The Official Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage Thread! *Merged Threads-Possible Spoilers*

[MisterDooDah]

Ok I was in discussion with an upper management at DL and we spoke on the sub lagon and its fate, the rummor has it that WED is not sure what to make of it yet and this was on friday of June. The lagon was to become a a finding nemo ride / Captian Nemo and now Unsure what to do with the subs. The only thing they where sure on was that the subs had to come back.. so what are your thoughts?

[Soda]

I think it would be kind of neat if they brought the old subs back, but added a section that features Nemo.

[icarian]

Ok I was in discussion with an upper management at DL and we spoke on the sub lagon and its fate, the rummor has it that WED is not sure what to make of it yet and this was on friday of June. The lagon was to become a a finding nemo ride / Captian Nemo and now Unsure what to do with the subs. The only thing they where sure on was that the subs had to come back.. so what are your thoughts?

By WED i assume you mean WDI, and by lagon i assume you mean lagoon. Im not going to touch the rest of this.....

[AlxVision360]

Here are the latest pics of progress in the sub lagoon provided by "CTS Forever":

http://mousetimes.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=340

[Stephen]

So as I was asking before the board was updated, I was wondering if anyone knew what powered the subs on their little underwater track? Was there a motor on a little tire, or was it propelled by a turbine, and the track was just there to guide it? Thanks, Stephen

[icarian]

the subs are deisel motors... propellor driven i think, but i could be wrong on that.

[MisterDooDah]

By WED i assume you mean WDI, and by lagon i assume you mean lagoon. Im not going to touch the rest of this.....

Good call thanks ! :redface:

[Mickey Man]

I think it would be nice to bring back the subs. I don't know what the nemo ride woulda been like so you cant really debate it.

[GOOFYCHICK]

I miss the subs too, but hopefully the nemo ride will be even better.

[FigmentJedi]

Judging from recent photos of holes being cut into the rockwork, I'm assuming new animatronic fish/Nemo characters will be in the lagoon in addition to the ones going in the show building itself.

[rytheguy]

Judging from recent photos of holes being cut into the rockwork, I'm assuming new animatronic fish/Nemo characters will be in the lagoon in addition to the ones going in the show building itself.
I hope so. it'll make the currently dismal looking lagoon so much nicer to the eye for all of us that still look at it behind those walls. lol

[icarian]

eh... disney wants you to look behind those walls... to keep all of us on the fan boards salivating over this new attraction.... thats why they didnt wall-in the monorail track.

CONSPIRACY!

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Are you talking about the part of the monorail that goes over the lagoon in a right turn? It'd be fairly impossible to wall that in & prevent view from the monorail trains.

-- Peoplemover "It's not like the thing is much to look at" Matt

[disney-fan-forever]

I think it would be great if they had a themed Finding Nemo sub ride. I was alway's a big fan of the Pixar movies (Finding Nemo is the best), and I hope they do that!

[Disneyland_Wolf]

The old Submarine Voyage was good and is one of the classics. I miss that old ride, underwater it looks realistic and like a ocean. but the animatronics were not to good. But I wish they will add real crabs and fishes inside. But they cannot because they can't live there.

Let's hope this new Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage will bring back the old memories.

[DisneyResurrection]

How about bass fishing? :icon_lol:

[DisneyMouse25]

Yes I hope that the new submarine ride will be as fun as the old submarine ride. Granted, the old ride was somewhat dated, but to me it was a great ride, which I have missed for many years. Heres to whatever Disney Imagineers put in that Lagoon!

[Stephen]

OK, this is just a stupid idea which would defenatly cause some major damage to the lagoon, but why don't they just fill it up and run it as it is? It would be a great "work in progress" ride! :D. lol J/K

[JohnnyB80]

I disagree in making it based on Finding Nemo. Not every attraction has to be based on a movie. Rumor has it that it was closed years ago to be given an Atlantis overlay, but because the movie did so poorly at the box office, why make a ride of it? Even when it closed it wasn't based on 20K Leagues.

It seems that WDI has lost touch with a lot of their creativity and rely too heavily on a box office hit to bring in new rides (example: Monster's Inc. dark ride).

They should come up with a great original submarine concept and throw in subtle tributes to Nemo just to keep the little kiddies entertained. Let's not forget that the ride isn't built in Fantasyland, but rather is built in Tomorrowland and thus should be based on the exploration of [liquid] space.

[Stephen]

Yeah, I don't like it too, but as far as we know, it's supposed to be a scientific voyage to the Australian Current, and the Nemo chars just pop in.

[Stephen]

How about a 20,000 leagues under the sea attraction? We'd just plaster a "Natilus" body over the current subs and redecorate inside! Add and delete a bunch of scenery (animatronics) and viola! 20,000 Leagues under the Sea!

[lablkilz699]

How about bass fishing? :icon_lol:


i think they used to have trout fishing in the rivers of america. but yeah, a bass pond and trout in the river would be cool haha.

[hockeyman]

Ok I was in discussion with an upper management at DL and we spoke on the sub lagon and its fate, the rummor has it that WED is not sure what to make of it yet and this was on friday of June. The lagon was to become a a finding nemo ride / Captian Nemo and now Unsure what to do with the subs. The only thing they where sure on was that the subs had to come back.. so what are your thoughts?


I have heard the same from disney fire fighters who have said that the lagoon might not even be a finding nemo sub ride. But indeed they are pondering on the thought of finding nemo. Also in times to come they are going to be putting up barricades on the monorail track going through the lagoon area so guests cant track progress.

[GreenLantern13]

Barricades are pointless. people will find the cracks and get pictures. they might as well just put a tent over the area so no one can see anything(if they wanted to, this is the route they'd probably take).

[DaddyB]

Frankly, I'm skeptical of both MisterDooDah's and Hockeyman's posts. I will only believe it when I see it, or a reputable source that has at least a decent track record reports it. Even then I will be very, very surprised...


Like that person who swore up and down to us on the old boards that Disney was going to paint brown stripes on the exterior of Space Mountain and was "in the know" because he worked at the park.


Just because you work at the park doesn't make you "in the know", and that the person you talked to on your break is "in the know" (or being truthful) either. Just because the person isn't in costume doesn't make them "upper management". And many, many times castmembers just say any old thing to see what kind of response they will get from you. The more gullible you look, the more outrageous the lie will be. What the heck do Firefighters know about what the imagineers are doing, or planning to do, or have/haven't been approved to do at the park? It's just as likely the guy pushing a broom and wiping up child vomit off the dock in Frontierland will know something.


There's just no way to put up barricades along the monorail tracks. What are they supposed to attach it to? The cost would be prohibitive. It would be like putting up barricades as high as the AstroOrbitor when Buzz was being built. Many "spy shots" of the facade of the building were taken from that ride (I know, I was the first to think of it and Al Lutz posted the shots on MiceAge) The sub lagoon is about 1/4 of the show. They're really not that concerned about us seeing what they're doing.

[lablkilz699]

Frankly, I'm skeptical of both MisterDooDah's and Hockeyman's posts. I will only believe it when I see it, or a reputable source that has at least a decent track record reports it. Even then I will be very, very surprised...


Like that person who swore up and down to us on the old boards that Disney was going to paint brown stripes on the exterior of Space Mountain and was "in the know" because he worked at the park.


Just because you work at the park doesn't make you "in the know", and that the person you talked to on your break is "in the know" (or being truthful) either. Just because the person isn't in costume doesn't make them "upper management". And many, many times castmembers just say any old thing to see what kind of response they will get from you. The more gullible you look, the more outrageous the lie will be. What the heck do Firefighters know about what the imagineers are doing, or planning to do, or have/haven't been approved to do at the park? It's just as likely the guy pushing a broom and wiping up child vomit off the dock in Frontierland will know something.


There's just no way to put up barricades along the monorail tracks. What are they supposed to attach it to? The cost would be prohibitive. It would be like putting up barricades as high as the AstroOrbitor when Buzz was being built. Many "spy shots" of the facade of the building were taken from that ride (I know, I was the first to think of it and Al Lutz posted the shots on MiceAge) The sub lagoon is about 1/4 of the show. They're really not that concerned about us seeing what they're doing.


i agree. one idea....they could pretty easily just like....have a series of "L" shaped bars coming out from underneath the track where the monrail dosent touch and have them holding up tarp type material or boards or whatever and that could theoretically work....

maybe i will draw a picture later and post it but tell me if you understand what im saying first....

[PeoplemoverMatt]

We also know that the Nemo project was approved by TDA or whoever approves those things. :smile: Nemo also hasn't been officialy announced yet, so I'm not all that surprised that a Disney "upper managment" worded that the way he did. Judging by the past, Nemo's coming, you can bet on it

A thought, perhaps we should make it a requirement to have a source when posting a "new" rumor sort of like citing a source in a research paper? Certainly would make you a more refutable source, and would clean out all those half-brained I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY'RE ADDING A LOOP TO SPACE MOUNTAIN!!! rumors. :icon_roll

-- Peoplemover "Still waiting for the Hyper-Giga 4D wooden suspended looping rapids ride :tongue: " Matt

[hockeyman]

some of the officials in the disney fire department also told me that disney is not sure what kind of ride they are going to make out of the lagoon area. When they had the subs in the dry dock area they where just testing to see if the subs where still going to hold water. One sub actually failed the test. The seawolf was actually leaking water after many years of not being serviced. Also I have been told they are going to be putting up barricades along the monorail track to prevent guests from seeing the progress being made in the lagoon. this is just what i have been told from people in the inside.

[Stephen]

Well, we'll see next photo update.

[rytheguy]

I don't care what they are doing in the lagoon. I just want my subs back in any form!!

[DaddyB]

some of the officials in the disney fire department also told me that disney is not sure what kind of ride they are going to make out of the lagoon area. When they had the subs in the dry dock area they where just testing to see if the subs where still going to hold water. One sub actually failed the test. The seawolf was actually leaking water after many years of not being serviced. Also I have been told they are going to be putting up barricades along the monorail track to prevent guests from seeing the progress being made in the lagoon. this is just what i have been told from people in the inside.Disney already knew going into this refurb that ALL of the subs were leaking water to some degree. That's been reported on before. One of the reasons they closed the ride was that the subs were beginning to leak water back when they closed the ride in the late 90's, and they (Pressler) didn't want to spend the money to fix the problem. So the subs certainly weren't going to get any better with just sitting there in the dry docs (and in some cases, just sitting in the water!) for the last 5-7 years. Disney knew going in that the subs were going to have to be extensively repaired if not outright replaced, which was the main reason that the repair bill first came in at $20 million when Matt Ouimet asked to know how much it would cost just to get the things running again just like 1997 (without the Nemo overlay). Once he heard that number, he reportedly asked the imagineers to come up with a number with the ride re-imagineered (figuring correctly that if it cost $20 million dollars to just 'fix' the dang thing, they might as well budget for a completely re-imagined ride).

You've already said that you were told that they are going to put up barricades along the monorail track... and frankly I still don't believe it will happen. I've taken pictures of the sub lagoon from the Matterhorn, from Innoventions and from Space Mountain... There's just no way to shield it enough, so it's not worth the expense.

[nileprincess]

I agree that it would just be silly to try to barricade all potential viewing spots. It would make much more sense to simply cover the work in the actual lagoon area, using tarps or tents or some such. Frankly, I don't think they'd bother barricading until something goes in that they wouldn't want Joe Public to see...we can't learn much from the construction going on now!

[mrdo]

Check this out and use your imagination. Take out the subs and build a new roller coaster type ride there. Of course the coaster cars would resemble the old subs and you would sit ala Matterhorn style. You could either start out of water or under,but it would have to go thru the lagoon and caves. Put a clear tube under the lagoon so the coaster could go thru it. Maybe the coaster would slow down to go thru the lagoon so the riders could view whatever was put under the water. Its just a thought. I would like to see a Black Hole or TRON ride myself.

[Stephen]

:O! How dare you say such a fate to my favorite ride! the Subs and me is like the PeopleMover and Matt!

hey, that's a good idea, Submarine Voyage Stephen

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Eh, they already basically did that to my Peoplemover :frown:

-- Peoplemover ":eek: Do I have a reputation here now? :tongue: " Matt

[Stephen]

Poor subs. Makes me cry. Come on! I've only rode it once! You should have givin me a chance... chance... :frown:



















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I know! I can... nah

Say.. how do I change my display name?

[Legend_S]

Well, i got an idea, but i think ppl would love it either way.... or not. Well i would love to see them, if they can, put in Mission Space in that whole area, seems big enough i think, they can even try out Living Sea in there if they wanted, personally i would love either one, and of course a part of me would love to see the subs come back :smile: .

[Chris]

Say.. how do I change my display name?


If you want to change your name you need to contact an Admin. They will erase your previous account and you can sign up for a new one.

[Retired Sub Driver]

As a RETIRED SUB DRIVER, I think it would be GREAT to bring back the Submarine Voyage. . . And bring them back to their nostalgic gray paint color.

If, they brought them back, I would ride them, instead of gazing over the emptiness of liquid space.

[Stephen]

Well, the grey subs don't fit anymore, because, well the Cold War is over. So yellow fits them as they are a "scientific" fleet of submarines.

[prince_peter pan]

I have heard the same from disney fire fighters who have said that the lagoon might not even be a finding nemo sub ride. But indeed they are pondering on the thought of finding nemo. Also in times to come they are going to be putting up barricades on the monorail track going through the lagoon area so guests cant track progress.


from when i was in DL in early June of 2005 when i went on the monorail i saw over the walls and there was nothing but like wooden statues and some were carved finding nemo characters ya never no with disney i am looking forward to the ride i will miss the submarines but o well

[ob12]

JUST BRING THE SUBS BACK PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Disneyland_Wolf]

I LOVE THAT RIDE WHEN I WAS A KID AND I STILL LOVE IT. I WANT THE SUBS BACK!!!! Good thing I downloaded the old Submarine Voyage with audio enhancements, so i can always see it in my computer though. I still remember the last time i rode it.

[prince_peter pan]

o sweeeet i miss the ride as well how do you get that cus i tried to git it off this and didnt work so if you have a different method plz e-mail me

[AlxVision360]

Here are the latest pics of the sub lagoon by David Michael (Darkbeer):

http://darkbeer.smugmug.com/gallery/650028/7/27852100

It's very exciting to see all the work that is going on. Somewhere it was also mentioned that the new sub attraction would be announced some time this weekend along with the grand re-opening of Space Mtn. Can't wait to hear what they have to say about the new ride!

[GreenLantern13]

Lagoon 1955 (http://www.apepenpublishing.com/images/Tomorrowland-construction.jpg)

It's amazing how far that section of Tomorrowland has come in 50 years ;)

[Stephen]

So when is Disney going to make the announcement for the new attraction?

(Attraction. I just love how cast members say 'attraction' instead of 'rides' or 'shows')

[disneylandkid]

the walls around the lagoon now say "Finding Nemo: submarine voyage resurfacing 2007":icon_excl

[Disneyland_Wolf]

We will have to wait for it 2 years. 2007!

[Executioner]

Yeah... But it will be oh so sweet when it opens.

[Stephen]

Yeah. But I miss the old one... what might happen is it starts out exactly like the old one but turns Pixar!

[Executioner]

Because of the style of ride it is, and because the load/unload time is long, they really have to make it a good ride with a good story behind it. If it fails to be a good ride, that would be a huge waste of money and even more money to change it again. It is no PPM/Rocket Rods to nothing kinda change. Even though it is having a Pixar theme, which I am tired of them making rides off of movies, I do have faith they will make something worthwhile to want to go back and ride again. Only because of the scale of the project.

[Disneyfan#1]

I Can't Wait For The Finding Nemo Ride!!!!!!!

[DisneyResurrection]

But it's not a rumour anymore...

[Chris]

But it's not a rumour anymore...

Ah, but all the speculation as to what the attraction is going to have certainly is!

[DisneyResurrection]

And we're off! :icon_lol:

[memecat]

I think it would be kind of neat if they brought the old subs back, but added a section that features Nemo.

Yes, I would also really love if the got the old sub ride back. I know they are working on making it nemo-fied, but its not going to be the same.

[Stephen]

I just thought... If Spongebob (you've herd of him, right?!) was owned by Disney, instead of Paremount, the Sub ride could be a Spongebob ride, and to keep the theme of Tomorrowland, it would start out to be a scientific voyage with Jacques Cousteau and you end up in BikiniBottom, the city Spongebob lives in, and stuff like that. Because it's a common joke on the show that he starts out narrating it... and yeah.

[AirForceGoofy]

I just thought... If Spongebob (you've herd of him, right?!) was owned by Disney, instead of Paremount, the Sub ride could be a Spongebob ride, and to keep the theme of Tomorrowland, it would start out to be a scientific voyage with Jacques Cousteau and you end up in BikiniBottom, the city Spongebob lives in, and stuff like that. Because it's a common joke on the show that he starts out narrating it... and yeah.
I agree with Stephen, forget Nemo and bring on SpongeBob...but really...<chant with me> old subs old subs old subs

[memecat]

I agree with Stephen, ***** Nemo and bring on SpongeBob...but really...<chant with me> old subs old subs old subs

I loved the old subs. They were great! I know it was really fake, but that was all the fun. They are going to make it all cool and new, I feel like I'm going to get very sad when I get to ride it again.

[AirForceGoofy]

It's alright I have the subs spiel on CD so I can just play it while I am swimming in my pool ;)

[memecat]

It's alright I have the subs spiel on CD so I can just play it while I am swimming in my pool ;)


Oh, thats SO COOL! I don't know where to start. First, you have the subs on CD!!!! And you have a POOL!!!!! That also is SO COOL! I'm sorry, its just really hot where I am right now, and I wish I had a pool. : )

[AirForceGoofy]

Oh, thats SO COOL! I don't know where to start. First, you have the subs on CD!!!! And you have a POOL!!!!! That also is SO COOL! I'm sorry, its just really hot where I am right now, and I wish I had a pool. : )
Hot!? It's 126 where I am right now...

[memecat]

Hot!? It's 126 where I am right now...

OUCH!!!! POOR POOR YOU! It's like 90 here. Wow, again, poor poor you.

[AirForceGoofy]

OUCH!!!! POOR POOR YOU! It's like 90 here. Wow, again, poor poor you.
Part of being in Iraq

[memecat]

Part of being in Iraq

You are in Iraq? Wow!

[Stephen]

COOL... but how do you play it underwater? and do you have a recreation of the lagoon and the show building? that would be tight!

[protostars]

the have repainted the fences around the subs. this was taken friday july 15th. I had to lighten the photo for clarity. I guess we have quite a wait for the subs.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Nemo has officialy taken over the Submarine Voyage! If you read the now closed announcement thread in DL forum then you know that the construction was has been totally repainted with Nemo characters and a logo for...*drum roll* ... The Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage opening Spring 2007! Subs fans rejoice! Your attraction is coming back this time about 20 months from now! :biggrin: Click the thumbnails for some pictures!


-- Peoplemover "If the Subs can come back, then the Peoplemover certainly can as well! :biggrin: " Matt

[Stephen]

*throws up*....

I'm sorry... I'm just so sick of Disney having movies and stuff take over classic attractions.

[rytheguy]

What do you think about the underwater CGI projection systems they plan on using in th enew attraction? I think it's kind of kool, it will almost be as if the real characters are in the lagoon with you since the originals were computer animated. I am hesitant about it though. Hopefully they know what their doing as much as we think they do.

[Disneyland_Wolf]

Instead of Finding Nemo, i rather suggest them to make the old Submarine Voyage back with new subs, but each of them is painted yellow and gray. New effects, animatronic fishes or real fishes. Some realistic moving crabs and lobsters. Inside the show building will have remodeled and repainted ruins of atlantis and scary looking giant sea serpent.

Finding Nemo was made by pixar and it doesn't do anything with Tomorromland and future stuff.

o well, it is already made into production and coming back to Tomorromland. Let's hope this new submarine voyage will bring back our old memories.

[memecat]

Instead of Finding Nemo, i rather suggest them to make the old Submarine Voyage back with new subs, but each of them is painted yellow and gray. New effects, animatronic fishes or real fishes. Some realistic moving crabs and lobsters. Inside the show building will have remodeled and repainted ruins of atlantis and scary looking giant sea serpent.

Finding Nemo was made by pixar and it doesn't do anything with Tomorromland and future stuff.

o well, it is already made into production and coming back to Tomorromland. Let's hope this new submarine voyage will bring back our old memories.

I think that if there was real fish, they would get run over by the subs or get into all the animatronic stuff. Poor dead fish...

[Mr Incredible]

I still don't understand why they're putting a Finding Nemo ride in Tomorrowland, or is this part of expanding Fantasyland into the lagoon area.

[Stephen]

They can't expand Fantasyland further into Tomorrowland... they already did that with the Matterhorn... plus the station for the subs is in the Tomorrowland area.

[Legend_S]

Well the subs are back, im very happy for that XD, it just has a theme thats better reconized by many little kids. Now if the pplmover comes back, then theres hope for this somewhat disappointing world of tomorrow.

[Stephen]

Yup... now it's more like "jules-vern land". I think the Astro orbiter looks cool, but more of like a statue, not like a ride. The rocket jets should go up on the top of the ppm station, and the astro orbiter should keep spinning its planets in the front of tomorrowland, but I do think I could stand the big rocks being blown up. :D that would be awesome!

[Sheriff_Woody]

I personally think that the Finding Nemo Attraction in the lagoon area is a little too babyish for tomorrowland-- just an opinion :biggrin:

[Sheriff_Woody]

Instead of Finding Nemo, i rather suggest them to make the old Submarine Voyage back with new subs, but each of them is painted yellow and gray. New effects, animatronic fishes or real fishes. Some realistic moving crabs and lobsters. Inside the show building will have remodeled and repainted ruins of atlantis and scary looking giant sea serpent.

Finding Nemo was made by pixar and it doesn't do anything with Tomorromland and future stuff.

o well, it is already made into production and coming back to Tomorromland. Let's hope this new submarine voyage will bring back our old memories.

i highly agree with you

[ClassicDisney]

Will the new submarine ride have air conditioning?!?!? It would be nice...

[Mikokat]

I think that the old subs are not going to make an appearance because they have been sitting in the cave for seven straight years without maintenence. They would probably cost A LOT to repair and it would probably be cheaper to manufacture new subs.I think it would be kind of neat if they brought the old subs back, but added a section that features Nemo.

[ClassicDisney]

Question: What is the point in bringing back the OLD SUBS but then putting something random in there like Finding Nemo? Kind of oxy moronic ....

[Stephen]

The subs didn't have AC?

[Legend_S]

I recall them having some sorta air system in there, there was like these vents right at the bottom of the windows that blowed air, it was cold air, so yeah, I would think it would have AC.

[Stephen]

They blew air from under the windows to keep people from getting queasy.

Say, when's DaddyB's next photo update? I want to see the progress of the Submarine Lagoon.

[Retired Sub Driver]

the subs are deisel motors... propellor driven i think, but i could be wrong on that.

RIGHT YOU ARE!! AND THEY ARE BOTH PROPELLOR DRIVER AND PART ELECTRIC DRIVEN... THINK OF THEM AS A UNDER WATER MONORAIL.

[Legend_S]

Wow, thats interesting ::Star flies by:: "The more you know.":icon_lol: When I was a kid, we always ride the Subs and I would always poke those vents not knowing what they were, but im sure the new subs will have some sorta "cool" gadget so to speak lol, cant wait to see what improvements they make on the subs.

[Retired Sub Driver]

i think they used to have trout fishing in the rivers of america. but yeah, a bass pond and trout in the river would be cool haha.

Fishing use to be allowed when DISNEYLAND first opened on Tom Sawer Island, but the guests got tired of carring their prize catch around... so, the dead smelly fish would be scattered all over the park. PEUW!! so, Walt stopped the fishing. So, if I were you, I would'nt get my hopes up.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Just wanted to point out that some more Subs construction wall photos can be viewed in my 7/15 album found here: http://photobucket.com/albums/a244/PeoplemoverMatt/ Enjoy! :cool:

-- Peoplemover "Guests are friends, not food! - chumming 2007! :smile: " Matt

[Stephen]

YES! WAHOO! I'm thrilled it's actually coming back!!!!!!

(bty, Matt, I think the picture in your signature is not working.

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Stephen I think it is cool...Anyways stick to the topic...Along while back in like March I saw on a site they were bringing them back but I didn't know when they were..The site also said said what it would be....And had a picture of the animatronic Crush that would be in the ride!!!

[kates4u]

Stephen I think it is cool...Anyways stick to the topic...Along while back in like March I saw on a site they were bringing them back but I didn't know when they were..The site also said said what it would be....And had a picture of the animatronic Crush that would be in the ride!!!
You don't remember what site that was? I'd love to see it...

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Sorry if I see it again ill e-mail it to you or something they might have taken it out but ill look..BTW the Crush looked exactly like the real Crush!!!!

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Stephen I think it is cool...Anyways stick to the topic...Along while back in like March I saw on a site they were bringing them back but I didn't know when they were..The site also said said what it would be....And had a picture of the animatronic Crush that would be in the ride!!!

Are you talking about this pic that DisneylandFan had as his avatar for a while?
http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/image.php?u=1665&dateline=1119309150

-- Peoplemover "That's a big clownfish :icon_shoc " Matt

[Stephen]

Matt, if you've ever seen Finding Nemo, you'd know that Crush is a "toattly wicked awesome" turtle.

BTW, i'd love to see this animatronic... and I wish I could look at everything about the mechanics of the old animatronics that were sold in an auction. The sea monster, fignting crabs, and the octpus and the shark too!--I'm such a nerd.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ You don't have to watch Nemo, just go over to Animation Building he'll remind you just about every other sentence that both you & he so totally rock! Dude! Maybe he'll take a backseat to Nemo & Dory in the Sub Voyage since he's got his own show across the Esplanade, but I doubt it, dude.

-- Peoplemover "I seriously felt my IQ dropping in that show" Matt

[Stephen]

I have toattly seriously never seen that show, dude.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Dude it's like Small World, only worse dude. @ Turtle Talk, dude, not only do you hear the same word over & over again, dude, but dude! Crush can actually talk back to you dude! Dude, doesn't that so totally rock, dude? :confused:

-- Peoplemover "If anyone thinks I'm overdoing it here, this is not an exaggeration. Crush is actually like this, dude" Matt

[Executioner]

That can seriously get annoying fast dude! How long does this show last? I thought that whole surfer trendy dude talk was gone and over with. Dude, like leave it to Disney to try and bring it back. Whoa, I think I am going to not watch this show dude.

[Stephen]

Dude Dude Dude! We're DUDE falling DUDE off DUDE topic! DUDE!

Back to the DUDE (punches the word 'dude') Submarines:

trivia question: what are the original names of the Submarines? before they were painted Yellow and renamed. (Please don't look it up.)

[GreenLantern13]

Squeeky, Leaky, and Bob

[DisneyResurrection]

Dude Dude Dude! We're DUDE falling DUDE off DUDE topic! DUDE!

Back to the DUDE (punches the word 'dude') Submarines:

That's funny! :icon_lol:

[Stephen]

Thanks. I was just making it up.

Squeaky, Leaky, and Bob? Didn't they prevent Disneyland being attacked by Martians by flying one of the submarines?

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Matt up there where you said that fish thing...Thats not in its Crush not Nemo dude think i couldnt get the dude crush and nemo confused dude seriously dude....

[vwbug1998]

Do you think the subs will be painted for Nemo?

I could see them being painted like fish,
Make one Nemo, another Doria, and so on. what do you think?

[SubmarinemanKevin]

du du du du du du DUH XD! haha just kidding that'd be cool id get in bruces's hopefully though...

[superman436]

I don't think Disney would ever paint them like characters from Nemo... how sick is that... geting inside one of the chacters!?!? Pretty sure they will leave them as subs and you will watch the adventure from within... hense the name "Finding Nemo, SUBMARINE adventure"

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Yah agreed there will be Nemo people not frikin subs..

[GreenLantern13]

Well theoretically a nemo ride could have taken place on the back of a sting ray but that's not happening they're using the subs.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

We do have a thread about the future of the Subs over in the Rumor Mill. :smile:

-- Peoplemover "I'm negative today..." Matt

[linklewtt]

k guys the new sub ride is gonna feature finding nemo. the fences up certainly suggest that, so i think we can bank on nemo coming. i heard that an all new soundtrack is gonna be made for the ride including the voices of all of nemo's friends...also the ride is supposed to be given new effects to make it look nothing like it was in its early days. so i adise downloading both the movie and the soundtrack of the submarine voyage as we know it used to be. they're both on this site (thank heavens) and u should definitely put it in your music library cuz now it's officially vintage and will never grace the Tomorrowland Lagoon ever again :icon_cry:

[linklewtt]

it should be "i advise you" lol thanks

[Legend_S]

^^ Theres an edit button you know.


Either way, I just really wonder what there going to come up with with the new sound and all that, but nontheless, im sure it'll be pretty good, hope they dont Nemo it up to the extreme.

[DLRgoer]

So as I was asking before the board was updated, I was wondering if anyone knew what powered the subs on their little underwater track? Was there a motor on a little tire, or was it propelled by a turbine, and the track was just there to guide it? Thanks, Stephen

I am 208% sure that the subs were not powered by the track. I have been on either a old sub that was taken out and sold or an exact replica of the ones Disney made around multiple coves on Santa Catalina Island, which is right off the coast from Long Beach.

The sub was also called the Nautilus, and it is now used as tours to see the wildlife in the Pacific Ocean near Avalon and Catalina. All the decorations are exactly the same and so on.

[SubmarinemanKevin]

hmmmm I suppose there are tracks?

[PeoplemoverMatt]

There are tracks, check the pictures from Daddyb's updates. You can see clearly the tracks that are now being worked on/replaced. Every water ride has tracks of some form, even Splash Mountain, the Mark Twain & Columbia. The only ones that I know of that don't are any water park tobaggen rides (they technically do if you count what you're sliding down) & the DLR Canoes.

-- Peoplemover "I wish I could go to Price is Right tomorrow, lousy job..." Matt

[SubmarinemanKevin]

no not at DL Matt another thing...

[111702]

I have NOT read this entire thread (too long, no time), so I don't know if someone already posted something like this.:icon_excl

I was wondering about the old part with the giant squid (whch scared me a LOT!). What if, since it was dark on that part, they replace it with the NEW dark part with the angler fish from the movie! They could use baically the same everything in the cave, just with an angler fish, and maybe Marlin and Dory! Just a thought!:wink:

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Good idea I haven't read the entire thread either..Possibly they might do that..That sounds really cool..

[dlandman56]

I noticed in the construction photos their is a vertical green/blue tube between the track and shore at the beginning of the ride. Is this where the buoy with the seagulls on it as seen in the renderings will be located?

[Elvis is Alive]

They can't expand Fantasyland further into Tomorrowland... they already did that with the Matterhorn... plus the station for the subs is in the Tomorrowland area.

true, but subs are not a thing of tomorrw, either. subs are widely used by militaries all over the globe. so the only way i see it is that they are expanding fantasyland

[PeoplemoverMatt]

If Nemo & the gang have some sort of futuristic adventure, then there ya go.

-- Peoplemover "But that would be something original..." Matt

[Disneytwins]

I noticed in the construction photos their is a vertical green/blue tube between the track and shore at the beginning of the ride. Is this where the buoy with the seagulls on it as seen in the renderings will be located?

No I heard it was for the Filtration System

[Stephen]

you know what, Elvis? (lol) The subs were futuristic back then because they were supposed to be nuclear submarines, which were new at the time. Now they're not but are still a classic attraction and deserves a better name in Tomorrowland. And also, they can't turn that into a Fantasyland attraction because the station/dock is in the Tomorrowland area and can't be moved, and there is no signs of being moved.

[Stephen]

If Nemo & the gang have some sort of futuristic adventure, then there ya go.

-- Peoplemover "But that would be something original..." Matt

Yeah... Captian nEmO. (Class 1 pun!)

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Right.... About that?

[camaro87488]

you know what, Elvis? (lol) The subs were futuristic back then because they were supposed to be nuclear submarines, which were new at the time. Now they're not but are still a classic attraction and deserves a better name in Tomorrowland. And also, they can't turn that into a Fantasyland attraction because the station/dock is in the Tomorrowland area and can't be moved, and there is no signs of being moved.

Submarines can still be futuristic I mean Disneyland is one of the few places you can get something even close to a submarine ride.

[Disneyland_Wolf]

Instead of Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage, they should add new effects, very hi-tech AA sea creatures and retheme it and called it "The Submarine Voyage: Resurfaced."

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Submarines can still be futuristic I mean Disneyland is one of the few places you can get something even close to a submarine ride.

That's a good point. Remember on the ride we're given a tour on a submarine beneath the North Pole. That wouldn't exactly happen in the present day.

-- Peoplemover "Mm-Mermaids? I don't believe it. Mr. Baxter, check the air pressure!" Matt

[Stephen]

"Three-quarts, Sir!" ^_^ memories...

[Stephen]

Ive been on an actual Submarine that toured ship and plane wrecks from WWII in Hawaii... :) loved it...

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Cool..... :icon_lol:

[dlandman56]

There are tracks, check the pictures from Daddyb's updates. You can see clearly the tracks that are now being worked on/replaced. Every water ride has tracks of some form, even Splash Mountain, the Mark Twain & Columbia. The only ones that I know of that don't are any water park tobaggen rides (they technically do if you count what you're sliding down) & the DLR Canoes.

-- Peoplemover "I wish I could go to Price is Right tomorrow, lousy job..." Matt

Don't forget the rafts to Tom Sawyer's Island.

[Stephen]

I am 208% sure that the subs were not powered by the track. I have been on either a old sub that was taken out and sold or an exact replica of the ones Disney made around multiple coves on Santa Catalina Island, which is right off the coast from Long Beach.

The sub was also called the Nautilus, and it is now used as tours to see the wildlife in the Pacific Ocean near Avalon and Catalina. All the decorations are exactly the same and so on.

This is a DISNEYLAND board, not WDW... we're talking about the Nuclear Submarines in tomorrowland... those were not sold... they're still intact. But there was one called the Nautilus, because it was supposed to be a ride based on the first nuclear submarine which was called the Nautilus.

[lkohawaii]

sorry, if this is the wrong place to post this question..I'm new here. Just wanted to know does anyone know when this submarine ride is supposed to open? I'm trying to plan a trip around this ride. Fond memories of riding it as a child.

[Disneyland_Wolf]

The 'Finding Nemo' Submarine Voyage is going to reopen on Spring 2007. Be patient and wait for it. Probably somewhere in March or May.

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Yeah.... :frown:

[GreenLantern13]

Space Mountain opened a few months early though so you never know =D But that's the schedule for now.

[Stephen]

sorry, if this is the wrong place to post this question..I'm new here. Just wanted to know does anyone know when this submarine ride is supposed to open? I'm trying to plan a trip around this ride. Fond memories of riding it as a child.
BELEVE ME.. it will not bring back memoies. it will be NO WERE NEAR THE SAME. but it'll be cool to see it again.

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Yeah...Why are some Disney people so uh kinda dumbish...It just wont be the same...And it says it open Spring of '07

[CLASSIC HM]

I really miss the subs. They were one of my favorite rides. I'm glad they're back. I wish the same could be said to such classics as "Skyway", "Peoplemover", "America Sings", and the "Country Bear Jamboree".

[XSubCaptain]

So as I was asking before the board was updated, I was wondering if anyone knew what powered the subs on their little underwater track? Was there a motor on a little tire, or was it propelled by a turbine, and the track was just there to guide it? Thanks, Stephen
Well, I know this is a late response but this is how the subs were powered as I am Disneyland retired Navy (aka Subdriver). The subs were powered by diesel engine and belive me it was tough if you got the rear hatch duty standing by the exaust. An actual propeller made the subs move and the track was just a guide, The only way to stop was throw the sub in reverse, so it made keeping up with the spiel a real challenge as the sub captain only had a joy stick with forward and reverse.

People always ask me what it looked like in the caverns. Ugly and kinda spooky. The subs had just a few inches of clearance it was very low. The caverns looked like a parking garage that was flooded. Huge concrete supports going into the water concrete ceiling and lots of waterwith multil colored lights all aimed at the water.

The track followed the same shape as the lagoon track like a figure eight that almost crosses in the center but not quite (that narrow part was the enterance into the caverns.

Okay last thing, each sub had two horizontal wheels sticking off the bottom of the sub one in back and one in front. The track was like a U and the wheels bobbed between the two sides, so the sub could go up and down and slight side to side giving the feeling of floating because you actually were.

The end!

[Executioner]

Wow! Thanks for sharing. I got a creepy visual thinking about the show building you described. That would be odd as you are the only one seeing above the water.

[GreenLantern13]

You'd see the catwalks and the narrow cave and the off duty CMs making faces at you and doing naughty things as you go by ;)

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Uh...Lol I didnt read that long post lol..

[dlandman56]

Well, I know this is a late response but this is how the subs were powered as I am Disneyland retired Navy (aka Subdriver). The subs were powered by diesel engine and belive me it was tough if you got the rear hatch duty standing by the exaust. An actual propeller made the subs move and the track was just a guide, The only way to stop was throw the sub in reverse, so it made keeping up with the spiel a real challenge as the sub captain only had a joy stick with forward and reverse.

People always ask me what it looked like in the caverns. Ugly and kinda spooky. The subs had just a few inches of clearance it was very low. The caverns looked like a parking garage that was flooded. Huge concrete supports going into the water concrete ceiling and lots of waterwith multil colored lights all aimed at the water.

The track followed the same shape as the lagoon track like a figure eight that almost crosses in the center but not quite (that narrow part was the enterance into the caverns.

Okay last thing, each sub had two horizontal wheels sticking off the bottom of the sub one in back and one in front. The track was like a U and the wheels bobbed between the two sides, so the sub could go up and down and slight side to side giving the feeling of floating because you actually were.

The end!
Thanks for the great insight. I was thinking that I have never seen any good photos of the sub cavern under construction. I have seen may photos of the lagoon being built, but, not the cavern. Also, in the lagoon construction photos, it looked like there was a single rail (like a train rail) running down the middle of the cement track base. Does anyone know if this changed over the years?

[ryguy222]

I never noticed that can you post an imange and highlight it or somthing

[rytheguy]

off topic but I noticed that our names are strikingly similar ryguy... hmmm

lol jk. Thay are similar though

[ryguy222]

off topic but I noticed that our names are strikingly similar ryguy... hmmm

lol jk. Thay are similar though
we both live in arizona lol!
i used it cause i use it for my email xbox live vmk prettymuch everything

[Stephen]

Uh...Lol I didnt read that long post lol..


Then you're obviously not as much as a sub fan as I am!!

[CLASSIC HM]

I miss the "Submarine Voyage". But at least I have the soundtrack from what was "Disneyland Forever" and I have the version released from the 6 CD set.

[Stephen]

Yeah the soundtrack thing is awesome--I have it on my iPod.

[disneyson]

O.K.,:This is my first official post!! And here's some info:Finding Nemo Subs will have most of the same props of the originanal ride but will be tied in with Nemo,so many people will have their "old subs". An example is at the beginning,Nemo will say something like "Dad,are there such things as sea serpents?" and marlin will say "of course not,Nemo!" and things like that.Bruce is at the shark part,the angler fish in the abyss seen,and the tank gang at Atlantis(yeah,it's a stretch, but the tank gang wanted a similar home to the Atlantis themed-fish tank and the volcano of bubbles).Oh, and at the end they will have a "we found Nemo" party with all of the characters of the movie celebrating.It will be themed probably in tommoroland because the plot line will feature you looking for an volcano and you happen to run into the characters. Any questions?

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Yes, your source if you would. Also you mention the sea serpent at the beginning, while in the original Submarine Voyage, sea serpent was toward the end. Where's the giant squid & polar ice cap in this? If it's going to use many of the old props, why have we seen just about all of them removed?

Oh, since I'm here, in my next photo update which will be posted soon, you will see some damage to the Sub construction wall. :frown:

-- Peoplemover "I want to see the seagulls! MINE!" Matt

[disneyson]

Oh... sorry. I've herd there going to TAKE OUT the squid,the fighting crabs,and the squid and shark fighting each other.SORRY!(Ebay,anyone?) Oh, and my source was a website on google that I forgot...agin,SORRY!I think it was an story by someone who knew an immagineer and spilled her guts out on the subs...I think...oh well,... Oh! one last thing,some people will see nemo,and others will not during the ride because of the two rows so it's really 2 slightly different rides! And the crabs that are at the begining sort of will be replaced by the crabs at the end of the move,but in AA form!(oh,and SORRY... the joke about the sea serpent will be at the beginning but the the punchline is at the end:(Wow,I have to tell dad!) or:(Wow,I have to tell sandy plankton!).THE END!

[disneyson]

Hey...those aren't my smiles!! What gives!!!!!

[CLASSIC HM]

They probably took out everything to start from scratch. If they keep the subs in the yellow - orange color as they were up to 1998, then there's one homage already.

[SubmarinemanKevin]

I assume the Subs to be based on "Finding Nemo" movie as is the ride. They proboally will do that.. And I doubt they will bring any "old" items back on account the old ride is gone and proboally thrown away or getting bid of from Ebay.. It will probally be the Jellfyfish scene and the turtle one I imagine one of thouse will be in the knew ride.. Submarines R.I.P.:icon_cry:

[CLASSIC HM]

The Submarine Voyage was one of my favorites. It was sad to see it go. Then in 2000, when Disneyland Forever was around, I was fortunate to get the soundtrack burned. Then this year, I got another version from the 6-CD set.

By the way, who did the voice of the captain?

[SubmarinemanKevin]

I am not sure I heard the name I think his name is Captain something I am not sure.. I miss the Subs as well look at my name..

[111702]

I am not sure I heard the name I think his name is Captain something I am not sure.. I miss the Subs as well look at my name..

His name is CAPTAIN NEMO! Like Finding Nemo! Duh! (JK!:redface: )

[111702]

^But seriously, his name really IS Captain Nemo!^

[sp 4449]

I like that submarine voyage resurfaced idea but I'm just glad there coming back

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/sp2472/IMG_0622.jpg

[111702]

I like that submarine voyage resurfaced idea but I'm just glad there coming back

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/sp2472/IMG_0622.jpg

^ Is that a picture of the old subs or the new subs, because I forget if the old subs looked that shiny... ^

[k_peek_2000]

Maybe, Captain Nemo got lost. So you team up with the fish from finding nemo to find Captin Nemo. HEY! If it takes a month to redo The Haunted Mansion for the Haunted Mansion Christman. Why is it taking so long to do this? It shouldnt be any different, except underwater.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

It's taking so long because they're really building an entirely new attraction from the ground up. You can't just wave a magic wand over muiltiple years of inactivity and the subs sitting underwater. Also remember the Subs weren't exactly in the best of shape when they were finally closed for good. This isn't a simple overlay, this is the imagineering of a wholly new experience.

-- Peoplemover "Better that than a dinky Pooh-themed playground!" Matt

[sp 4449]

the sub in the photo is the 302 Neptune it was taken last November when they were testing for the new ride their will be no new subs they are going to use the 8 origanal subs ! thats cool ha a little old and a little new a little bit country and a little bit rock and roll I'm sorry I could not resist :biggrin:

[111702]

the sub in the photo is the 302 Neptune it was taken last November when they were testing for the new ride their will be no new subs they are going to use the 8 origanal subs ! thats cool ha a little old and a little new a little bit country and a little bit rock and roll I'm sorry I could not resist :biggrin:

Well if they ARE using the old subs (which is very possible if you look at concept sketches of the subs, which look exactly like the old ones), they should at least UPGRADE them! They could put more comfortable seats, more space, bigger windows, and put cool new technical stuff in them!

[sp 4449]

no no no not that any thing but that leave um alone course thats just me I like old school preserve disneyland history don't distroy it

[111702]

no no no not that any thing but that leave um alone course thats just me I like old school preserve disneyland history don't distroy it

Um...okay...I can barely understand what you just said. But I think I get it...


But still, ya, an upgrade would be good! Obviously, you don't want a COSMETIC upgrade, and I'm moderately okay with that because they look fine as they are. But what they NEED is a TECHNICAL upgrade so that they can run better, have cool new built-in effects, and have more capacity to fix the reason they were closed down in the first place (if you haven't figured it out by now, it's capacity:icon_roll ).

[sp 4449]

ya I read you however I don't see how they could make any more compacity without siverly modifying the subs also I would like to see them left with desil as a fuel source and not CNG when they tested CNG back before the ride closed the sub that had CNG was the least reliable in the fleet also the most important thig DO NOT CHANGE THE NAMES OF THE SUBS!!!

[Executioner]

.... also the most important thig DO NOT CHANGE THE NAMES OF THE SUBS!!!

I totally agree on that. I don't see why they would, but you never know. I hope they don't.

[sp 4449]

theirs been talk of a big suprise at the end of the new ride any bodey know what it is

[111702]

theirs been talk of a big suprise at the end of the new ride any bodey know what it is

Either it's a tribute to the old ride (like the sea serpent), or Nemo died...

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Yeah totally..

[ryguy222]

the thing on why the subs closed wasn't really capacity it was because they were old, they were leaking, and they wern't popular it wasn't because of capcity.

[111702]

the thing on why the subs closed wasn't really capacity it was because they were old, they were leaking, and they wern't popular it wasn't because of capcity.

They were LEAKING!?:eek:

They weren't POPULAR!?:eek:

..............................!?:eek:

[Ezra]

Last year they were testing new ride elements to see if they looked good. The new show pieces were contained in plexiglass boxes. This system of contained show scenes is going to be great because they can be created offsite and switched out on the fly. The show can be changed and improved often without lenghty rehabs.

[111702]

Last year they were testing new ride elements to see if they looked good. The new show pieces were contained in plexiglass boxes. This system of contained show scenes is going to be great because they can be created offsite and switched out on the fly. The show can be changed and improved often without lenghty rehabs.

But wouldn't it look weird to see all of the charachters not swimming around in the water, but contained in plexiglass boxes? It sounds FISHY to me! (Get it? Fishy?:old_wink: )

[disneyson]

bad pun.

[sp 4449]

well technicly the charictors them selves are not going to be phisicly in the boxs they will be made useing new progection technoligys so they look the way they did in the film

[111702]

well technicly the charictors them selves are not going to be phisicly in the boxs they will be made useing new progection technoligys so they look the way they did in the film

Sounds interesting...;)

Can someone PLEASE explain to me in DETAIL how this will happen!?:confused:

[Ezra]

They tested to see of you could tell that the plexiglass was there from inside the subs, and the suits who checked it out said that they couldn't so the whole project got the go-ahead. Thats why the testing was done before draining the lagoon. I saw a pic of one of the plexiglass boxes being lowered into the lagoon. I think it was on Mouse Planet... couldn't see anything but the top edge of the box though. :(

[Grimezy15]

does anyone know where i can find the layout of the ride, so i can try and make a rec in Rollercoaster tycoon 3? thanks

[CLASSIC HM]

I've got a question in regards to the Submarine Voyage. Who did the voice of the captain?

[rytheguy]

Sounds interesting...;)

Can someone PLEASE explain to me in DETAIL how this will happen!?:confused:
From what I understand there will be sheets or boxes made of plexiglass submerged into the water. Using a new underwater DLP(Digital Light Processing) projection system they will project the characters onto the plexiglass like a movie screen. Since the plexiglass is clear, and under water, which is also clear, the theory is that the plexiglass would be invisible and you owuld just see the projections.

[111702]

From what I understand there will be sheets or boxes made of plexiglass submerged into the water. Using a new underwater DLP(Digital Light Processing) projection system they will project the characters onto the plexiglass like a movie screen. Since the plexiglass is clear, and under water, which is also clear, the theory is that the plexiglass would be invisible and you owuld just see the projections.

OMG!:eek:

Sounds MEGA awesome! I cannot wait to see this in action! But WAIT!!!:eek:

If this is true, will Pixar be creating the projection footage for the ride? Even so, how will they create the HUGE masses of fish that swarm the coral reef!? One can only wonder...:confused:

[dctrdez]

Whoa...this is heavy...um, a couple things:

1. Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 has subs?!?! What else does it have?
2. Where are you guys getting this info? Sounds pretty sweet if that's what they're actually going to do...

They're baaaaaaaaack........the subs I mean...

[Executioner]

Whoa...this is heavy...um, a couple things:

1. Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 has subs?!?! What else does it have?
2. Where are you guys getting this info? Sounds pretty sweet if that's what they're actually going to do...

They're baaaaaaaaack........the subs I mean...

Well, not yet though. In 2007 they will. But yeah, they are back. It should be pretty interesting to see how it will be.

[The Not-Lit Meteor]

Wait I don't know if I'm understandting this correctly... There will plexiglass boxes in the lagoon for the projections? Wouldn't you see the boxes from outside of the lagoon?

[GRUMPYRULES]

The selected album does not exist!!!!

[Grimezy15]

Yes RCT3 does have subs, their like the yellow submarine

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Guess so..

[k_peek_2000]

ya rct3 does but they are really limited. it can only be 1 height underwater

[dctrdez]

^^^Well, it's not like the subs at Disneyland really submerge to any depth. They're really just glorified glass bottomed boats...

[Stephen]

Oh my gosh I can't wait. But the only problem is this: What will the water do to effect the light of the projections? It will seriously do some deterioriation to the projected image.

[k_peek_2000]

i heard that the new subs at disneyland will go underwater!

[rytheguy]

Oh my gosh I can't wait. But the only problem is this: What will the water do to effect the light of the projections? It will seriously do some deterioriation to the projected image.
I think that's why they are using boxes rather than just sheets of plexiglass. The projectors will probably be housed in the box, which is full of air, not water.

[CLASSIC HM]

I was talking to a cast member during my recent stay and was told that they weren't going to reuse the subs because of rules and regulations. And I noticed that there is some work going on in the cave.

[sp 4449]

from what I'v herd from several sorces and a monorail CM they are infact going to reuse the the subs because if they built new ones they would have to be built to new regulations set after the old subs were built but if they reuse the old ones they would not have to worry about it because the subs were built before the new regulations were set.

[CLASSIC HM]

It seems as though as castmembers are contradicting one another. I do hope they reuse the subs because they would be the biggest homage to the orginal attraction.

[Stephen]

I think that's why they are using boxes rather than just sheets of plexiglass. The projectors will probably be housed in the box, which is full of air, not water.

Well the projector is in the box, but the light coming out is not... unless the water is some how completely still, there's gonna be wavey lines in the image.

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Right..

[lablkilz699]

stephen...unless its being projected on the surface....there wont be i dont think....you cant see current or waves under water. Have you ever seen a flash light underwater...not "wavy".

[Matterhorn12]

When Are They Planning On Opening this attraction???

[RollingBoulder]

Spring 2007

[Stephen]

stephen...unless its being projected on the surface....there wont be i dont think....you cant see current or waves under water. Have you ever seen a flash light underwater...not "wavy".


Yeah I guess your right about that...

[HMHrox]

i dont know if this has already been covered, but do we know if they are running on gas or electricity?

[disneyguy]

i dont know if this has already been covered, but do we know if they are running on gas or electricity?
Not yet, we are asumming electrity, but it would be hard to do underwater.

[mrskellington]

Yea I mean after all, water conducts electicitiy! and what if they hide the sea monster in the backround somewhere on the ride?! That would be flippin' awesome!

[stitchhead28]

I'm not sure if this issue has been addressed yet, but what are the CMs going to do about guests in wheelchairs? It's kind of obvious that they wont be able to add an elevator or lift to the submarines for them, so are they going to construct an oversized sub for wheelchair bound guests or what?

[Chris]

The current plan is to have an interactive booth (not on a sub) where the person can experience the attraction. (probably a video of some kind, with some interactive elements). There is just no way to accomodate a wheelchair on the attraction.

[csmarc34]

It's just like the old ride, but with finding nemo characters

[dc8781]

just hope they hide the popsicle sticks better

[SubmarinemanKevin]

Okay?

[dc8781]

Okay?
this sticks that held up the fake fish:smile:

[mrskellington]

I wonder if the ride will have most of the old props in there.........hmm.......

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ All of the old props have been removed & most have been sold on Ebay.

-- PMM :cool:

[stitchhead28]

What I hope they keep is the old school double seater sub they had in the queue back in the 90's. That thing was awesome! If they don't, then we can only hope they have the seagulls constantly saying "Mine! Mine! Mine!" in the queue.

[sp 4449]

I hope the two seater is their too it should be after all its name was Nemo

[PeoplemoverMatt]

Well there will most likely have a booey in the lagoon w/ seagulls on it going "MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!" at passing Subs. :smile:

-- PMM :cool:

[sp 4449]

check this out over at miceage they say their going to build in a little island in the lagoon which will surve as a small show building check it out click the link and go to the article called "the party continues" and go to page five http://www.miceage.com

[tinkerbelle567]

I dont know. That ride has always scared me alot. But i loved it lol.

[threechrs4_sweetrevenge]

you know, if you check the weekly disneyland update from mouseplanet.com there's pictures of construction on the new ride...

[111702]

http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_03_06/tn_picture%206367%20(large).jpg (http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_03_06/picture%206367%20(large).html)



THE FIRST NEW PROPS ARE BEING ADDED!


http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_03_06/tn_picture%206369%20(large).jpg (http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_03_06/picture%206369%20(large).html)


ALONG WITH A NEW ISLAND SHOW BUILDING!



http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_03_06/tn_picture%206370%20(large).jpg (http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_03_06/picture%206370%20(large).html)


AND A NEW TRACK!

[disneyson]

OoOoOoOo...pretty and cool...OoOoOoOo...

[Disneytwins]

does anyone think that that that prop looks like one of the props from the atlantis scene?

I think they probably either made molds or made Concrete stamps from the old props and are re-creating them. If you look closely in some of the updates you can see some blocks made of re-bar and they are scattered around the track. i'm guessing they will get the same look so it would look like a ruin throughout the outside part of the track

[mrskellington]

Yea, they do look like the stuff from the atlantic scene.....hm...I like that new photo of the track though, it look so good, clean, and nice looking, let's check back to that in about a year ot two ;)

[RollingBoulder]

Do we know yet, if it's going to be telling the story of the movie or a different story with Nemo characters?

[Disneytwins]

I don't think so, It will probably will not be the movie in the ride 95% Sure

[MattDaJuggalo]

I talked to my friend who works at disneyland the old subs will not come back as far as he knows due to that the old ones when people climbed up the ladder they would slip n fall because the ladder was wet. Also when building a new ride laws require that every ride be handicap accesibale (thats why in california adventure the lines are wider so handicap people can get through). He said that the subs will have doors. :icon_cry:

[mrskellington]

So no more ladders, and now they have new doors? They gotta be replacing them!

[Disneytwins]

I talked to my friend who works at disneyland the old subs will not come back as far as he knows due to that the old ones when people climbed up the ladder they would slip n fall because the ladder was wet. Also when building a new ride laws require that every ride be handicap accesibale (thats why in california adventure the lines are wider so handicap people can get through). He said that the subs will have doors. :icon_cry:


Actually no offence but that is actually that is not all right. It is law that when the make a new ride vehicle that it needs to be handicap accessable. These subs were made in the 50s and that law wasn't around then so that means that Disney does not have to make it handicap accessable

[Dakoter]

Does anyone have any pictures of the caves after the lake was drained or what the insides looked like underwater while the ride wasn't being used? I have seen three on miceage.com a couple of months ago, but that was just showing the sub car. We have seen so much of the work on the outside in the lagoon, I am very very curious to know what it looks like in side those darn caves!!!!!!!!

[Disneytwins]

I'm sorry but those may be the only pics you see of the Caverns Whoever takes pic inside the caverns Can get into ALOT of trouble. There has been one or two pics on mousetimes a long time ago of the sub at drydock and inside the caverns but it was taken when the Lagoon was filled and in almost the same spot as the ones on Miceage (or Micechat) but I think their now long gone. If a Site posts pics like that they can get into Major Legal Trouble so thats why you don't see those pics

theres many people who want to see pics like that Including Me :) :)

[PeoplemoverMatt]

As can be seen in my latest update, there are big black tarps covering the entrances to the caves, if you can call them that anymore. Things certainly look a lot different now & you can't see inside unless you pull those tarps back yourself.

-- PMM :cool:

[Disneytwins]

and good Luck at that!

[dctrdez]

Things certainly look a lot different now & you can't see inside unless you pull those tarps back yourself.

-- PMM :cool:

DO it! DO it! Do it for VF!

Dctrdez jumps the wall and sprints across the constructions site with digital camera in hand...

:p

[Executioner]

They really have done some major changes to the lagoon. They had already layed a foundation for a show building that the track will go through to the tunnel. It still looked fresh and wet. The dock was completely gutted and is getting redone. Very interesting to look at. Although I wonder how it will look after all the changes.

[Disneytwins]

The Problem is is that they need to wait a week or two before they can start again on the showbuilding because they need the concrete to set. My guess is they are going to work on the rockwork, the dock or just go back into the caverns

[Executioner]

Well, they were doing alot of work on rebuilding the rock formations as you can see in PMM's pictures. They have alot of work still ahead of them. Considering it is opening next spring or summer.

[peter_pan_fan]

Yeah its now official that it is going to be a Finding Nemo themed ride and I'm pretty sure the submarines are going to make a come back in it

[Dakoter]

I not meaning pictures of what the caverns look like now. I am talking about after the lagoon was first drained and before it was drained following the closing of the ride. I saw on micechat the other day saying someone had a lot of photos of the cavern and put a web site up but when you go to it, it doesn't come up.

[mrskellington]

^ I wonder why:icon_roll Disney doesn't want us seeing what's happeneing :(

[Executioner]

Because it is behind the scenes magic. Do magicians want you to see how they are doing their tricks? same concept. That and industrial spies. Maybe not that, but they are out there. It just sounded good. Industrial spies. Ooohhhhh!!!! Disney never wants you to see what is going on. They obviously can't stop people from looking into the lagoon cause of the Monorail and the station or the Train and Autopia. But they can stop you from getting into the tunnels or show buildings.

[PeoplemoverMatt]

^ Or maybe they put the tarps up because its just easier for the construction workers who're in those narrow confines?

-- PMM :cool:

[Dakoter]

I don't think they would care for us to see what the ride looked like drained with all the original displays in the building since we already know what it looks like (atleast from the subs).

[Executioner]

But they don't want you to see what is going on in there for the new stuff being put in. If there was a way to keep you from looking in the lagoon at all, they would have done it already.

[111702]

Prepare to be amazed! SUB CONSRTUCTION PHOTOS!!!:eek:

http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_07_06/index12.html

These construction pics will ASTOUND YOU! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT NEW SHOWBUILDING!!!:eek:

I thought it was just going to be an island, but that's HUGE! Be sure to also check out the other photos of the dock TOTTALY massacred, the tarps in an odd and mysterious shape, and workers...well, working!:biggrin:

(This totally boosts my enthusiasm and excitement! ...Mostly excitement!)

[Executioner]

Prepare to be amazed! SUB CONSRTUCTION PHOTOS!!!:eek:

http://http://www.mousetimes.com/dlrpictorials/03_07_06/index12.html

These construction pics will ASTOUND YOU! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT NEW SHOWBUILDING!!!:eek:

I thought it was just going to be an island, but that's HUGE! Be sure to also check out the other photos of the dock TOTTALY massacred, the tarps in an odd and mysterious shape, and workers...well, working!:biggrin:

(This totally boosts my enthusiasm and excitement! ...Mostly excitement!)


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