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Loneknight
06-20-2005, 09:44 AM
Anyone see this yet? Well, the thread is here, and I'm writing about it...

All I can say is...Wow! Folks, I've read some pretty awesome reviews about this movie before I saw it, and they all agree: this new Batman movie will change things.

Keep in mind if you have not seen this new incarnation: it is NOT a Tim Burton or Joel Shumacher film (the guy who butchered the last two Batman films). Batman Begins has a new director, new cast, new direction....and an awesome new look. Now, I only say this because after Batman & Robin, which Schumacher had every dang thing backlit with a neon tube and monolithic statues jutting out all over the place, Begins was great on the eyes.

Christopher Nolan, the new director, wanted Begins to maintain the comic book quality, yet also retain the realism. In this, Gotham City is no longer the gothic, horrific-looking town that is popularized with statues, goons in finger paint carrying around knock-off lightsabers, etc. Rather, Gotham City looks like a real city, with real people and real criminals. The streets, cityscape, and individuals who make up Gotham can easily be mistaken for a scene out of New York, which makes this film work. We are not taken to a fictional city, but rather a real city with a name synonymous with justice.

Then enter the Caped Crusader. As the film begins, we see the beginning of a man who has lost himself in his anguish, his fear, and his frustration. After witnessing the death of his parents, Bruce struggles to see the lines of right and wrong and the memory of his father and mother gunned down haunt him through his years at Princeton, and into manhood. It is when he traverses the world to understand his enemy, does he end up finding his true path. When Ducard (Liam Neeson) tells Bruce that he can right the wrongs, and turn his fear into the fear of others, Bruce decides to take Ducard on his word and begin his training.

What follows is the transformation of one of comic books most legendary icons. In this, we see Thomas Wayne as a compassionate, loving father, whom Bruce idolizes along with the rest of the employees at Wayne Enterprises. We see the findings of the Batcave, Bruce's future sanctuary and hideout, the horror of his parents murdered and the internal struggle that Bruce fights. We then see Bruce channeling his anger, coming face-to-face to with his fear, and ultimately embracing his destiny.

When returning to Gotham, the ever loyal Alfred (Michael Caine) was comforting to see. Caine does a great job of portraying the butler that Bruce has grown to love as a father, and there are some great one-liners by Alfred which offer a relieved chuckle.

Morgan Freeman playes Lucius Fox, who first sets up Bruce with all of his "toys". Morgan also does a wonderful job of a supporting character, as he helps to aid our hero in his pursuit of justice. This also helps to explain how a lot of Batman's gadgets works, and I must say it was pretty fascinating.

The "toys" that we see in the film are a treat, and the new Batmobile, or "Tumbler", is sure to blow away expectations. When I first saw this on the internet, it looked like a clunky re-designed S.U.V. On film, the Tumbler does it's own butt-kicking and takes names at the same time. Again, this looked like something out of a realistic period, not a retro-tailfinned tuna boat or neon sports car with a 4 foot flame shooting out the back of it.

For those that are familiar with the animated series, one would recall the Scarecrow, a psychiatrist gone awry and who also uses a very powerful hallucinogen to conjure up anyone's worst fears. In the film, Cillian Murphy does a great job at bringing this villian to life, and the CGI effects associated with his character up the horror level of this wonderfully done villian, right up there with the Joker from the first Batman film. The other villians, to me, just didn't grab the screen as well as Scarecrow, but all in all it does add to the film and makes for a great story.

A few parts which made me almost cheer in the theater is, on his first night out, Batman takes to the local crime lord during a shipment of drugs. At the end of this scene, the Dark Knight pulls the crime lord out of his car, and when the evil boss yells "Who are you?!", we hear those unmistakable words... "I'm Batman!"

Like I said in the beginning, it's not Tim Burton or Joel Schumacher. We won't see those colorful goons or ridiculous villians (with the exception to the Joker) with cheesy one-liners and bad makeup. Nor will you see some ridiculous stunt, or the Caped Crusader surfing down the neck of a Dinosuar (Schumacher REALLY needs to be beaten for that). You'll see pain, redemption, terror, justice, love, hate, happiness, dedication, sadness....but more than that, you'll see what should have been seen in the first film...

...a Legend.

Now go see this movie! :D

DarMar106
06-20-2005, 10:55 AM
the movie was awesome but i dont think it did Scarecrow justice, but they've kept him alive so he could return

GreenLantern13
06-20-2005, 11:09 AM
I agree. I loved the man playing the scientist but when it came to the Scarecrow he was so unused, and while his "defeat" was comic, that's all there really was to him once the horror began.

I had problems with the film. It was okay and all but some things bugged me. Batman's voice for one. I know that any voice nowadays is going to sound like an injustice to me when it isn't Kevin Conroy, but forcing himself to talk raspy-like all the time was annoying.

Second, okay even if I buy the League of Shadows stuff.. Did they HAVE to pop in a cheesy matrix wannabe by adding the whole "You've destroyed Gotham before? Oh yes, many times. Each time we rebuild it we..."

Gordon was good overall. A couple of times he reminded me of Rick Moranis' character in ghostbusters fumbling about a couple times.

Loneknight
06-20-2005, 11:56 AM
Ok, I admit that my review did seem a bit overzealous. In comparison to the previous three Batman movies though, ya gotta give it some credit there.

I honestly think that this new movie will breathe some much needed life back into the franchise.

GreenLantern13
06-20-2005, 12:06 PM
Not when you have "The Batman" airing on cartoon network. 10 seconds into that cartoon and I was ready to hurl. ;) Seriously. Not 10 seconds had gone by and the worst voiced penguin ever, with a few birds flying him purses, manages to shout "Fly my pretties!... Show me the money!!!!"

I wish they were still making new Batman Beyond :/ Ah well at least he's still on JLU.

Loneknight
06-20-2005, 01:00 PM
Never saw the new series.....haven't heard too much about it, so that could be a bad thing.... :P

Batman Beyond was pretty cool. Loved the theme song!

My wife was telling me that the first cartoon series stayed pretty true to the comics. While I can't verify that, I never got into the cartoon series of any superhero cartoon.....except Justice League and, when I got a chance to see it, Batman Beyond.

icarian
06-20-2005, 01:23 PM
This movie looks awesome.... My favorite batman films would have to be the first and second... in that order.... and then the last two i hated with a great flaming passion. AAARRRG! i'm a huge tim burton fan though, and when someone tries to imitate the style he set in the first two, and goes as far off base as Shumacher did.... i get angered. The chemestry between tommy lee jones and jim carrey is the only thing that saved batman forever from total failure.... not that it was a good film by any means.

anywho.... I think i may see this movie tonight, but not sure...

SplashMountain
06-20-2005, 02:25 PM
I think it is one of THE BEST superheroe movies out there!

Carley Mouse
06-20-2005, 10:56 PM
The movie sounds great, I can't wait to get out and see it. Im a huge batman fan. And yes the new cartoon..well..sucks. I was absolutly horrified when I saw what they did with the joker. my poor mistah j! he was a suave gangster and now he's disgusting..I'll really get angry if they even touch Harley Quinn (my alter-ego). I really hope Harley ends ip in the movies at some point.

Skippy
06-22-2005, 03:25 AM
This movie is amazing ;) The only problems I had with the movie were: 1) How the newly designed Gotham City now has NO gothic architecture, as the last 4 movies and Six Flags parks have, and it came across like more of a "New York" type of city (Spider-Man anyone)! We can only hope that Metropolis in the upcoming Superman movie maintains it's fururistic look :( and 2) How the newly designed Batmobile just seems way too over-the-top! Now onto what I liked about it! The new movie portrays Gotham, and eveyone in it, in a darker tone so it seems as though Batman is actually needed unlike in previous movies. In this one he's dealing with psychotic freaks and murderers instead of cowardous bank robbers! This was definatly a step in the right direction for the Batman series as basically every "bad guy" in Gotham City, doesn't have super powers, but is only a psychotic freak in a costume. I for one am still a fan of Time Burton's Batman (I can wait to see the Corps's Bride) And on a final note, I have see "The Batman" on WB and I have mixed feelings about the show. On one side the show is a bit darker and a wee bit more complex than previous Batman cartoons and the animation is pretty good to, BUT on the other had I hate the way the new characters look and in some cases, how they act :mad:

zosomouse
07-27-2005, 01:32 AM
Ok, I admit that my review did seem a bit overzealous. In comparison to the previous three Batman movies though, ya gotta give it some credit there.

I honestly think that this new movie will breathe some much needed life back into the franchise.

;) Not so much overzealous as enthusiastic, and there's nothing wrong with that. It was nice to see the Caped Crusader looking more like the Dark Knight and to actually see him flying/gliding with his cape as opposed to just launching with the wrist rope or parachuting with the cape to the ground. I still think Michael Keaton played a surprisingly good Batman in the first film and who could top Jack Nicholson as the Joker? That was an awesome film, especially for coming out in 1987! In the current film I thought Scarecrow was especially effective, especially after being on hallucinogens...alluding to the gas in the story and effects used of course. The whole idea that a sissy looking scientist (who didn't seem right to me from the beginninig) could use a simple burlap sack and some noxious fumes to invoke terror into his victims is a perfect take on Scarecrow.