The Official Peoplemover Rumor Thread! (merged) [Archive]

DisneyResurrection

06-21-2005, 08:37 PM

I have not heard anything but if they bring back the "in the sky" people mover I hope they make it all enclosed. I think one reason they took out the old mover was that people were being spit on from above and spilling drinks on people too. I think they should build it with closed windows and air vents or forget it. I remember going to Disneyland when it was still in operation and looking up "just in case" when walking under it and I was only 10 years old at the time. Disneyland should offer clear bottom helicopter rides with ariel views of the parks instead. :smile:

icarian

06-21-2005, 09:47 PM

i think you mean the skyway..... peoplemovers were the omnimover bubbles that were replaced by rocket rods. Skyway was closed down due to safety issues from what Ive been able to gather.

Mickey Man

06-21-2005, 11:34 PM

I have not heard anything but I just dont see why they wouldnt bring it back. obviously everyone wants it and nuthing is taking that spot unless they have different plans for it not yet released

Hyperion 77

06-24-2005, 03:23 PM

There will be something on that track. I could see that when walking through a certain ride *whistles* that the track there was newly refurb'ed. As to what will be there, no one knows... ;o)

Stephen

06-26-2005, 12:28 PM

So... does anyone know anything else about the peoplemover other than it was removed in 1995 and replaced by rocket rods, and may come back as TTA? And bty, the skyway closed because it cost too much for safety upgrades, because Great America has them, and so does the Boardwalk.

PeoplemoverMatt

06-27-2005, 01:46 AM

We know many things about the Peoplemover, what would you like to find out? :smile:

-- Peoplemover "Sea World has them too" Matt

Stephen

06-27-2005, 09:18 AM

If it's going to come back? And if it's going to look the same as before, because I have a few ideas for cars.

sataneatscheezwhiz

06-27-2005, 02:14 PM

^^What? I don't remember Sea World having PeopleMovers...??

Shay

06-27-2005, 02:15 PM

has anybody seen the poeplemover car in the backlot its been there since the ride closed down. "just a thought"

PeoplemoverMatt

06-27-2005, 02:39 PM

^^What? I don't remember Sea World having PeopleMovers...??

Sorry I wasn't referring to Peoplemovers but the Skyway system. Sea World has a pay-per-ride Skyway taking riders over scenic Mission Bay.

As for if it's going to comeback, Disneyland insider Al Lutz has noted in his columns that projects are in the works and were going to be submitted for approval. When and if they are, believe me the word will break out right here on VF, so stay tuned! :smile: However there has been nothing to say that it will come back as TTA.

-- Peoplemover "Disneyland has just never been the same without it" Matt

Executioner

06-28-2005, 11:20 AM

Ain't that the truth. Thanks PeoplemoverMatt for the info and updates on this. To see it operating again would be a great site.

Stephen

06-29-2005, 09:48 PM

I've only seen the skyway buckets in the premier shop in like 2003 or 2004.
I have a few ideas for a new superspeed tunnel:

1. Use neon lights that blink in a pattern to make it look like you're going really fast next to a bunch of lights.

2. give sudden jolts on the track from time to time to give the feel as if you're going fast on a track.

3. blow air! it will give more effect.

4. play sound effects that sound like the BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) trains when they're at full speed.

5. tilt the track downward to make it seem as if you were going slightly forward as if accelerating in the car.

another idea for just the general, is just like a cabel car system where a little cable pulls the car along the track. it'll save alot of money on motors.

Piglet

07-07-2005, 12:21 PM

I'm going to direct this one at Matt: If the People Mover does come back, where will the queing are be? Didn't they use the old one to make the Buzz Lightyear ride??

Stephen

07-07-2005, 12:31 PM

No. They turned it into a radio-disney booth (now extinct) and you'd go up and wait on little moving paths and it would guide you to the car to get in, and since (from what I know) the PeopleMover never stopped, you'd step into the car while on the moving platform.

GreenLantern13

07-07-2005, 12:37 PM

They used the rocket rods queue. The peoplemover queue is currently all filled up with concrete or something. It was located right under the peoplemover track and speed ramps took you straight into the loading area.

You can see how this went in the VF peoplemover video, unfortunately I can't seem to find that video. I guess it hasn't been added yet.

Executioner

07-07-2005, 03:02 PM

It's now a planter I believe, and almandot is correct about the location of the old entrance. There was a set of 3 speed ramps zigzagging up to the PM station.The old Radio Disney booths is where the elevators for the Rocket Jets (not Rocket Rods) was located.

sassytink

07-08-2005, 02:05 PM

I really think they need to bring the People Mover's back. It was a great middle of the afternoon ride. It was slow, cool, there was never a very long wait, and it was a great way to take some time off, without leaving the park. Plus it gave some great views of the park and it was always fun to hear them passing over you.

PeoplemoverMatt

07-08-2005, 05:40 PM

I'm going to direct this one at Matt: If the People Mover does come back, where will the queing are be? Didn't they use the old one to make the Buzz Lightyear ride??

The queue area could be anywhere. You're right with the original entrance now covered over w/ dry wall, had a planter put in front of it and a churro stand placed in front of the planter, you can't really go back through there. And BLAB did go into the old Rocket Rods queue/CircleVision theatre building, so you can't really go through there. However, entry up there is possible from somewhere because I have seen pictures from as recently as yesterday that had people surveying the old loading platform. They gotta get up there somehow! :old_wink: Personally I think they'd just punch right back through the planter & dry wall and re-install the speedramps, or make like Space Mtn & install stairs. Anything that can be done to make it the way it was would be the best choice in my book.

http://home.pacbell.net/jonvn/to2.jpg
That's what the entrance used to look like around 1980 or so. You can also see the Rocket Jets & the Peoplemover ride itself. Also notice how there's actually people in Tomorrowland, and they're smiling!! :tongue:

-- Peoplemover "Props to VF for making it so easy to put pics into posts like this! :biggrin: " Matt

Legend_S

07-08-2005, 09:53 PM

::Looks at pic:: Its beautiful :D , i know they can make it the way it use to be in no more then a year or maybe less, hmmm then track, year and a half lol. Would love to see it like that again, only thing i go on in Tomorrowland anymore is Star Tours and Space Mountain, give ppl more reasons to go to Tomorrowland again! T_T If they did bring the pplmover back, i would love it to be called something simple like PeapleMover 2.

GreenLantern13

07-08-2005, 10:13 PM

Hmm.. Executioner mentioned zig zagging speed ramps...but I only remember them going straight up the the incline to the queue area. Then I looked at some old pictures and saw in fact the inclined ramps blocked off by a small wall and there was a small zig zag for the line.

ob12

07-10-2005, 08:14 PM

I JUST HOPE THAT THEY BRING BACK TH POEPLE MOVERS,IT WAS ONE OF MY FAV. RIDES AS A KID.

:icon_twis

Disneyland_Wolf

07-10-2005, 10:47 PM

Me too, I hope they bring it back with new enhancements and new cars and track improvements. Rocket Rods is good too, but eh....

Legend_S

07-11-2005, 12:46 PM

Around in 1996 or so, I remember as a kid, I was going to watch Captain EO with my family for the last time (For soon it'll be closed by the time I got my first year passport and returned to DL in 1998) then I was asking the CEO cast member, "What happen to the pplmover," As I looked up at the abandond track, he told me there was going to be a new ride (Rocket Rods:mad: He didnt give me a name, just stating it was going to be a new ride), just seeing it like that for the last time, it was hard for me, knowing i'll never ride it again. Lets hope the WDI know what the public wants.:biggrin:

Stephen

07-15-2005, 12:46 PM

So are we sure here that they are coming back?

DaddyB

07-16-2005, 12:45 AM

No announcements were made today regarding the peoplemover. There had been activity up there that last couple weeks, but today for the grand opening of Space Mountain they had camera crews up there as well as doind video interviews with Buzz Aldrin, and others... so the activity up there in the last couple of weeks may well have been just measuring for the interview stage for today.

GreenLantern13

07-16-2005, 02:32 AM

For May 5th, the hearsay via Al Lutz was that they were gonna do the whole Finding Nemo murals and then delayed it at the last second so they could make the announcement with some other stuff... Now that it's been announced during Turtle Talk's premiere, and space mountain has been dedicated, it would seem logical that if anything were going to be announced for anything involving the track it'd probably happen on the 17th. So I'll have my fingers crossed. If not, it certainly doesn't ruin the possibility. But we're basically just waiting for a few magic words to make it seem a reality instead of this big rumor ;).

brunetteTinkerbell1955

07-16-2005, 11:04 AM

if they do come back i wonder if its gonna be new colors

Stephen

07-18-2005, 12:25 PM

http://wiltors.net/pictures/peoplemover2.jpg

The peoplemover has stopped temporarily... please wait till we redesign the trains!.

I drew this on Flash, and I thought it would look cool for a new peoplemover design, but from the side, it looks like a weird open window-ed Monorail... but it's not... bty, the picture on the bottom left is of the track, and the little black thing is the Goodyear tire that propels the train.

(bty, Mods, this picture is on my own site)

Disneyland_Wolf

07-18-2005, 02:47 PM

The peoplemover cars speed is 3 mph.

Legend_S

07-18-2005, 04:00 PM

Well if they got it back up, they should make it go more faster like maybe 7 or 8 mph, plus in the carts, they should have little tv screens in there, telling them where they are in the building and having it telling them fun facts about the attractions there going through, and show them pics of making the rides or stuff like that.

Stephen

07-18-2005, 05:44 PM

Ok, ok, ok. You caught me exadurating... but what I really meant is "push" the cars.. and I thought it was 2 miles per hour! hmmm... :icon_excl

Hyperion 77

07-19-2005, 01:48 PM

I hope they do come back... I will upload my versions of the new cars soon, by the way the other version someone drew in FLASH looks just like the 1967 ones! :icon_shoc

Stephen

07-19-2005, 03:23 PM

Adobe Flash, right? It was me, and if you look at pictures of them, they really are a lot different. I based them on the old ones heavily.

Space Mountain Mike

07-23-2005, 07:35 PM

4. play sound effects that sound like the BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) trains when they're at full speed.

I think they should use Fresno Area Rapid Transit

Disneyland_Wolf

07-23-2005, 10:12 PM

I want the classic Peoplemover back, but with strong plastic windows with marker resistant.

Stephen

07-24-2005, 02:40 AM

I think they should use Fresno Area Rapid Transit

the FART train? LOL!

disneyfreak59

07-24-2005, 04:44 PM

noooo! anything but the Fresno transit!!!!! I use to live there so I have a good excuse to rip on it...lol...and as an added effect there should be heat! tons of heat in the cars! mwahahha! :D

Disneyland_Wolf

07-25-2005, 07:34 PM

A article from Wikipedia: After PeopleMover's il-fated successor Rocket Rods closed in 2000, the PeopleMover/Rocket Rods tracks remained untouch until 2005, when the tracks were painted blue and sliver for Tomorromland's new paint scheme. This raised much hope from Disneyland fans, to know that Disneyland was still maintaining the tracks. Although many trees have taken over in the Autopia area, some have been recently cut away from the tracks. Above the star tunnel scene in the Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters attraction, which opened in March 17, 2005, a "bridge" extends the tunnel with a wall on the bridge with two planets painted on it. On April 26, 2005, a Disneyland insider site reported that if the first few weeks of the Disneyland 50th Anniversary goes well, Disney will greenlight the plans for an updated PeopleMover (most likely Tomorromland Transit Authority) as well as a removal of Tomorromland's 1998 attraction Astro Orbiter, which allowed for the Rocket Jets to be rebuilt on the top of the PeopleMover station, where it originally stood.

PeoplemoverMatt

07-25-2005, 10:27 PM

^ I'd be interested to know just what "Disneyland insider site" that was. If it was MiceAge then it's just a rumor. No reason to make a big deal until we hear something further...

-- Peoplemover "If they call it TTA I'll start a friggin' petition! :icon_roll " Matt

Stephen

07-25-2005, 11:00 PM

Yep, It's MiceAge... but the page isn't working...

and, Matt. If you're going to have a petition, start making pickit signs. :old_wink:

kates4u

07-28-2005, 03:51 PM

When do you think they will officially announce the greenlight for this project? or is it all strictly rumors?

PeoplemoverMatt

08-01-2005, 02:30 AM

^ Right now it's all rumors, until we find out otherwise. When will that happen? Who knows.

-- Peoplemover "It could happen tomorrow, it's unlikely, but it could" Matt

Jack_Skellingtons_Lover

08-17-2005, 02:24 AM

you have to understand if they bring back the peoplemover, it has to have something to make people WANT to go on it, someting to interest them, it has to make it interesting, me and my dad were talking about it tonite, and he is rite u know he is, if its jsut going to take u around like it used to, then who the hell is gunna go on it?, they neeed to make it interesting

PeoplemoverMatt

08-17-2005, 03:06 PM

who the hell is gunna go on it?

Me. :biggrin:

It doesn't need to be a 7-inversion, 5-G, 400ft tall, 130MPH roller coaster to be interesting to ride. Having a ride that provides a 20min rest while offering you great views of the park, previews of great attractions, an amazing video tunnel (obviously this wouldn't return), and a way to let 5 year old Billy think he's riding a big kids ride...what about that wouldn't make you want to ride it? The Magic Mountain crowd's not going to ride it but then again, they probably thought Disneyland was too kiddie-ish anyways. :smile:

-- Peoplemover "I feel sorry for those people, I really do" Matt

Legend_S

08-17-2005, 03:44 PM

Me. :biggrin:

It doesn't need to be a 7-inversion, 5-G, 400ft tall, 130MPH roller coaster to be interesting to ride. Having a ride that provides a 20min rest while offering you great views of the park, previews of great attractions, an amazing video tunnel (obviously this wouldn't return), and a way to let 5 year old Billy think he's riding a big kids ride...what about that wouldn't make you want to ride it? The Magic Mountain crowd's not going to ride it but then again, they probably thought Disneyland was too kiddie-ish anyways. :smile:

-- Peoplemover "I feel sorry for those people, I really do" Matt

I'll ride it too, im right with you Matt, all it needs to make it a great ride again, is just make a Peoplemover again XD.

BLVDOFBROKENDREAMS

08-17-2005, 09:42 PM

Im not to sure about this rumor but i hope it is because it would be so awesome to ride it again i miss is since they cant have the rocket rods put back up their mine as well have the peoplemover back up their right i mean it was awesome and i love it so i hope the rumor is true

Stephen

08-17-2005, 10:19 PM

Climbs on track and shoots Astro Orbiter with Bazooka
"YAY!"

....
....

is escorted to jail by security

"poo"

ScaryTrees

08-18-2005, 02:15 AM

what if they arent gonna bring back the peoplemover but an updated new version of the rocket rods that dont break down and they have better seating to make less lines that would be kool but there is no more queue area any more so it is very unlikley to happen anytime soon but tha is probably why it is taking them so long cause they are trying to plan it flawlessly this time and have no break downs or maybe im just thinking too much tonight but that would be kool if it were to happen

sonikku

08-19-2005, 11:00 AM

Yep, It's MiceAge... but the page isn't working...

and, Matt. If you're going to have a petition, start making pickit signs. :old_wink:
Can i help
(Makes a pick it sign(with a finger going up a nose)
is this good

SubmarinemanKevin

08-20-2005, 01:02 PM

This isn't off the topic its just a different thing that some people were discussing....You know I thought about it some one posted it some where on here but I dont know where I said it was a dumb idea...Now I dont think that I thought and thought and actually haveing the people mover tracks enlarged or whatever then fill it with water would be pretty cool Peoplemover running on water that'd be cool ya cant really deny it before some people says it's stupid like I did take a day and think about then you wont think its dumb...

Mikokat

08-20-2005, 02:17 PM

^ -- Peoplemover "If they call it TTA I'll start a friggin' petition! :icon_roll " Matt

I'll sign your petition, and get all my friends to sign it!

I really hope they bring back the Peoplemover, or at least make a better ride on that track.

PeoplemoverMatt

08-21-2005, 11:25 PM

Unfortunately petitions mean absolutely zero to corporate executives, and they're the ones who approve projects for budget. I know, I know, it makes no sense at all, you're right! That's how the world works, unfortunately.

-- Peoplemover "It's really too bad we can't vote in/out Disney executives like we vote for government leaders" Matt

RocketRodsluver123

08-26-2005, 11:34 AM

theres a pretty good chance peoplemover 2.0 is gonna happen, but who said it was gonna be the old peoplemover. the same track rocket rods ran on is still there. peoplemover2.0 is just the name. the ride itself is gonna be an e- ticket ride, so basicly the rocket rods is going back, but also the rocket jets on top the track. also the new queue is most likely going to be where clubb buzz is at. i read this on mousepad a while back.

GreenLantern13

08-26-2005, 03:58 PM

hmm...an e ticket... given that california screamin is considered an E ticket by some...was rocket rods an e-ticket? I mean they certainly set up a lot of theme and information behind it during the queue which is more than ca screamin can say, albeit the queue wasn't a specially designed queue or anything they just filled some stuff into rooms...

(obviously most of the people who think ca screamin is an e ticket just do e tickets based on if it's one of the 'big thrill' rides of the parks, but his comment made me laugh because I'm wondering if peoplemover 2 could even possibly be an e ticket :P that'd be one heck of an overhaul).

PeoplemoverMatt

08-26-2005, 06:32 PM

CA Screamin' should be an E-ticket. It doesn't have the most themed queue in the world but so what? It's an elborate and fun coaster, plus its a park icon.

Honestly, I wouldn't want a new Peoplemover (I'm NOT calling it Peoplemover 2.0) to be an E-ticket. The Peoplemover at its best was never an E-ticket because it doesn't need to be one. Tomorrowland has enough top-tier attractions now so there isn't really a need for it to be one. I don't want Disney forcing this to be a major E-ticket. If they build back to as great as it was, then people will enjoy it and ride it because they want to, not because marketing told them to. Not every ride in the bloody park needs a guaranteed 75min wait time to be considered a useful project to take on. People in WDW seemed to be having plenty of fun on their Peoplemover, and that's today's audience right there.

-- Peoplemover "Just give me back my grand circle tour of Tomorrowland, that's all I ask" Matt

willywinthrop

08-30-2005, 07:00 PM

I think it would be a pretty good idea!

Stephen

08-30-2005, 11:29 PM

was rocket rods an e-ticket?

Rocket Rods was an R ticket for "Rotten" "Rancid" and "Re..." oops... I cant say that last one here...

koutesu

08-31-2005, 02:30 PM

I always used to enjoy the People Mover when I was a kid. I was lucky enough to ride it before it closed in 1995. I was disappointed to see it closed the next year, but I got excited by the progress of Rocket Rods. I was young and naive, so sue me.

I'm excited now to know the PM's return is a possibility. Sure it's a rumor, but Buzz Lightyear was a rumor, Nemo Subs was another rumor, and Monster's Inc was another. The only other big rumors that have us at the edge of our seats are Pirates changes/upgrades and the monorail trains. Seems more like an eventuallity to me.

If it were to come back, I think the cars' bodies should look like the old ones since they're classics and have clean lines to match the architecture. Did anyone like the original paint job? I liked the new paint job that matched it with the monorail. If you don't remember, the old paint was solid blue, red, and yellow to match the Mark III monorail and Autopia. The turquoise trains tie it in with the Skyway. The new paint job was grey with a stripe of red, blue, or purple to match the Mark V monorails. White was the 4th color stripe. PM and Monorail matched, but the Skyway and Autopia didn't. Maybe they could give them new metallic paint jobs?

If they don't plan to reopen the Starcade's 2nd floor, maybe they should enclose it and reroute the track a little to show off the new effects of Space and Rockit Mountain as a replacement to the Tron Superspeed Tunnel. Or theme it to Tron 2.0.

Please use LIMs so that the ride is a little smoother.

Disneyland_Wolf

08-31-2005, 02:42 PM

SilentMickey

08-31-2005, 03:24 PM

HiddenMickey

09-01-2005, 08:33 AM

Here's what Disney wrote me about the PeopleMover. Of course, it doesn't explain much:

Thank you for your interest in the PeopleMover. As Walt Disney himself once
said, "Disneyland will
never be completed as long as there is imagination left in the world." Walt
continually evaluated
existing attractions in order to make changes, modifications, and occasionally
close attractions to
make way for new and exciting adventures. In keeping with our philosophy of
making Disneyland
exciting and ever changing, we are continually evaluating our attractions,
closing some existing
attractions and developing new facilities to reflect progress and to maintain
the interest of our
visitors.

Executioner

09-01-2005, 10:20 AM

PeoplemoverMatt

09-01-2005, 11:44 AM

GreenLantern13

09-01-2005, 05:06 PM

and occasionally close attractions to make way for new and exciting adventures

Fair enough Disney, so where's the new and exciting adventures? ;)

tony

09-03-2005, 03:11 AM

they say that it would be hard to bring it back because some of the buildings it goes through are now used for backstage and that it would not be wise for people to see that.

tony

09-03-2005, 03:13 AM

I'm going to direct this one at Matt: If the People Mover does come back, where will the queing are be? Didn't they use the old one to make the Buzz Lightyear ride??

it would not make it that hard to make it like it was where you would just go up the steps

tony

09-03-2005, 03:20 AM

tony

09-03-2005, 03:24 AM

letterbomb

09-04-2005, 06:32 PM

they say that it would be hard to bring it back because some of the buildings it goes through are now used for backstage and that it would not be wise for people to see that.

if they said that, it very stupid. just close it off and have it how it was before.

SoCAFalcon

09-17-2005, 01:02 PM

Disney should create a new ride cue for the people mover above the starcade, it empty and dirty and you can see in it while on waiting for Space Mountain.

linklewtt

09-17-2005, 01:15 PM

don't you think that's a little FAR from the actual people mover station? ya, it is.

ScaryTrees

09-17-2005, 01:50 PM

Yea that is a little far they should just have the old entrance back where it was before

dlandman56

09-25-2005, 04:32 PM

Does anyone know if the Rocket Rod track/electrical system could be toned down for the slower People Mover? I would have to be better than the old tire-in-the-track system they had before. That was quite bumpy. And it would require minimal track rebuilding.

Disneyland_Wolf

09-25-2005, 07:30 PM

Could you stop spamming, please. Space Jump??! I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Stephen

09-25-2005, 07:40 PM

Well, the Rocket Rods (or Rancid Rods as I call 'em) were self powered. If the PPM were to return (which it will) it will use the same track, because it would have broken Roy Disney's back to do ANOTHER overlay of it, but have good year tires installed. Same track, different propulsion.

Xicalitlan21

09-29-2005, 01:32 PM

I never had the chance to try the Rocket Rods, but I heard that they had problems because the cars weren't compatible with the old PM track, but maybe lighter vehicles and LIMs could help to make it a smoother and reliable ride.

An ideal scenario for me would be to have there something fast, maybe similar to Test Track, with speed bursts on the straight sections of the track, ramdomized to make the experience different every ride, and when the vehicle entered the buildings create futuristic environments with special effects (although future is always changing).

Yet I believe that a great way to bring the PM back would be to create an updated version for the new century and inside the buildings recreate scenes or clips from classic Tomorrowland Attractions like Adventure thru Innerspace, Mission to Mars, Flight to the Moon and even America Sings / Carousel of Progress, I think it would be cool, specially for those of us who never experienced those classics from the 60's and 70's.

PeoplemoverMatt

10-06-2005, 11:32 PM

I think the Peoplemover could go 65MPH at one point & around a high-banked curve or two. It wouldn't degrade the ride at all as it could still easily function as a tour of Tomorrowland. But, of course, much space is needed for those 65MPH high-speed turns, so the imagination wheels keep turning...

-- Peoplemover "It's going to need something to get the project off the ground!" Matt

GreenLantern13

10-06-2005, 11:49 PM

What would be funny is if they just made a giant chain of uni-mover chairs. I don't mean like a doombuggie.. I mean like a chair. And all you did was sit down in this chair and they strapped you in. And you went 2mph down the peoplemover track. Ahahahahaaa people would be breaking free from that thing and jumping to get them off the darn ride already ;)

111702

10-12-2005, 03:11 PM

Mighty Unicorn

10-12-2005, 06:26 PM

Peoplemover Matt, is there any truth to that story about the guy dying on the Peoplemover? The way that guy told the silly details was soooooo cheesy, it was like a bad campfire story.... "And in place of his hand, was a giant..... rusty..... HOOK!!!!!" LOL!

If someone DID manage to get killed on that ride, they deserve a Darwin Award for sure. The gene pool is better for it having happened, LOL!

Also, when I saw the tracks recently, they looked pretty shabby up by the Monorail boarding area... they were all rusted, and unpainted. Tree limbs were growing over the tracks, as well. Have there been any new developments in the last month that I don't know about? I sure hope so!!!

Hans

Stephen

10-12-2005, 07:00 PM

Well lets see...
1: Two people did die on the Peoplemover while trying to get on a different train my climbing out in the Super Speed tunnel, but got crushed and dragged to the outside area untill a CM stopped the ride.

The tracks you are seeing are from the horrible attraction Rocket Rods... the track was reciently painted in the main area where people walk, but the rest of the track has been neclected. The original tracks for the Peoplemover were more like rails, sort of like a train track, only WAY smaller and instead of wood that the tracks are bolted to it's embedded in the cement... and goodwheel tires were sticking out of the center of the tracks which spun and propelled the cars which had no power source, thus making it cheap to build a new train. It could be better/more futuristic if they put like solar panels on the Observatron... half of them would charge up batteries which would be used on cloudy days/eclipses/night and the other half would be used for powering it on the spot.

ian1990

10-17-2005, 09:20 PM

has anybody seen the poeplemover car in the backlot its been there since the ride closed down. "just a thought"
hey shay do you go to newbury park high school,just wonderiung because i have a friend named shay

PeoplemoverMatt

10-18-2005, 11:18 PM

Peoplemover Matt, is there any truth to that story about the guy dying on the Peoplemover? The way that guy told the silly details was soooooo cheesy, it was like a bad campfire story.... "And in place of his hand, was a giant..... rusty..... HOOK!!!!!" LOL!

I don't have the end-all information regarding that, but seeing as the Peoplemover itself has since died, it doesn't really matter. I never knew a Peoplemover without the bars so I'm indifferent to the whole thing.

-- Peoplemover "Someone died on Thunder Mtn too y'know :smile: " Matt

Stephen

10-19-2005, 07:31 AM

Yes, Matt... it's weirdly true that the Peoplemover used to look like the one in your avatar.

bjw_66

10-23-2005, 08:44 PM

What made People mover so great to me was that there were NEVER any long lines for it no matter how busy the park was. It was also just very relaxing and mellow - which is great for older folks like me! I would like to point out that the ride is alive and well in Florida so somebody thinks it is still a great ride! Maybe putting it back in is cheap way to put more attractions into Tomorrowland. I wish - I wish - I wish!

PeoplemoverMatt

10-23-2005, 10:22 PM

It would be cheap in that it wouldn't cost anywhere near the $80M that Nemo is. Park management likes cheap right? All the more reason to resurrect the Peoplemover! :biggrin:

-- Peoplemover "There are plans in the works remember..." Matt

Piglet

10-24-2005, 01:18 PM

I would like to point out that the ride is alive and well in Florida so somebody thinks it is still a great ride!

Are you serious?? There really is still a Peoplemover in Disney World?? I had no idea! I've never been to Disney World. I would love to see some ride video.

CLASSIC HM

10-24-2005, 06:39 PM

I would love for the Peoplemover to return. I don't remember ever going on it. It would give you a nice look of tomorrowland. And it would make Tomorrowland less "empty".

Ezra

10-25-2005, 03:12 AM

Ezra

10-25-2005, 03:16 AM

Here's an idea: Instead of having 3 or 4 of them in a line like a tram... have individual ones, sort of like the "personal transit systems" they used to talk about building... That'd be cool.

The plastic look's gotta go, though. My vote is brushed steel and lots of chrome.

It was also just very relaxing and mellow - which is great for older folks like me!

Older folks? I loved peoplemover as a child. I used to buy extra D-tickets just so I could go on it again

linklewtt

10-25-2005, 02:18 PM

^^i agree with the plastic look. the PM was created in what i like to call "Nostalgic Tomorrowland" a tomorrowland full of blacks and whites and plastics to seem more like NASA and the 1950-60 version of space travel. Today the clolr pallette has changed, and out perception of space travel includes blacks but also reds, blues, and any other colors. Our imagination of the unknown is greater than that of Nostalgic Tomorrowland, and the PM if put back in should reflect that great change.

Also, I have no idea in which thread i read this, but the rocks put at the entrance to tomorrowland are in reference to Mars and the many rocks found there...remember that when those rocks were built and installed Mars was a great curiousity...it still is, since we want to make it our next landing site, and the designers of the New Tomorrowland in 98 wanted to reflect that feeling of the unknown being Mars.

PeoplemoverMatt

10-25-2005, 11:40 PM

^ Actually the plan is for NASA to build more or less of a base on the moon, and then go to Mars. On that note, for the last 7 years, my understanding of the rocks' presence were to be a "mini-berm" as ludicrous a notion as that is. There used to be something called The American Space Experience which was little more than a display of various NASA apparatii including the Mars Pathfinder rover.

-- Peoplemover "I wish the 98 Tomorrowland was an unknown being..." Matt

koutesu

11-02-2005, 02:17 PM

Disneyland- The Old Peoplemover- Reports of operating girls (especially those with long blonde hair) would sometimes feel an unseen person, viciously pull their hair. The boy died few years ago on a Grad Nite, when he jumped out of the cabin of the Peoplemover, he got caught and dragged underneath the car. He grabbed desperately at his girlfriend's long blond hair to save himself from being killed by the car.

That's what cause the closing of the Peoplemover ride after that accident. It closed on 1996. The tracks must be haunted by a young teenager from the 1990's. When he got crushed by the Peoplemover cars.

I completely forgot about this thread (my last post in this thread was Aug. something) and it was before the post I have quoted. I feel like I have to get this monkey off my back or it will bug me all day. Two people have been killed on the People Mover, but it was not as recent as this person describes. For one, the People Mover closed in August of '95, not '96. It wasn't haunted by a teen from the '90s. I believe both accidents happened in the '70s. I know one happened in the Superspeed Tunnel (where the 2nd floor of Innoventions is now) and I believe that's the one where the guy was trying to get his girlfriend's purse (hence the urban legend about girls with long hair feeling someone pull on it). I'm not sure where the other happened. It was either near the old Circlevision Theatre or in the Tunnel between where it left Adventure Thru Innerspace (now Star Tours) and entered Space Mountain. Wherever it happened, the guy was climbing out of one car and into the other. He fell and was either dragged or run over by the next train (despite being plastic, they would be heavy because you do have the skeletal structure, riding chassis, and all of the springs and things that open and close the doors-purely mechanical,). I think that was the accident that led to installation of safety bars on all 52 (or however many they had) trains. If you watch the old special "Disneyland: From Pirates of the Carribean to the World of Tomorrow", you'll see the cars never had safety bars (you even see an ignorant man sitting on the edge of the car) when it opened.

sp 4449

11-06-2005, 09:40 PM

I like that chrome idea it would look good with brushed aluminium or candy apple red

k_peek_2000

11-12-2005, 08:43 AM

Oh Candy Apple Red Is My Favorate Color!

ryguy222

11-12-2005, 10:33 AM

i think they should get the tomorrowland transportation authority. how do those work without any wheels

ryguy222

11-13-2005, 11:35 AM

one thing, many think that disney closed the rocket rods because it could of made fractures in the track. then many rides would be ruined, maybe they'll redo the whole track that'd take a while but it'd be more intresting to watch then the slow going submarines project

Disneyland_Wolf

11-13-2005, 11:54 AM

Tomorromland is still a little dissapointing land. Because the PeopleMover is missing and the rocket rods damaged the track.

HISTA is getting OUTDATED!!! They should replaced it with a special 3D movie or a indoor space attraction. Like the movie The Black Hole.

Space Mountain is fine.

Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters is fine with me, but it doesn't do anything with Tomorromland and it's theme.

"What ever happened to the Motorboat Cruise attraction."

ryguy222

11-15-2005, 06:25 PM

two words the motor boat cruise went bye-bye

RocketRodsluver123

11-17-2005, 10:35 AM

k_peek_2000

11-18-2005, 05:12 PM

Why dont we throw some jet engines on it and have ice cream serving robots onboard while your at it.

ryguy222

11-22-2005, 05:03 PM

um, okay somone has been thinking a little bit to hard Lol!

111702

11-22-2005, 07:01 PM

Why dont we throw some jet engines on it and have ice cream serving robots onboard while your at it.

I half agree actually!

Jet engines (NOT real ones!) would look cool! Maybe they could make the Peoplemover go faster on the straight parts of the track!!! So it makes it feel like the jets are doing it! COOL!:p

I'm sure a lot of people would like the "fast on straight track" idea, but I'm equally sure that true fans to the original (obviously you PeoplemoverMatt) would probably be skeptical or not even like it.

Anyway, the Ice Cream serving robots are a little....well.....much. But the Peoplemover COULD use better technology to make it more efficient! Also, and I'm sure this is on some people's minds, they could use more cool effects in the dark tunnels!

For instance, Space Mountain has closed off the windows that look into it, so what are they going to do with the dark tunnel? I have an idea that just might work! They could put a bunch of hidden disco balls everywhere, just like SM, and make it look like your flying though space, just like SM! This idea is VERY EXCITING and adds to the numerous possibilities!!!:p

AlexLoup

11-24-2005, 06:49 PM

I don't care what they do with it, as long as they bring back the Tron tunnel and the butt shaking Storm Trooper (don't ask).

111702

11-25-2005, 09:11 PM

I don't care what they do with it, as long as they bring back the Tron tunnel and the butt shaking Storm Trooper (don't ask).

...OMG! Please let me ask!!!:eek: What is the butt-shakin' Storm Trooper!?:eek:

PeoplemoverMatt

11-25-2005, 10:40 PM

There was a storm trooper where you took a quick right turn and headed into Space Mountain. He was waving his gun back & forth at you twisting horizontally.

-- PMM :cool:

AlexLoup

11-26-2005, 12:15 AM

Thank you Matt, yeah him. And I don't mean to sound immature but if I remeber his behind faced the Star Tours Store so that when you looked up he was shaking hi behind at you. We used to say that he was mooning the costumers below. I miss him.

Wdzni

11-26-2005, 10:14 AM

yeah, that ice cream serving robot thing is way out there, but that would be nice to have a slow moving track ride that served snacks. Like a moving snack shack....
im just saying..

The Not-Lit Meteor

11-26-2005, 09:53 PM

exactly, it wouldnt take to long to reinforce the track, and make suitabl for rocket rods, banked turns i mean, and instead of tearing out the first and last turns (take off and re entry) install a banked curve on top of the flat turn, if u know what im talkin about, and make an extra support so it will be durable!

That's actually a good idea! Except if we did that, I'd want to do it right and not only do that on the first two turns, but all of them.

PeoplemoverMatt

11-27-2005, 01:24 AM

^ Again, the engineering & construction involved in that is extremely extensive, especially to be what it would need to be. Remember Disneyland has no off-season of long-term closure to allow heavy construction equipment to be there. Even if they went for a Peoplemover-type ride, there is still a severe construction issue there. Tomorrowland can't be completely closed again for a very long time.

-- Peoplemover "Even though it really needs to be in order to do what really needs to be done, hence the conundrum..." Matt

WeHaveIgnition05

01-17-2006, 11:17 PM

that is true

but i sure wish they figure something out

as for the ice cream...good idea...but then again not lol

you know what would be really kool
if they made alittle thing for the history of space travel
like during the people mover

with like kool videos and effects and maybe even some props

and maybe even during the old tron tunnel
along with the space travel
have a look at the ever changing tomarrowland along with the advances of space travel?

and when you come out the other end
a look at what tomarrowland looks like today
________________________________________ _________________________
NASA and Disney
Working Together
To Make a Brighter Tomarrow - For Space

PeoplemoverMatt

01-18-2006, 12:34 AM

They had something similar to that called the American Space Experience where BLAB FastPass is now. It was there between Rods' closing and Buzz's construction.

-- PMM :cool:

50yearsofmagic

01-18-2006, 07:44 PM

It would be SOOO nice to see the peoplemovers back, one of my favorite things to do at WDW on really busy days is just get on the TTA (WDW version of peoplemovers) and just ride them around...and around...and around..and around....lol

stitchhead28

01-18-2006, 07:51 PM

Now if they do decide to bring the Peoplemover back, would they have the entrance to the ride where it originally was (using speed ramps) or the old tunnels where the Rocket Rods queue was (entering through the giant double doors in the shop where the exit to Buzz is currently). A better question is what how would they pull this off? PMM already explained that they cannot close down Tomorrowland as a whole again, and during the last rennovation of the area, the imagineers did a job on the track to incorporate the car technology and rip out the old system. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to bring it back, personally I loved that ride! (even though my family joking refers to it during its final days of operation as the Peoplewalker) I'm just saying it's going to be interesting to see how the imagineers is going to pull it off to bring it back, and update it for current times and audiences.

(Whom I kidding! It's Disneyland! Anything can happen here!)

dreamscometrue555

01-20-2006, 06:59 PM

what about when you look in to the tomorrowland buildings,
isnt the space mountain part of the track just black now and you cant see inside?

PeoplemoverMatt

01-20-2006, 10:13 PM

Yes but the track was undisturbed and protected during construction.

-- PMM :cool:

The_real_simmer_3

02-17-2006, 06:42 PM

the FART train? LOL!
Now who will ride that?Not me that's for sure.:p

k_peek_2000

02-17-2006, 07:19 PM

Rumors Rumors Rumors

I heard that the people mover will go 150 mph and have new short trains because the ride will be so fast that they can average a total of 4 riders a second.

barfownz

02-17-2006, 07:32 PM

^ That rumor is never coming true!

PeoplemoverMatt

02-17-2006, 07:52 PM

Rumors Rumors Rumors

I heard that the people mover will go 150 mph and have new short trains because the ride will be so fast that they can average a total of 4 riders a second.

:icon_roll

-- PMM :cool:

k_peek_2000

02-18-2006, 07:39 AM

It's true a CM told me.

mrskellington

02-18-2006, 08:57 AM

Did you mean 150 MPH or 15 MPH?

The_real_simmer_3

02-18-2006, 03:05 PM

Here's one rumor i fear the most:
The peoplemover will come back as tom morrow's tour of tomorrowland.And the station will be filled with pictures of him. Luckily, that rumor is false, and i hope it will not be true.Having him in innoventions is bad enough.But having him everywhere...:icon_shoc

PeoplemoverMatt

02-18-2006, 07:26 PM

It's true a CM told me.

"And if they told you that wolverines made good house pets, would you believe them?" -- Planes, Trains & Automobiles

-- PMM :cool:

Dakoter

03-07-2006, 11:22 AM

Does anyone have any pictures of the condition of the tracks, showbuildings, and showrooms?

Disneyland Fan

03-07-2006, 12:20 PM

Does anyone have any pictures of the condition of the tracks, showbuildings, and showrooms?

You're not missing much but years of neglect and just another reminder of the Cynthia Harris and Paul Pressler era. ::shudders:: Glad that's over with ;)

~DF~

Executioner

03-07-2006, 12:52 PM

Aaaahhhh!!!! Those names!!!!! *****hisses like a cat***** Stop saying that!!!!
Hopefully they will be announcing something for the track soon. Can't wait till they do something with it.

ArnyVee

03-07-2006, 08:04 PM

For a non-thrill ride, it sure was one of my favorites. I live in South Florida now and enjoy WDW at least once a year. Which ride do we never miss in Tomorrowland? Well, the TTA (Florida's version of the PeopleMover).

I used to ride the PeopleMover every trip to Disneyland as I grew up in Southern California and I moved here to South Florida in '92. So, I've never been without that attraction. I visited Disneyland twice since ....once during the short-lived Rocket Rods attraction's life...not that fun to tell you the truth. And then, once when nothing was on the tracks. It just makes me sick that such an integral part of Tomorrowland is sitting there unused. Just as sickening as the Submarine Voyage (thank goodness that's coming back!).

All I know is that I'll be enjoying the PeopleMo....wait, the TTA in October and taking a double trip (without getting out of the ride vehicle, by the way!) for all of you! :)

Dakoter

03-08-2006, 01:15 PM

I am still curious of the extent of neglect that the people mover faced after a few years of not being in use. Does anyone have any pictures.

Executioner

03-08-2006, 01:19 PM

I know the track towards the back in the Autopia section started getting overrun by plant life. Saw a pic here somewhere with that. Very sad.

disneygeek06

03-08-2006, 05:57 PM

I'll be at dineyland this coming week if you want i could take some photos of the peoplemover track that i can see and we can see just how bad it is

Disneyland_Wolf

03-08-2006, 08:52 PM

The PeopleMover + (1969-1996) closed for 2 years + (1998-2000) grand opening of the Rocket Rods + operated for 2 years and closed at the year of 2000 = The PeopleMover track rusted?!

Isn't it that irony?

SnowWhite

03-12-2006, 12:30 AM

What do you think the chances are that the Peoplemover will re-open in Disneyland?

isisboston666

03-12-2006, 06:43 AM

The_real_simmer_3

03-12-2006, 02:13 PM

I hope the chances are 100% ! Peoplemover or rocket rods, I miss being on that track! Even though I liked the PM more, I was grateful when the rods opened just so I could cruise that track again. But now that RR's are gone, I hope there is a slow moving chilled out relaxing ride put there once again.Actually, there's a 50% chance of it coming back as either of the two(2), and a 50% chance of it never coming back and the track being destroyed altogether.

barfownz

03-12-2006, 02:23 PM

Someday, Some attraction is going to be on the people mover track. It can't just sit there for years.

dc8781

03-12-2006, 07:27 PM

Someday, Some attraction is going to be on the people mover track. It can't just sit there for years.

totally agree.

put something there

disneyson

03-13-2006, 03:20 PM

Maybe a "future" parade?

PeoplemoverMatt

03-13-2006, 09:55 PM

A parade on the Peoplemover track? You can't really see 4/5 of it as it winds around over Autopia, goes through tunnels & the like. Then the parts you can see are all elevated so that's really unlikely. The track is more meant to parade you around Tomorrowland so you can get a really good view of everything.

-- PMM :cool:

disneygeek06

03-16-2006, 09:50 PM

hey ive got a quick question... i just got back from Disneyland and i was wondering why the loading platform was covered at ground level
?

unit23

03-20-2006, 07:14 PM

yo check this out man, this is what was going on behind those walls, i think they are building a line!!!

http://www.jjccreations.ultimatethrillzone.com/random/P3170919.JPG

just found this, pic from today!!

PeoplemoverMatt

03-20-2006, 10:14 PM

Well I certainly hope they're replacing the walkway that used to go on that side of the Peoplemover's entrance. Ever since the '98 tragedy, they've forced all thru traffic go to the right creating what was a painful pinch with Cosmic Waves.

-- PMM :cool:

unit23

03-21-2006, 06:46 PM

Yeah im glad they are clearing that area up! Still disapointed that there won't be a return of the rods.

PeoplemoverMatt

03-23-2006, 01:20 PM

EXCITING RUMOR FROM MICEAGE! (no, that's not an advertisement, that's my excitement)

Now that Buzz Lightyear is a hit and playing host to 20,000 or more riders per day, they can reclaim the seating area stolen from Tomorrowland Terrace* eight years ago when they built the queue tunnel for Rocket Rods. The two dozen Rocket Rods fans out there will remember that the long Rods queue dove underground into a tunnel between the old Circle-Vision theater and the PeopleMover loading area.
That would be the construction we're now seeing...

While WDI works on their plans for an eventual return of the PeopleMover later this decade, they've acknowledged that they'll never need that Rocket Rods queue tunnel again and they can reconfigure the land that sits on top of it for more dining areas for Tomorrowland Terrace. Those blue sky PeopleMover plans and the repositioning of the Rocket Jets on top of the loading area are what have held up the initial plans to rip out the rockwork and reconfigure the space around the Astro Orbiter and the Tomorrowland entrance.

They'll need that extra patio space beside the PeopleMover station because the tables on the other side of the Tomorrowland Terrace dance floor will have to be removed to free up more space once the Submarine Voyage and Monorail queues bring thousands of more people into that plaza area each hour.

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

-- Peoplemover "Tell us how you really feel Matt!" Matt

RollingBoulder

03-23-2006, 04:56 PM

That's so exciting! Not only will we see the Peoplemover again, but the Astro Orbitor will go to it's rightful place as well.

CLASSIC HM

03-24-2006, 06:36 AM

As of now, there's no word on whether the Peoplemover will return or not. Also, it's very likely that the Astro Orbiter will remain where it is for the time being. But it would be great if they did something with the Peoplemover track in the next couple of years.

Ezra

03-24-2006, 09:12 AM

Animatronic Budgie

03-24-2006, 09:20 AM

Ever since the '98 tragedy, they've forced all thru traffic go to the right creating what was a painful pinch with Cosmic Waves.

What tragedy was that?

dctrdez

03-24-2006, 09:29 AM

^^^The retooling of Tomorrowland.

PeoplemoverMatt

03-24-2006, 11:10 AM

Well, this is the Rumor mill, and there is a published rumor in pg. 3 of this article (http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al032106a.htm) by Al Lutz at MiceAge. Sure, Al Lutz is a sensationalist, but he's been right often enough before... He reported the subs Nemo overlay almost a year before WDI announced it, and we'll find out in a couple of months how right or wrong he was on the Pirates changes.

If we wait for official word, that won't come until the Astro Orbiter dissapears from it's current position. That'll be awhile.

I really have yet to see where Lutz is wrong in his description of past, current & future events. Some of his editorial-style commentary is a bit off, most prominently his ultra-negative view of FastPass, but those details he gives on what's going on & what's to come is extremely reliable information.

-- Peoplemover "And a great deal better than word-of-mouth from some front-line CM!" Matt

kates4u

03-24-2006, 09:05 PM

I CAN'T wait for them to announce these plans! Hooray for Tommorrow Land again!
(I know I won't hold my breath though!)

Neo

04-05-2006, 01:53 AM

theres something going on behind those walls as today we got more pics and they will be uploaded tomorrow and there looks like there is a tunnel they are working on. Not sure if they are just removing the tunnel because of possible leaks or maybe changing the queue which i hope. never the less i am waiting to see what else turns up

joeknex

04-15-2006, 08:59 PM

These plans sound awesome! Go TL!

Ezra

04-16-2006, 12:24 AM

I think Al Lutz said that they were going to fill in the Rocket Rods queue tunnel because they were certain they won't be needing it ever again.

ryguy222

04-20-2006, 06:49 PM

^^yea me thinks that if they are going to have people mover they will be needing a tunnel. Or they could do what TTA did and had a big stairway there. I think if they make bigger cars on the astro jets, and make them a little faster, and put them atop the PPM station then i will ride them. If they are up there then its higher, and more thrilling. Also that orbitron thing doesn't move much and its getting boring to watch. And do they even use that radio disney thing anymore? does radio disney still exsist??

RollingBoulder

04-20-2006, 07:02 PM

^ Peoplemover never needed a tunnel. That was just for Rocket Rods. The entrance was right under the tower, like TTA, as you mentioned.

Radio Disney is still around, although I'm not sure why they left Disneyland. I remember someone mentioning that the booth is right where the old elevators to the Rocket Jets were. So that area is open to do that again, if they have the desire.

ryguy222

04-20-2006, 07:41 PM

they better do the elevators thoose things were awesome!

pma812@gmail.com

04-28-2006, 05:23 PM

As much as I loved and miss the peoplemover, do you really think that Disneyland would bring back old rides? I think it would be like admitting they were wrong.

Executioner

04-28-2006, 05:46 PM

As much as I loved and miss the peoplemover, do you really think that Disneyland would bring back old rides? I think it would be like admitting they were wrong.

Well they are bringing back the subs, just in a different theme. Same ride or vehicles that is. So it could happen but in a new form.

HiddenMickey

04-28-2006, 08:33 PM

If Disney can live off the money that kids (who are appealed to the most with all these new renovations and such) borrow from their parents, then Disney can live off the money from the parents themselves who wish for older attractions to be brought back.

ryguy222

04-30-2006, 09:00 PM

As much as I loved and miss the peoplemover, do you really think that Disneyland would bring back old rides? I think it would be like admitting they were wrong.
also they may not use the old cars, they may clone, or maybe make a new type of ppm ride vehicle. Its not old, they have theese things at zoo's and they call them monorails, so its not really old, its just modern. Look at the autopia. They need something on the track, but it can't be RR unless they re bank the turns, and get better supports, that can handle the high speeds. One thing i did notice, they repainted most of the track that can be seen, like by the monorail track, and by the astro orbiters

Ezra

04-30-2006, 10:05 PM

Don't just think of it as a ride. It's a prototype of a real transit system. It was so far ahead of it's time that most places still don't have them. There's one at the Houston Airport, though. Here's an article from the Railway Gazette in favor of PeopleMover-type autmated transit systems: metro automation (http://www.railwaygazette.com/Articles/2005/02/01/290/Customers+stand+to+benefit+most+from+met ro+automation.html) It's a very dry, technical article. But the fact is, PeopleMovers are still on the table as legitimate mass transist systems.

pma812@gmail.com

05-01-2006, 11:32 AM

I guess I can see what you mean about the "old rides" back as the same idea just updated. After all Tomorrowland is supposed to be about what the future is going to be like.

Dakoter

05-02-2006, 11:46 AM

Are there any pictures of the current conditions of the track, queue, or showbuildings?

Neo

05-02-2006, 12:00 PM

ill take some on the 12th. some really good ones.

dreamscometrue555

05-03-2006, 08:25 AM

are they going to redesign the peoplemover cars?
and is it still officially called peoplemover? or TTA?

PeoplemoverMatt

05-03-2006, 11:03 AM

Ok, to restate since it's been a while, there are only extreme vague hints at a possible return for the Peoplemover. As of now even the largest details are purely guesswork & conjecture.

-- PMM :cool:

ryguy222

05-04-2006, 05:12 PM

so did they fill the rocket rods tunnel when there we messing with tomorrowland stage?

calsand

05-21-2006, 09:48 PM

If they do bring back the People Mover, I hope they add a Pod Race Sequence (SW EP1) either before you enter the Star Tours area or after. And keep Tron in there somewhere...

ClassicDisney

05-25-2006, 05:01 PM

I dont think that it is going to come back anytime soon... if it was i believe we would see a lot more work goign on already!!

PeoplemoverMatt

05-25-2006, 05:13 PM

^ Why? The track's not going anywhere. There'd be no difference between starting work now vs 5 years from now.

-- PMM :cool:

ryguy222

05-26-2006, 10:35 AM

well the track is differn't, I don't think they'd use the RR track for the PPM. They might, but i think they'd use now what they got in WDW. And that means that they do have to do some work. They have painted most of the track that can be seen, but thats just bc it was pretty rusty. Also the speed that the Rocket Rods went at could have damged some strutual stuff. So they'd have to fix that as well. But do u know if they filled it or not?
-ryguy222

PeoplemoverMatt

05-26-2006, 11:54 AM

Actually the track itself is the same, and that was a big part of the problem. Sure they redesigned & rework the track's surface for the Rods, but didn't do anything to reinforce it structurally. Nor did they ever alter the structure of the track in anyway. The track was found to be fractured in some places but I don't know of any exact details on how that was addressed. My best guess is they did what they had to in order to ensure the track wouldn't collapse, but still have much work to do for anything to run on it again.

It wasn't the speed of the Rods that hurt the track, if anything going faster over a bridge puts less stress on it. What made the track fracture was the stress caused by the heavy braking zones at various points along the route. Most noteably, the entrance into Star Tours, Innoventions, and all the fluctuations in speed over Autopia.

Whatever happens, it's going to take A LOT of construction work to get something out on the Peoplemover track again. I mean just look at everything that's happening with the Subs. Disney has a huge advantage there because its an isolated area seperate and apart from everything. The Peoplemover track is the complete opposite. It reaches over, above, under & through just about all of Tomorrowland. How Disney could possibly keep Tomorrowland open and install something new on the Peoplemover track is the one question no one can seem to answer.

It's needed, because you aren't going to just shut down Tomorrowland entirely. Can you imagine the negative feedback if an entire land is shut down? Especially when it contains the newest E-ticket, Space Mountain. It's the $64,000 question & for over a decade now, there's been no definitive answer.

-- Peoplemover "But there is always an answer, it's just a matter of finding it. :smile:" Matt

Ezra

05-26-2006, 01:05 PM

When Fantasyland was closed for it's remodel, you could walk through the castle and on the other side it was all painted plywood walls surrounding the carousel and Dumbo, which were the only attractions open. That was pretty extreme, but something like that could be done for Tomorrowland. We'd be walking between lots of plywood walls and through tunnels in them whereever the track crosses the pathways. It won't be pretty...

Neo

05-26-2006, 01:09 PM

you know they could do small sections at a time. Like do something over autopia and then near the monorail. then go inside a building. then do some outside work. then inside work. outside work. so that way its open somewhat.

ryguy222

05-26-2006, 10:37 PM

A thing they could do is start with all the inside stuff. Make Plywood coverings that start at the ground and go up. Then have tunnels going through that. So basicly make a bulding around the track. They have made tunnels before like when world of disney was getting a pain job or when schmoozies was getting a paint job. But then again they would need an awful lot of space to get machinery in there. Hmmm well how did they make the transition from PPM to RR? I know there was less work, but they had to take out those tires because i haven't seen them. Plus i really don't think they could have tires there with that style of track. So i don't get how you say its the same type of track.
-ryguy222

disneyland123

05-29-2006, 12:36 AM

So wait, the PeopleMover is the ride they chose for the track?

ryguy222

05-29-2006, 09:25 AM

^^ok well we don't know that. but thinking logicaly, RR ruined the track a little bit, so they had to fix it so it wouldn't fall down. Now if they fixed it a little bit why would they keep it. I mean why waste the money to fix it if they aren't going to use it. Well i think they are going to use it eventually. Now they probably won't get RR back up because that would cost too much. They'd have to bank the turns and probalby replace the whole track, or atleaset all the supports. Now either way they still need to do more work on the track for something to run up there. But if they fixed it and put up the rocket rods, then it would get damaged again. Also its cheaper to use the same type of track that WDW has because they already know how to make it and thus will have less error. That would be the cheaper way and ppl will still be happy. They probably won't provide funding for a new type of attraction so that is why we think ppm is next. Something is going to be going on that track otherwise they would have torn it down.
-ryguy222

Executioner

05-29-2006, 11:50 AM

Not really. It would also cost alot to tear it out, plus that would also mean closing TL fo awhile and the don't seem to be wanting to do that anytime soon. After all SM ist open and BLAB is open. Plus if they took it out they would also have to do work on the station because thye ripped the track out. Either way, it is going to cost them a pretty penny and probably involve the closure of TL fo a short time. So it might not be for quite some time before they do anything, also considering that they are reopening the Subs and get new Monorails. Maybe after a year or so of the Subs being open they might decide to do something.

ryguy222

05-30-2006, 09:04 AM

^^yea i guess thats a true statement. But they may want to preserve that because of the ppm success at WDW.

Executioner

05-31-2006, 01:27 AM

True. But they really don't seem to be too concerned about the track or the lack of an attraction on it right now. I wouldn't put it past Disney to completelty rip out the station and the track leading to the Hub and put the Astro Orbitors in it's place. They also don't seem too worried about moving the astro Orbitor and removing the rocks in front of it either. Man I hope they do that soon.

ryguy222

06-01-2006, 10:08 AM

^^yea they need to either get rid of the bronze and put a gold color on, or tear them out. I really don't like the bronze color. And they should move the astro orbiters. Thats a high traffic area at night during shows, and it wouldn't be to bad then. I remeber it took me about ten mintues to get from the rocks, to star tours. Everyone uses that way to go down to Small world. We were going to go there but were like oh there's the monorial lets go this is to crowded. From entering Tomorowland to getting to the monorail took like half an hour. Either way they need to start thinking about crowd control.

isisboston666

06-01-2006, 09:31 PM

Does anyone think it would be possible for them to get a new version of the PM up and running by the time Nemo opens? I know it would cost them a bit of money, but if they got Nemo, PM v.2, and the final version of Rockit Mountain going, they could run promotions for "A New Tomorrowland" and make all their money back in no time. I don't know if this could work, but it seems to me like they're sitting on a gold mine in exchange for some minor costs.

HiddenMickey

06-02-2006, 05:05 PM

Probably not enough time. The track needs a lot of work.

ryguy222

06-05-2006, 04:51 PM

^^It could be possible but it'd be very difficult, and they are being lazy now and i don't think they'd do all that work. I think were lucky enough to have the subs coming back.

PeoplemoverMatt

06-05-2006, 05:20 PM

This thread is starting to sound like the Pirates thread, just going around in circles. There hasn't been anything new regarding the Peoplemover in a while, but when there is, trust me, you'll know about it. :smile:

-- PMM :cool:

ryguy222

07-02-2006, 09:46 AM

^^yup thats true. Ny way i noticed in some of Darkbeers pics the track that goes around the sub lagoon and over autopia has been painted. In fact i think its all painted now. Hmmmmm
-ryguy222

PeoplemoverMatt

07-02-2006, 11:04 AM

That's good, after all, we can't be like Magic Mountain & believe our rides don't need repainting even after 15 years of operation now can we?

-- PMM :cool:

ryguy222

07-03-2006, 09:13 AM

^^yea thats true...
Also the lights have been turning on recently. I know some nights they were and some nights they wern't. Anyways im going to a convention in texas and our youth leader said we might go to 6 flags over texas. Is that worse then MM?

Mr. EPCOT

07-06-2006, 05:23 PM

To make sure things keep going around in circles here :rolleyes:, it would seem to make sense to me that it would be just as expensive or more to tear all of the current track, supports, etc., out than to just reinstall the WEDWay track.

mcstewart37

07-07-2006, 10:28 AM

They don't even have to tear out the rocket rods track, they can just design new peoplemover-like vehicles that will fit.

The old rocket rods track has everything a peoplemover needs: power, vehicle position sensors, treads for tires, the tube in the middle for steering...

pma812@gmail.com

07-10-2006, 12:04 PM

ryguy222

07-11-2006, 06:53 PM

^^well they did paint the track not just but the AO but everywhere above the autopia even in startours and space mountain. So its not that bad.......
-ryguy222

k_peek_2000

07-11-2006, 08:00 PM

PeoplemoverMatt

07-12-2006, 07:54 AM

I think our tomarrowland needs another full revamp. I think that it was walts origional plan to completely revamp tomarrowland every say 20 years. I think it would be cool for another Tomarrowland revamp in like 2010. Sence our tomarrowlands entrance structures (the pointy thingys) have been there forever. We need somthing new.

Walt did acknowledge that Tomorrowland should change with time as time marches on, but that was more referring to things like with a real moon landing having taken place, their ride should then go to Mars instead. That being said, the last Tomorrowland revamp was so horrendously bad, it's already overdue for another one.

But those "pointy things" at the entrance have not been there forever, far from it. They were added in the Tomorrowland revamp prior to '98. Since '98 they've been re-painted more than once, and most of the entrance structures have had neon effects added to them as well. '98 gave a fresh look to the entrance, even though it became stale quite rapidly.

-- PMM :cool:

mcstewart37

07-12-2006, 09:14 AM

PeoplemoverMatt: The pointy things K_peek_2000 was talking about have been a feature of the tomorrowland entrance since the 1960's. Another spire was added in 1987 when Star Tours opened.

Here look at this pic taken in 1996:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tomorrowland96_wb.jpg

It looks like it could have been taken in the 1960's. Retro is cool, but only if its intentional and done right...

Harrison Hightower III

07-12-2006, 10:23 AM

Mabe similar to MK's TL entrance I think it looks cool. Can they remove the Observatron and place the AO on top of it because trust me that makes the entrance 7 X cooler! I don't know how excactly to change the PM but you could use the same technology as the TTA (if it isn't using that already).

PeoplemoverMatt

07-12-2006, 10:39 AM

PeoplemoverMatt: The pointy things K_peek_2000 was talking about have been a feature of the tomorrowland entrance since the 1960's. Another spire was added in 1987 when Star Tours opened.

Right, first Tomorrowland was in 1955, then a major renovation to it came in 1959, and then another major renovation came out in 1967. It was the '67 Tomorrowland where the 'pointy things' were built.

-- PMM :cool:

k_peek_2000

07-12-2006, 01:03 PM

Exactly. We need a MAJOR revamp. Like majorly. I really hate the mini Discoveryland that was, well almost used to have with the gold space mountain, and Rocket Rods. Maybe a big revamp could help it alot! It could fix the whole nemo situation by moving the entrance to Fantasyland. It could just overall fix the pure blandness of it. I dont really like the overhead track without somthing on it. It just takes up spaceand it would be alot better than just a "roofing thing". Or perhaps take that out (Sorry pmm) and put a ride similar but better or somthing that can make our tomarrowland one of a kind again. As opposed to just. Being the worst tomarrowland of them. When infact Tomarrowland was Walts most ambitious land when disneyland opened (not counting NOS).

mcstewart37

07-12-2006, 01:05 PM

PeoplemoverMatt: =) but why did you say they were added in 1998?

those "pointy things" at the entrance have not been there forever, far from it. They were added in the Tomorrowland revamp prior to '98.

Harrison Hightower III

07-12-2006, 01:48 PM

Hey K_peek moving the subs with FL didn't work for MK so...no.

PeoplemoverMatt

07-12-2006, 02:25 PM

PeoplemoverMatt: =) but why did you say they were added in 1998?
Yea he said PRIOR TO. Not on the spot.

Right, I just couldn't think of the exact year off hand so I said the one prior to '98, whatever year that was. :smile:

Exactly. We need a MAJOR revamp. Like majorly. I really hate the mini Discoveryland that was, well almost used to have with the gold space mountain, and Rocket Rods. Maybe a big revamp could help it alot! It could fix the whole nemo situation by moving the entrance to Fantasyland. It could just overall fix the pure blandness of it. I dont really like the overhead track without somthing on it. It just takes up spaceand it would be alot better than just a "roofing thing". Or perhaps take that out (Sorry pmm) and put a ride similar but better or somthing that can make our tomarrowland one of a kind again. As opposed to just. Being the worst tomarrowland of them. When infact Tomarrowland was Walts most ambitious land when disneyland opened (not counting NOS).

Wow...k_peek & I agree on something. *checks for apocalypse*

Another revamp is sorely needed, but it isn't going to happen really. They've already invested a ton into the repainting, new mural, BLAB, new Club Buzz seating area, and the massive pavement project that we're stuck with what we got possibly for a very long time. 31 years went between Tomorrowland revamps before '98. That being said, the original one must have really been terrible because '98 outlasted it. '98 was mostly changed in '04 w/ repainting and new mural and BLAB's opening & pavement project completion. '55 Tomorrowland lasted only until the first major refurb in 1959.

Unfortunately, since it looks like we're stuck, the Peoplemover track is stuck as well. But, only one of two futures can happen. Either overhaul Tomorrowland again and either reinstall something on that track or demolish it entirely...or leave Tomorrowland as is, and the Peoplemover track will just forever be there abandoned. Right now, abandonment looks like the future, at least in short term.

No construction can happen on that track without massive closures of rides. Star Tours, BLAB, Space Mountain, Innoventions, and Autopia would all have to be closed at some point for construction of the new ride. Now, it could be done with staggered construction schedules and closures coinciding with normal refurbs of those rides, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Park management to grow a brain like that.

-- PMM :cool:

mcstewart37

07-12-2006, 02:32 PM

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:p

unit23

07-17-2006, 01:43 AM

yea good point. it may take another 31 years or so for this tomarrowland to get a refurb as well, who knows, sad, but theres still lots to do at the park despite that. would like to something on that track though.

mattsteller

07-17-2006, 08:37 PM

You and me both!!! Man I am soo sick of that track being empty...I would rather them put back the ppm!!! That was an awsome ride when I was younger ( an upgraded version of course). But what are gonna do......Disney isn't what it used to be

Neo

07-18-2006, 04:41 PM

Hey i think they should make tomorrowland exactly like that pic above

(this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tomorrowland96_wb.jpg)

at least structural-wise(you know what i mean)

it looks like something from star trek and we still dont have any better ideas of what the feature will be like. I think star trek and star wars are the best examples of the FAR FAR FAR future. (not the characters but the structures)

PeoplemoverMatt

07-18-2006, 05:04 PM

I think star trek and star wars are the best examples of the FAR FAR FAR future.

...but only Star Trek claims to be in the future. Star Wars always leads off with "A Long Time Ago, In a Galaxy Far, Far Away..." :smile:

-- Peoplemover "Been watching the beautiful tapestry that is Star Trek: Deep Space Nine again lately...man that is good stuff" Matt

Neo

07-18-2006, 05:20 PM

yes but thats because it is based on the time of space (meaning this galaxy will take us 'a long time' to get to) and by the time we get there the story is now long ago. So in actual reality it is based in the present just so far that its the past.

Im not a good explainer of the star wars theories. or space theories. But im sure you understand right? LOL

ryguy222

07-18-2006, 08:11 PM

^^yea i under stand that. Anyways, I think Matt is right. Its going to probably be abondend for a long time. If they tear it down all of tomorrowland will be closed. And people who have alergies are going to have to stay on hi alreat. Tear down = dust. Long track = tons of dust!!! So tomorrowland would HAVE to be closed. For sure. Everything closed there. And people would have to deal with all that dust. And i do have alergies and it sucks when that stuff comes around. Anyways i don't think disney is willing to risk that. If you have ever been front in line where mainstreet connects to the hub in the morning when they have the ribbons down and haven't opened? Well notice that tons of people run off toward Tomorrowland. Also it always has the longest lines. I mean star tours and blab are sometimes worse then the train, or even BTMRR!
So im pretty sure they would loose lots of people and that means lots of money gone. And the spire things aren't so bad. Its just they way they are painted. What about chrome? instead of that awful bronze. Its like fading and it looks terrible. But they could stay open if they did a little bit at a time. The rocks in front of the astro orbiter are terrible. Its already bad enough that the astro oribiter is there. Its a big crowd issue. If you ever go that way an hour b4 RDCT its insane. It took me an hour and a half to get from the astro orbiter to the monorail. By then i was so mad i just toook the monorail out and left. Now most of that time spent was at the astro orbiter. It took about 30 min from those rock things to star tours. So if they took the rocks out. And the ppm track near star tours. They could keep Star tours and blab open . They would just need tarps and ppl would have to walk around to the monorail matterhorn side. Im thinking thats the main problem. Just the T top of the T right there. The other stuff could come out later closing the ppm station area. And so on. If they did a little bit at a time it would work. ANd they could leave the indoor track and get it later. Its not a big deal say star tours just tarp up the windows and keep fans running inside. Space mtn fully cover up so light won't leak through. Autopia would be the only issue but they could close that. I don't think many ppl will skip coming to DL bc the Autopia is closed. So if they did that it could work. But who knows what the heck will happen. Hopefully they will have a dream and walt will tell them what to do. LOL
-ryguy222

Ezra

07-18-2006, 10:55 PM

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/ezrad/Tomorrowland/TL67ent.jpg
What more can I say?

PeoplemoverMatt

07-18-2006, 11:18 PM

OMG it's the Bell logo! I haven't seen that in FOREVER!

-- PMM :cool:

Neo

07-18-2006, 11:20 PM

the PPM track reminds me of star trek doors over the entrance to TL

i have no clue what it is its weird

PeoplemoverMatt

07-19-2006, 01:17 AM

^ You should focus more on being the guy in charge of budgets for attractions. That way you would ensure what gets built because you control the money. :smile:

-- PMM :cool:

Evan-500

07-19-2006, 03:02 AM

they'd have to replace the track, remember the rocket rods caused damage to them.

PeoplemoverMatt

07-19-2006, 10:26 AM

Right Evan, and that's the whole paradox of the situation. You can't fix the track because of all the construction issues that it would cause, but you can't knock the track down either for the same reasons.

-- PMM :cool:

ryguy222

07-20-2006, 12:04 PM

Exactly and thats why ^^you said that its just going to sit there. And it probably will for a few more years.
-ryguy222

The_real_simmer_3

07-20-2006, 08:10 PM

The could do some fixing at night, when the park is closed.

ryguy222

07-20-2006, 10:30 PM

Thats tru, not too much tho they could close tomorrowland early to get a head start and work untill the park opens then just board it up a little. The stuff inside buldings is good tho

Neo

07-20-2006, 10:33 PM

Well to tell you the truth they could Re-do All of tomorrowland in a week. (if they choose to)

There are enough contractors and construction workers in California to build a skyscraper in a matter of months.

So if they had people working night and day for about a month they could redo the entire people mover track and the outside of the buildings. Of course it might not be so pretty. But its possible.

ryguy222

07-20-2006, 10:37 PM

That is true but they would still have to close it for a month. And that would suck.
-ryguy222

Neo

07-20-2006, 10:38 PM

a month aint bad SM was closed for what over 30 times that LOL

PeoplemoverMatt

07-20-2006, 10:54 PM

LOL Guys, the CalTrans approach isn't going to work here. You'd need some really heavy equipment to do what needs to be done there. It can't really be moved in and out again on a nightly basis.

-- PMM :cool:

Neo

07-20-2006, 11:11 PM

i dont mean just at night I mean 24/7 round the clock working. of course that wont happen but you know it is still possible.

G2-4T

07-21-2006, 08:18 AM

Earlier this week I (with the help of some other dedicated Peoplemover fans) started a petition and website to see if we can't get Disneyland to bring back the Peoplemover. There have been persistent rumors that it may be coming back but the thought is that management might need a little push to show that people really do want to see it back. Anyways - here are the links to the petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/pplmover/petition.html

Please sign on and also help us spread the word!

Grim Grinning Ghost

07-21-2006, 08:40 AM

Cool. I think it'd be neat to have the people mover back. I dont think it has a place in tomorrow land tho, seeing as how it's an old technology.

Ezra

07-21-2006, 10:14 AM

It doesn't have to be brought back using the old propulsion system. Since it has to be re-created anyway, it can be redesigned to use something more modern, like magnetics.

If you don't think it belongs in Tomorrowland, look at it this way: It's a transit system that's always on, requires no driver, and has nearly no wait time to board. That makes it unique. It's still futuristic in a sense that it's a viable transportation system that's not commonly in use everywhere. Does your town have anything like it?

Even though it was invented 40 years ago, it's still not widely in use. This article (http://www.railwaygazette.com/Articles/2005/02/01/290/Customers+stand+to+benefit+most+from+met ro+automation.html) in The Railway Gazette argues for it's use as a legitimate mass transit system.

debijeanm

07-21-2006, 11:51 AM

You're so right, Ez! The only place I've seen a monorail type system is in Primm, Nevada, ferrying people across Hwy 15 between one casino and another.

Tomorrowland used to be where the Disney imagineers made projections about what could be in place in the future (like in, "Tomorrowland"?). Imagine where we'd be with our energy problems if cities had started adopting monorail and peoplemover systems 40 years ago! And with the cost of food escalating due to escalating fuel prices, we are looking at using our ornamental flower beds for food plants, too, like they do in Tomorrowland.

Disneyland Fan

07-21-2006, 12:14 PM

Let's merge this discussion with the Official Peoplemover Thread in the Rumor Mill.

~DF~

Nesha

07-21-2006, 12:18 PM

There should be a petition to bring CBJ back!
Just a thought...a tiny thought

G2-4T

07-24-2006, 07:20 AM

Ezra and Debi are both on the right track [no pun intended]. It is still a futuristic transit option. And there are ways to bring it up to the modern day, I've seen suggestions from folks with ideas such as small video screens in each car with info/facts/"ads" for each ride you pass thru on the route. So there ways to both keep the original idea and add some features that were never imagined when it first opened...

Darkrider

07-25-2006, 12:06 AM

Hmm. I don't Know guys... I loved they ride but I just don?t like it's tag line."Ride tomorrows transportation today." I just don't think he future is in public transportation.

Executioner

07-25-2006, 01:07 AM

Hmm. I don't Know guys... I loved they ride but I just don’t like it's tag line."Ride tomorrows transportation today." I just don't think he future is in public transportation.

Of course it is. Look at the costs of gas now. And the cost of a new car, plus all the maintenance. If there was a transportation system set up that was continually running and you didn't have to wait for a driver cause the next car is 1 second away, you wouldn't take that to work or somewhere else? Heck if it got me to work I would so take it to save money. Keep my car for recreational use and or getting stuff you can't carry on those. Less wear and tear on my car and the more money I will save.

ryguy222

07-25-2006, 10:46 AM

Ok if its not futuristic then why is it at WDW? We could use that propulsion method im not sure how that works becuse i have only seen it once i think its magnets. But it is futuristic since its not in use in many places. Not very many towns have good mass transit systems. AZ's bus system is terrible its about an hour between each bus! Sometimes u get lucky and only wait 45 minutes. So and we are just getting something that is expiermetnal a light rail system that goes between the B.O.B (bank one ball park or i guess now chase field) and between the U.S. airways areana and probably cardnals stdium. Its only expiermental and they only expand if it gets lots of use. Anyways point being this is still futristic.
-ryguy222

Darkrider

07-25-2006, 03:58 PM

Of course it is. Look at the costs of gas now. And the cost of a new car, plus all the maintenance. If there was a transportation system set up that was continually running and you didn't have to wait for a driver cause the next car is 1 second away, you wouldn't take that to work or somewhere else? Heck if it got me to work I would so take it to save money. Keep my car for recreational use and or getting stuff you can't carry on those. Less wear and tear on my car and the more money I will save.

Okay then just look at the metro sytem today. There is a limit to the places you can go. Okay why then fly... expensive. Lets look at the public transportation of yesterday. In the days of the tras contaneal(SP?) A train would take you any place bc they ran every where BUT the train sytem was croupt. Think Pholman rail. sure If there was a transportation system set up that was continually running that would be great but think of Social classes. If in the future we are still a capitolist society then I dont think any Public moving transportation sytem will be any difernt from todays metro.

I do think However The future lies in Eclectic vehicles such as Hondas EV