View Full Version : Walt Disney's Kingdom of Imagination
jagfkb
04-03-2008, 01:48 PM
While talking to an old teacher of mine who worked for Disney back in the 1960s, I came across the guarded disney rumor of Walt Disney's Kingdom of Imagination. The teacher refuses to give his name, but he is letting me spread this truly interesting story. In no way am I advertising, I just wanted to share this supposedly true Disney story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney%27s_Kingdom_of_Imagination#B asic_Plot_Synopsis
It's kindda interesting, if you think about it. your thoughts?
Executioner
04-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Hmmmm..... One can only "imagine" or wish that it is true or was at least. I think Disney should make it. It's original and even though it doesn't sound so "family oriented" to some, it sure can be. Nice rumor.
Thanks for sharing.
CostaFreak
04-03-2008, 08:50 PM
Oh, Walt did have a "darker" side after all...I like it.
There are too many urban legend motifs in this wiki entry for it to be in any way believable. The animators refused a script that Walt wrote himself? He collapsed and died as a result? The last page of the script was cremated with Walt? Over dramatic. Sadly, the truth is much less interesting.
jagfkb
04-04-2008, 03:41 AM
sorry, i'm not good at writing thngs that aren't overly dramatic. The part about Walt collapsing after he heard that the movie wouldn't be produced was not even believed by me when I heard it. However, as my soure asked, I told the entire rumor. also, from what I hear, there was a bit of controversial material within the script which the animators didn't want. And considerring that walt had never written an entire film before, it's easy to see why the animators would not approve of the idea.
I didn't mean to criticize you personally, sorry if you took it that way. I should be more careful when I post these replies. I just have doubts about the details of that wiki entry.
I know that Disney was much more of a high-brow intellectual than the "Uncle Walt" character he showed us on tv. That he could develop a spec as complex as the one in the wiki entry wouldn't surprise me — but that he would ardently persue it's production is the unbelievable part. He was bitterly dissapointed with criticism of Fantasia. How dare this upstart cartoon peddler pretend to produce High Art? But as a result he refined a sense of popular showmanship that centered on keeping things simple... Tell one story at a time, keep it simple, avoid contradiction, etc.
If you look at the last few films he was personally involed with, like Bon Voyage, The One and Only Genuine Original Family Band, The Happiest Millionaire, they're awfully light on content. Walt was very actively involved in Millionaire and it's about almost nothing at all
I just don't see it as the direction Walt Disney seemed to be going, that's all.
The bit about the last page being cremated with Walt is a bit over the top. It sounds like one of Ward Kimball's tall tales — similar to the whopper he told about the secret film real containing walt's post-mortem instructions to the studio staff; the one no one admits to have ever seen. It's just too much of a doozy.
No offence to you, or your source. This just has all the earmarks of an urban legend, that's all.
jagfkb
04-04-2008, 12:37 PM
yeah, I see what you mean. It is a little over the top in some areas, but still, I can't help but love the idea in this rumor. some of the ideas displayed in the plot, it's almost as if it was from the disney renissance. such complex characters and story lines, and a plot truly disney, yet not disney. the last page being cremated with walt is a little over the top, and i'm not sure whether it was true fact (who know?) or if it was the animator's inside joke, considerring he was so attatched to the project.
AraBrokenDreamer
04-19-2008, 08:34 PM
Oh, Walt did have a "darker" side after all...I like it.
Of course he had a darker side, he's only human after all, and besides, he didn't think these films should be all light and fluffy, he wanted them to have substance, that usually meant a darker tone. That's why I have a different sort of affection for the older animated films, because they had that darkness, which is something the films today need if they hope to succeed with this upcoming generation.
-Ara
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