsxcn
09-02-2005, 07:14 PM
we all have are opinions..just maybe some people dont turn on the light when writing it down.
besides the DL is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more choreagraphed esp when it comes to the Mark Twain Scene. Look at the WDW version. They just wave.
It was a cheap remake to the DL version. the only thing i might agree with is the stadium seating. but even so, half the fun is waiting for the show on the ground and having the band play on the river.
Mikokat
09-02-2005, 08:21 PM
I voted both because I like Disneyland's Mark Twain and Columbia, they are like the real thing. I also like WDW's because you get to sit in an amphitheatre and not on the ground like DL.
PeoplemoverMatt
09-02-2005, 08:36 PM
^ The only thing an ampitheatre really does, other than providing a back-less bleacher seat, is force you to watch it 7x farther away than you would have @ Disneyland.
-- Peoplemover "Acoustics are far superior in the big open-air Rivers of America" Matt
damxcnsxcn
09-02-2005, 08:39 PM
YEA! thats why it is soo useless at WDW and so awesome at DL you are practically in front of it.
Lion Sleeps Tonight
09-02-2005, 08:47 PM
I voted for the Fantasmic! at Disneyland. One of the reasons being that, as Peoplemover Matt said- the one in Florida makes you sit farther away. It's not as people-friendly? Intimate? Another reason is that I really like the contrast of atmosphere from the Columbia battleship scene to the Princess Medley. Also I enjoy the pre-show entertainment on the Rivers of America.
One of the things I didn't like about the Florida one was when Mickey finds a lamp and then Jafar goes, "Enter the Cave of Wonders!" or something to that effect. That part is just so random. But Florida does have a cool climax with the water curtain thing. Also, the steamboat is kinda cool, but not as dramatic as the Mark Twain.
Casey
09-02-2005, 08:51 PM
I prefer Disneylands, but I do like the bubbles sequence at WDW.
fantasmic lover
09-02-2005, 09:00 PM
i'd have to say that dl's version is better than wdw. wdw's isn't bad, but i just expected it to be better than it was. for instance, i absolutely LOVE the peter pan sequence! the battle on the rock just didn't seem so... exciting. but most importantly, having a separate stadium JUST for wdw's show makes it seem less magical. the idea that this island you've been staring at all day, that kids have been playing on could transform over a few hours into this incredibly magical place is amazing! (and for the out-of-towner on vacation it's almost unexpected) a stadium... just doesn't do that.
jbuck
09-02-2005, 10:21 PM
I think that WDW's is not as good beacuse there is no "No one is watching us dance" peter pan sequence.
fantasmic_boy122
09-02-2005, 10:27 PM
Disneyland's Fantasmic ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
linklewtt
09-02-2005, 10:38 PM
don't you just love it when at the end of the show Mickey's at the top Tom Sawyer Island and all he does is spread out his arms and the crowd goes crazy! people clap, kids smile, everything in the boring real world is just forgotten for that beautiful moment. it really shows you all the support disneyland has and how everlasting Mickey is as a true American icon. it's just like the best thing on earth, that moment. it makes grown men cry and familys embrace. it's great!
oh ya and i think the polls speak for themselves, my friends...DISNEYLAND'S WINS!!!!!!
brunetteTinkerbell1955
09-02-2005, 11:06 PM
DLS Fantasmic! is way better then WDW, and i mean WAY better, no offense to WDW fantasmic luvers but i think its really cheesey and the boat i understand that its the steamboat but it looks so rinky dink after Dls fantasmic, WDW fantasmic is an appitizer and DLs fantasmic is a full meal and desert! and a dole whip! lol and the pocahontas scene is nice and all but the peter pan scene at DL is way better and more interesting. I do like the bubbles scene (but we have that now in RDCT small world view lol) and i dont get the magic lamp either lol
Space Rangerlvl999
09-02-2005, 11:08 PM
I love when those indians are climbing the mountain and he gets shot and he starts falling off the mountain it looks so cool!
PeoplemoverMatt
09-03-2005, 12:35 AM
I think that WDW's is not as good beacuse there is no "No one is watching us dance" peter pan sequence.
Seriously!! Man, it is not Fantasmic! without the "No one's looking at us!" dance!
-- Peoplemover "Ranks right up there with IJA's *We ran out of money!* room! :icon_lol: " Matt
I voted for DL Fantasmic because I?ve never seen WDW Fantasmic :frown:
jagfkb
09-03-2005, 05:12 AM
I have seen both. I've only watched videos of Disneyland's Fantasmic, but have seen WDW's Fantasmic, in the front row. I find that there are two perspectives of it. In disneyland, everything is more tight toghether (Melifecent), but in WDW, everything is spaced out(Melifecent). I choose both, because i like certian scenes that the other doesn't have, like in WDW, Mickey is way higher than in DL, but DL also has Pink Elephants & Pinochio. That's why for my musical, I included both Fantasmics. But the one thing i found in both, you still get that magical feeling that you can never get anywhere else, than Disney(Land & World).
superman436
09-03-2005, 09:28 AM
Disneyland's Fantasmic is SOOOO much better! Some people have said that the only good thing about WDW's is that they have a stadium... I think this is the WORST part about it. The most magical thing about Disneyland's Fantasnmic is that all that stuff comes out of a quiet island that you yourself have been looking at and walking around all day! It just seems too set up when you walk into a stadium. It's almost like it comes out of no where when you are just sitting on the river banks and all the sudden it happens. Like Matt said earlier, it makes the rivers come alive at night.
superman436
09-03-2005, 09:30 AM
...plus, leaving out the peter pan section is like killing the whole show... WDW's Fantasmic is dead to me.
Space Rangerlvl999
09-03-2005, 04:24 PM
I have a video of the fantasmic in WDW, is that video in this website.
linklewtt
09-03-2005, 04:31 PM
I have seen both. I've only watched videos of Disneyland's Fantasmic, but have seen WDW's Fantasmic, in the front row. I find that there are two perspectives of it. In disneyland, everything is more tight toghether (Melifecent), but in WDW, everything is spaced out(Melifecent). I choose both, because i like certian scenes that the other doesn't have, like in WDW, Mickey is way higher than in DL, but DL also has Pink Elephants & Pinochio. That's why for my musical, I included both Fantasmics. But the one thing i found in both, you still get that magical feeling that you can never get anywhere else, than Disney(Land & World).
videos will not do DL's justice man. if you experienced DL's you'd probably change your mine bud
carlosbrown45
10-10-2005, 07:07 PM
DLR's fantasmic hands down. i love it its on my must see list when i go. WDW's fantasmic is okay. i hate the "hey a magic lap" and "enter the cave of wonders. why is he in there? if i was was told to i wouldnt go in. also the phocohantas scene i like its not as good as the peter pan scene but thats my girl so i cant hate. i also dont like the dancing bubbles. useless. whats the pont i dont think its that hard to set up the phocahantas scene.and the steamboat while looks like its going to sink with the characters just standing there. i love ours because we have peter, pinocho, the pink elephants,the mark twain boat, and we dont have 10 minute scenes on the mist screen. we have more action and mickey looks cool at the top of tom swayer island.:biggrin:
Ratty12345
10-10-2005, 07:09 PM
Disneyland's, I guess because its more of a classic.
Pinocchio85
10-10-2005, 10:37 PM
I think Disneyland's is way better for all of the reasons you guys have listed.
But WDW's did have some things I liked. Theirs has more water effects and I liked the bubble sequence and the Princess screen segment with Aurora & Phillip, Cinderella & Prince Charming and Aladdin & Jasmine.
Disneyland's is still 100 times better!
Xicalitlan21
10-13-2005, 01:56 AM
I have seen both Fantasmics and I really prefer the original at Disneyland. I agree with most of the people about the fact that Rivers of America "comes to life" by nightime, and that the use of the Mark Twain and Columbia add a special personality to both ships.
In WDW's version, although well executed, the Pocahontas scene (instead of Peter Pan's) just kills the momentum of the show (after the whirlwind scene), as well as the little paddleboat in the end (well, after seeing the Mark Twain, WDW's seems "small").
Nevertheless, I think that there are good segments and it's great that MGM's Fantasmic is not an exact clone of DL's, but the fact that you have to go to a specific location to wait for the show (with limited seating), makes me think that in MGM Studios you just go for the "big show to end the day", while in Disneyland you know that you are really experiencing the product of "Mickey's imagination", and you can do it from wherever you want to: you can get your place in advance all around the shore of the Rivers of America, or maybe arrive a little late and still find a good spot to watch most of the show, and even see it while walking between Splash and Big Thunder Mountain.
I mean that it's just magical to see that a couple of hours earlier, those walkways were clear and the structures with the spotlights weren't there!
Finally, DL's Fantasmic! could use a little update (as long as nothing is taken out from the main story), yet it is impressive that 13 years later, it is still the must-see attraction of Disneyland Park.
Fantasmic!kid
10-13-2005, 08:29 AM
There's so many little things in WDW that could make it look good! If you had the characters in bubbles going by on the water. And maybe drop bubbles on the audience for the bubble sequence. But I have to admit... DL'S VERSION ROCKS!
Disneyland's Fantasmic beats WDW's by a long shot... WDW's looks so low budget and uhmm sorry to say it doesnt entertain me as DIsneylands does. ooh and that Pochantas part SUCkS!! .. disneyland is better :icon_twis
HollandBrynn1104
10-14-2005, 03:10 PM
I felt that Pocahontas was waaaaaay to involved in the WDW version. I mean, there was A LONG Pocahontas bit, which was kind of annoying, considering it replaced the best part of the whole show- Kaa & Monkeys, and Peter Pan. Plus, our verson used a lot more "puppets" (or whatever they're called) and they used the water screen too much. I was a little let down. DL rocks!
xfkirsten
10-14-2005, 04:09 PM
Disneyland's. Hands down. I've seen both versions in person many, many times.
Here's what I don't like about WDW's version:
1) The stadium seating. As others have mentioned, it doesn't feel nearly as intimate. While it's nice not to have to battle for a seat, it feels more like a sporting event and less like a magial experience.
2) Too many mist screens! Now, I realize that mist screens are an essential segment of the show that allows the performers to change and get into place for the next scene. However, the way WDW's show is set up, there's too many of them. I think that the cast and show planning should have been done more carefully to eliminate the need for so many mist screen segments. Honestly, how long can we really stand to watch every villain in Disney history laugh maniacally?
3) The Pocahontas battle. I will admit, I like the idea that they're bringing in a new storyline to the show, a new element. And in that respect, I think Pocahontas is a very appropriate choice. What I take issue with here is the level of spectacle. In Disneyland, we see a battle staged on a pirate ship, passing right in front of us as the scene progresses. In WDW, we see a generic stunt battle on a stage that's too far away.
4) The Jafar snake scene. Contrary to what some of you said, I can see this fitting into the story. For the most part, the progression of the Fantasmic story is fairly loose. I see the confrontation between Mickey and Jafar fitting in well in that escalation from the Snow Queen's appearance to that final climax with Maleficent. However, I think it's just far too long. For a tiresome couple of minutes, all we see is the snake walking back and forth, and Mickey running around like a chicken with his head cut off. IMHO, this segment should stay, but with about half the length.
5) The final battle. "Whaaaaa?" you say? No, I don't feel like this scene should be cut out. However, I feel like it also got dragged out too long. While Mickey parades around on stage, the dragon just watches passively. Riiiiiight. Now, on the otherhand, I feel like DL's confrontation is a bit short. Mickey appears, nails the dragon, end of story - somewhat anti-climactic (although I understand that from a technical standpoint any kind of a real battle between the two would have been difficult, that would have been preferrable). This is where I think the show could use a happy medium between the two. Some sort of a limited battle would be neat.
6) Steamboat Willie. Cute idea, and I love that they tried to get that theming to the old cartoon. In practice... well, it's pretty uninspiring. Part of it could be tied to the "stadium" aspect. In a huge stadium, a small boat is dwarfed. When you look at the grandeur of the Mark Twain's appearance in Disneyland's version, then look at Steamboat Willie in WDW's version, it's like looking at Mt. Everest next to Mt. Shasta. No contest.
Now, that's not to say that WDW's version is completely wrong. What I do like:
1) The mountain. It's big, it's impressive, and it really gives Sorcerer Mickey that "high and mighty" feel.
2) The video of the princesses before the floats appear. It's a nice segue from the battle to the princess floats, without having to add any mist screen time.
3) The Lion King scene. This one comes with a god and bad side. I love the Lion King sequence idea. I think it's cute, and I'm glad they tried to bring it in. My only complaint here is that the scene looks like they just chucked a bunch of neon animals on the island. Clean that look up, and they've got a great scene in my book.
...okay. I've rambled enough, and I shall step off my soapbox for now. :icon_lol:
iluvdisney01
10-14-2005, 07:59 PM
I agree with what everyone else has said so far. Disneyland's is way better!!! Sure, I think it's cool that WDW has a special stadium built for their version. Also, the mountain was a great idea. But it doesn't give the audience the same experience as Disneyland.
One important thing that I think is lacking from WDW is the magic...
- When you walk to the bleachers, you see banners of the characters who
are in the show. It ruins the surprise, especially for first-timers since you
already know which characters to expect.
- WDW's audience is there to watch Mickey's imagination. DL's audience
is there to experience it.
- In WDW, you see the mountain and you know something "big" is going
to happen. In DL, you have the cabin and who would expect a dragon to
come out of it?
- And of course, seeing the area around the Rivers get transformed for
the show cannot be matched by the stadium.
emma15677
02-03-2006, 12:54 AM
Is the video of Fantasmic! (complete) from RU42 from Disneyland? I think it is...because it looks a lot like what I remember.
Everyone seems to bag out WDW in general...I've only been to two of the parks and they're still quite good.
I love disneyland the most..but all the job oppurtunities are mostly available at WDW!
Sesshomaru-sama
02-03-2006, 08:26 PM
I never seen Walt Disney World's Fantasmic! before. So far as I heard, Disneyland's Fantasmic! is better. If there's a way for me to see the show, could someone send me a video or send me a link of the website that has the video? Even if it's clips, send it to me.
Robert Fuller
02-03-2006, 08:59 PM
I think the first five minutes of the WDW version are vastly superior to DL's. The beginning is much more exciting, and they got rid of the stupid Pinocchio thing and replaced it with the much more artistic Lion King scene.
And plus I prefer the stadium. I don't think it's less intimate. I guess it depends on where you view the respective Fantasmics from, but since I usually watch the DL show while standing in the back behind everyone, and I saw WDW's from an excellent seat near the front, the WDW version actually seemed a lot more intimate (not to mention more comfortable). And it makes it seem like more of an event. It's at the end of the day, practically everyone in the park is there in one big stadium, and you have to walk like a mile to get to it... it just seems like a big concert to end your day with, instead of something they just threw together in the Rivers of America.
However, since most of the rest of the WDW show sucks (enough with the water screens!), I have to say DL's is better. But I'm also getting sick of the DL version, and I don't think it's that good anymore. It's a bit like Star Tours... an attraction that was amazing when it first opened, but now seems tired and dated and in desperate need of improvement.
k_peek_2000
02-04-2006, 11:15 PM
Does anybody have a video of WDW's fantasmic that they can post? I've never seen it and I really want to see how bad it is lol.
Disneyland_Wolf
02-04-2006, 11:28 PM
geoffreynease
(http://geoffreynease.com)
click videos and click WDW Fantasmic.
k_peek_2000
02-05-2006, 08:58 AM
oh man i cant stand wdw fan sites like that lol.
Edit: It's 447mbs..... Is there a version of it where i dont have to wait seven hours to watch it.
Edit again:
I think the first five minutes of the WDW version are vastly superior to DL's. The beginning is much more exciting, and they got rid of the stupid Pinocchio thing and replaced it with the much more artistic Lion King scene.
You did not just call our pinnochio part stupid. Boy if i were right there i would slap you.
EDIT: Robert Fuller? I think I know you. Do you go to foothill?
Edit: HA you live in tustin! Your Ricky Fullers brother.
Robert Fuller
02-05-2006, 01:06 PM
You did not just call our pinnochio part stupid. Boy if i were right there i would slap you.
But... it is stupid... isn't it? I mean, it's three cutouts that pop out of the ground and wave their limbs about while their lighted "strings" blink on and off, while everyone in the audience is smiling and nodding and thinking, "Is that all they're going to do?" The string thing doesn't even make any sense within the logic of the movie (how do the other two puppets move without their strings?). And plus it's always breaking down, leaving us with just a couple of fountains to watch while the music plays, making everyone who hasn't seen it wonder, "Is something supposed to happen?"
Robert Fuller? I think I know you. Do you go to foothill?
Edit: HA you live in tustin! Your Ricky Fullers brother.
Who?
stevo505
02-05-2006, 01:23 PM
The one thing that's stupid about WDW's is, when mickey is creating that "Wall of Water" around the island, and putting out the flames, the dragon is just sitting there doing nothing. The dragon is probably thinking, "What the heck is Mickey doing?"
And in Disneyland's that dragon segment is too short. Mickey gets mad, kills the dragon, end of story. It's just not long enough. I really think they could have added just a few more seconds to that part of the show.
disneylandkid
02-05-2006, 01:47 PM
You did not just call our pinnochio part stupid. Boy if i were right there i would slap you.
HAHAHA lol:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: i would do the same. how could someone bash DL's Fantasmic AND aladdin. i mean i know its his opinion and all but its pinnochio, how could you not love pinnochio:frown:
what is the world coming to these days:icon_roll
Evan-500
02-05-2006, 10:13 PM
I loved the pinnochio segment.. soo cool this huge thing suddenly appearing there, with huge strings, and yeah!! very neat!
PeoplemoverMatt
02-06-2006, 02:14 AM
But... it is stupid... isn't it? I mean, it's three cutouts that pop out of the ground and wave their limbs about while their lighted "strings" blink on and off, while everyone in the audience is smiling and nodding and thinking, "Is that all they're going to do?"
What else would you expect them to do? Dress in drag & do the hula?
And plus it's always breaking down, leaving us with just a couple of fountains to watch while the music plays, making everyone who hasn't seen it wonder, "Is something supposed to happen?"
That happened for one brief period of time after one of the puppets broke & sank to the bottom of RoA. They had to go to fountains-only mode, which admittedly isn't ideally how it's supposed to go, but it was only until the puppets could be restored. It's worked fine aside from that brief episode.
And in Disneyland's that dragon segment is too short. Mickey gets mad, kills the dragon, end of story. It's just not long enough. I really think they could have added just a few more seconds to that part of the show.
Well Bucky the dragon comes out & makes the rivers burn, Mickey tells him that he might think he's so powerful, but it's HIS dream! And in Mickey's dream, Mickey rules. Enough said, Bucky dead. What else do you need? Some painfully dramatic buildup? Well WDW did that & look how it turned out.
-- PMM :cool:
tristanshoe
02-06-2006, 06:24 AM
i think that disneyland's is better by a long shot. first of all, i think the peter pan segment on the columbia blows pocahontas out of water, and our mark twain is awesome. even though wdw has a huge stadium, i think DL's is almost a closer feeling to all the action, rather than sitting way up high in a grandstand somewhere. finally, i think the fact that it takes place on that stage which you can actually walk on during the day makes it really cool. i also like DL's timing with everything. i think the length of each segment is perfect, and the show is virtually flawless.
MuRkErY
02-06-2006, 09:49 AM
[even though wdw has a huge stadium, i think DL's is almost a closer feeling to all the action, rather than sitting way up high in a grandstand somewhere.
I think both Fantasmics provide there own different types of magic.
DL's is great with it feeling more part of the audience, closer ect...
WDW's has it's own special ambience as well though being in that part of MGM at night is great. With the Hollywood Tower Hotel to your left all lit up at night, walking down Sunset Blvd with the old 20's, 30's golden days of Hollywood music playing, and then walking up into the Hollywood Hills Amphitheatre which fits in with the theme of the park perfectly, and also feels so secluded like it should be in the Hollywood Hills surrounding MGM ect... All so the atmosphere in the Hollywood Hills Amphitheatre before the show starts is great, with some of the most creative Meixcan Waves ever going round the Amphitheatre :biggrin:
DL's show is probably slightly beter due to the Peter Pan Segment, but I like the Pochohontas segment as well.
stitchhead28
02-06-2006, 02:13 PM
I'll just be blunt... Disneyland's Fantasmic is better than WDW's. Why? It's very simple! First of all, the WDW version uses way too much of the water projection effects. Instead of having King Louie and the Monkeys with Kaa the snake and Pinnochio, there are endless water projections. WDW though, has monkeys and other animals on the island and barges from Lion King, but it's not exciting! The music build up and loud jungle drums leading up to the elephants on parade are exciting! At WDW you just have some random animals going by to music. WDW also has a snake (Jafar). I have to admit that this is cool, but it's stupid! All Mickey does to get rid of it is "wish" it away. I would rather see a live action "animated" looking snake instead of one that has a pathetic death. Second, WE HAVE PETER PAN AND THE PIRATES!!! AT WDW they have a Pocohantas "dream sequence" which is nothing in comparision to the pirates! Third and finally is the finale with Steamboat Willie. Here, we have the Mark Twain riverboat, and at WDW they have a weird flat bottom thing that doesn't look anything remotely like a steamboat. So there are the hard facts. It may just be my opinion that DL's is better than WDW's, but right here I gave some really good points as to why that is my opinion. And remember, an opinion is an opion. It can't be right or wrong because that's what it is, an opinion! Thank you.
Robert Fuller
02-06-2006, 02:44 PM
What else would you expect them to do? Dress in drag & do the hula?
That would be cool! :p
stevo505
02-06-2006, 03:34 PM
Well Bucky the dragon comes out & makes the rivers burn, Mickey tells him that he might think he's so powerful, but it's HIS dream! And in Mickey's dream, Mickey rules. Enough said, Bucky dead. What else do you need? Some painfully dramatic buildup? Well WDW did that & look how it turned out.
-- PMM :cool:
Well, I don't know. I'm not saying they have to make it as long as WDW's, but it all tjust happens so fast. I really don't think they should have Mickey do anything else, just saying it's kinda shrot. that's all.
Fantasmic17
02-06-2006, 04:56 PM
Don't even get me strted on this topic! Disneyland's Fantasmic! is so much more magical and personalized! The fact that there is no staadium and that it takes place on the Cider Mill House instead of on a mountain makes it so much more cool. During the day that whole area is quiet and peaceful. But when the show starts, lights come out of the ground, the river starts to play and the Columbia and Mark Twain come to life. The fact that what the audience has familiarized themselves with in the day comes alive at night makes it so much more breathtaking and spectacular. At WDW all the equipment is in plain veiw and the audience has never even seen where they are about to go for the show. Also, Steamboat Willie takes away the whole magic if the show right when itshould be at it's high. The Mark Twain is much more suitable. But even if they did use the Mark Twain it would be totally out of place with the rest of the setting. WDW's setting is too animated and out of the blue. Well now that you've got me all worked up I guess I my as well start on about how I hate WDW! So.............
Robert Fuller
02-06-2006, 05:47 PM
Well, I don't know. I'm not saying they have to make it as long as WDW's, but it all tjust happens so fast. I really don't think they should have Mickey do anything else, just saying it's kinda shrot. that's all.
That's one thing I like about it. It's like in Raiders of the Lost Ark, when the guy with the big sword shows up and he tries to be all threatening and scary, and Indy just calmly pulls out his gun and shoots him. It's Mickey's way of saying, "Are you kidding me? You're a joke! This is my dream, and I da Man (or Mouse, I suppose)!" :tongue:
stevo505
02-06-2006, 05:52 PM
That's one thing I like about it. It's like in Raiders of the Lost Ark, when the guy with the big sword shows up and he tries to be all threatening and scary, and Indy just calmly pulls out his gun and shoots him. It's Mickey's way of saying, "Are you kidding me? You're a joke! This is my dream, and I da Man (or Mouse, I suppose)!" :tongue:
Haha. That's funny. You da mouse! Lol:biggrin:
Disneyland_Wolf
02-06-2006, 07:15 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/Fantasmic-post-front.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Fantasmic001.jpg
Which poster is better looking? Disneyland's Fantasmic is darker than WDW's.
MuRkErY
02-06-2006, 07:26 PM
Don't even get me strted on this topic! Disneyland's Fantasmic! is so much more magical and personalized! The fact that there is no staadium and that it takes place on the Cider Mill House instead of on a mountain makes it so much more cool. During the day that whole area is quiet and peaceful. But when the show starts, lights come out of the ground, the river starts to play and the Columbia and Mark Twain come to life. The fact that what the audience has familiarized themselves with in the day comes alive at night makes it so much more breathtaking and spectacular. At WDW all the equipment is in plain veiw and the audience has never even seen where they are about to go for the show. Also, Steamboat Willie takes away the whole magic if the show right when itshould be at it's high. The Mark Twain is much more suitable. But even if they did use the Mark Twain it would be totally out of place with the rest of the setting. WDW's setting is too animated and out of the blue. Well now that you've got me all worked up I guess I my as well start on about how I hate WDW! So.............
That's what fits in with the theme of MGM though, it's a different type of magic like I've all ready said.
That part of MGM is all themed to Hollywood in its Golden days, 30's, 40's ect... So the Hollywood Hills Amphitheatre makes perfect sense for MGM.
ScaryTrees
02-06-2006, 07:52 PM
Which poster is better looking? Disneyland's Fantasmic is darker than WDW's.
You can't judge the show based on the poster no matter how much better Disneyland's poster looks. I used to like WDW's Fantasmic more but now I like them about the same. Theres things I like about both of them and things I hate about both of them.
k_peek_2000
02-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Alright well I am watching a video of WDW's Fantasmic. And im up to the part where the indians row into the area and wow, this is just depressing. Ill comment more and I progress.
I've had enought of this. I'm just letting it play while I type this. It's no where near as good as disneylands. Not in a million years. Its like Disneyworlds Magic Kingdom compaired to DL. It wont ever compair. DL will always be the origional and will always be better.
And the bubbles were stupid. Ill post a full reveiw when im done watching it.
Okay. The pyrotechnics were off que. The acting was poor. The lights were off que. The snake was falling apart plus you could see the people feet. The quote unqoute big battle at the end was just mickey dancing around 100 feet infront of the dragon. The end was off que where mickey defeates the dragon. The steamboat is small plus could use a paintjob. The lionking was alright. But it lacked movement. The bubbles with all the charectors in it which lasted for about 3 mins. The finale was extruciatingly undewhelming. For example. Disneylands is there are fireworks everywhere and its just breathe taking. WDW's there are only two morters shooting them at the top of the rock.....Mickey ran out of a trap door under full light. The princess scene with the rafts didn't have great princess acting. It was more like girls running around in dresses. The whole show lacked coreography (SP). The poccahantis scene was just dull. But disney says, "hey lets put some fireworks in there and the people will love it". The intro was extended and pretty much killed the show when she said and experiance Fantasmic. The smoke screens were just too long. The butterfly part at disneyland was replaced by a bunch of blinking lights. This show was worse than my expectations. I am truley upset. The show was horribly made. There was just so much wrong with the performance I watched. I think disney says. If we spend more money on lights and pyrotechnics and fountains. Then we can spend less on the actual show. And for some reason the people love it. Thats disneyworld for you. Hey I found a magic lamp, Maybe I can make MGM's Fantasmic Dissapear.
dreamscometrue555
02-09-2006, 05:46 PM
no comparison!!!!!
its like ours is las vegas, and theres is reno!
stevo505
02-09-2006, 08:34 PM
Yeah. Did you watch it on Moustimes.com? Because tht's where I watched it, and the fireworks came in like a split second late. It was horrible.Okay. The pyrotechnics were off que. The acting was poor. The lights were off que. The snake was falling apart plus you could see the people feet. The quote unqoute big battle at the end was just mickey dancing around 100 feet infront of the dragon. The end was off que where mickey defeates the dragon. QUOTE]
k_peek_2000
02-09-2006, 09:30 PM
Yep Thats what I watched. Then I ran upstares and played RU42's Fantasmic. No comparison at all. Plus I forgot some critisms. but its too late now. Malifencent (I have no clue lol) exited the stage and she turned around and just i beleive she fell through a whole lol. Plus they were doing the wave in the crowd, that was pretty funny.
ClassicDisney
02-11-2006, 12:41 AM
That's one thing I like about it. It's like in Raiders of the Lost Ark, when the guy with the big sword shows up and he tries to be all threatening and scary, and Indy just calmly pulls out his gun and shoots him. It's Mickey's way of saying, "Are you kidding me? You're a joke! This is my dream, and I da Man (or Mouse, I suppose)!" :tongue:
Yeah but that wasn't even scripted. Harrison Ford was screwing around one time, and originally there was supposed to be a huge dule...
Evan-500
02-11-2006, 11:23 AM
^ yes, and it's way better now...
stevo505
02-11-2006, 12:08 PM
I know. WDW's just seems so off que.
k_peek_2000
02-11-2006, 03:24 PM
it trys to be somthing its not.
-Epic
and
-Good.
For some reason Disneylands seems alot more epic than WDW's. With the mark twain and the huge finale. As aposed to WDW's wind-up toy steam boat and puny finale.
disneyfreak59
04-21-2006, 02:51 PM
i like the pink elephants at DL that WDW doenst have.
I didnt like the pocahantas (sp?) part.
I miss the peter pan part.
theyre both good none the less.
Ariellen
04-21-2006, 05:50 PM
I love both of them a lot, but I voted for Disneyland! The mountain at MGM is really cool and SOME of the scenes with newer characters (like the snake fight with Jafar and the montage on the water screens during the Princess medley). BUT...I had seen Disneyland's Fantasmic! about 4 or 5 times before WDW even had one, and we had Disneyland's soundtrack. WDW doesn't have a Pinocchio marionette, pink elephants, or my favorite non-Mickey scene in any Fantasmic!, the Peter Pan battle on the Columbia! (OK, of course, MGM doesn't have a Columbia...still, the Peter Pan scene is much cooler than the Pocahontas one at MGM).
Both of them are exhilerating, but Disneyland's is definitely my favorite.
Does anyone else remember the giant Ursula from Disneyland's Fantasmic? When did they eliminate that?
Mickey55
05-13-2006, 04:51 PM
Does anyone else remember the giant Ursula from Disneyland's Fantasmic? When did they eliminate that?
I think they elimenated it around 2000-2001.It would be cool to see the float in person.
k_peek_2000
05-13-2006, 05:03 PM
I have a picture of it in some workshop on my other computer. Ill post it when I can.
alex5534
07-13-2006, 01:18 PM
I have seen both Fantasmics and I really prefer the original at Disneyland. I agree with most of the people about the fact that Rivers of America "comes to life" by nightime, and that the use of the Mark Twain and Columbia add a special personality to both ships.
In WDW's version, although well executed, the Pocahontas scene (instead of Peter Pan's) just kills the momentum of the show (after the whirlwind scene), as well as the little paddleboat in the end (well, after seeing the Mark Twain, WDW's seems "small").
Nevertheless, I think that there are good segments and it's great that MGM's Fantasmic is not an exact clone of DL's, but the fact that you have to go to a specific location to wait for the show (with limited seating), makes me think that in MGM Studios you just go for the "big show to end the day", while in Disneyland you know that you are really experiencing the product of "Mickey's imagination", and you can do it from wherever you want to: you can get your place in advance all around the shore of the Rivers of America, or maybe arrive a little late and still find a good spot to watch most of the show, and even see it while walking between Splash and Big Thunder Mountain.
I mean that it's just magical to see that a couple of hours earlier, those walkways were clear and the structures with the spotlights weren't there!
Finally, DL's Fantasmic! could use a little update (as long as nothing is taken out from the main story), yet it is impressive that 13 years later, it is still the must-see attraction of Disneyland Park.
WDW Fantasmic boat is the Steam Boat Willy
Fantasmic!kid
07-14-2006, 02:02 PM
Walking down the exit of the WDW Fantasmic! Stadium I was shaking my head. I simply couldn't believe WDW did that bad a job of copying Disneyland's Fantasmic!I don't think they were trying to copy it. After all, it would get a little boring if every single park had exactly the same rides and shows.
Disneyland_Wolf
07-14-2006, 02:19 PM
Check out this video of Disneyland's Fantasmic! Enhanced. No flaws on the show, but the camera guy can't move the camera around. It is different type. Have you see the fountains so high up?
Disneyland Fantasmic! Enhanced. (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5240484411406384783&q=Fantasmic%21)
mrsix24
07-15-2006, 07:06 PM
I havent seen DL 's version of Fantasmic! so I voted WDW. But WDW's wansnt that great compared to what I hear about DL's. But I found the dragon in the WDW version very cheesy. It looked so bad they had to put extra smoke so no one could see it. All I could see was the eyes. And the whole water curtain was cool at first but it started taking up the whole show! I could just watch Disney cartoons on television! And the whole Pocohantas scene was very random.
martinroyalsdisneyfan
04-10-2007, 02:56 AM
I prefer Disneyland's Fantasmic because of the Mark Twain. In WDW's steamboat version, the characters look too cluttered.
Also, I like Mickey on top of the mill instead of the mountain. Anyway,
I love FANTASMIC!!!:biggrin:
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