View Full Version : Gran Fiesta Tour, featuring the Three Caballeros in Mexico NOW OPEN!
quinteros235
04-08-2007, 10:44 AM
El Rio del Tiempo has reopened in Mexico, well actually it's now called the Gran Fiesta Tour, starring the Three Caballeros. The ride now features Jose, Panchito, and Donal Duck on a trip around Mexico. www.allearsnet.com (http://www.allearsnet.com) has some pictures of the new decorations. Check it out!
PeoplemoverMatt
04-08-2007, 01:25 PM
It's a world of laughter, a world of tears. It's a world of hopes and a world of fe-- oops :redface:
-- PMM :cool:
My opinions on the new ride are mixed. While it looks like a fun little ride, It does not teach you about Mexican culture which is supposed to be the point of Epcot.
Alex_Toto_Disneyland
04-08-2007, 02:56 PM
I Don't know what to say about this, i'ts great (a needed refurbishment) and having the three caballeros, but it has lost the main point of the ride, Mexican Culture. Anyways is great , i liked it
cold caller
04-10-2007, 09:52 PM
i dont like the ride because its supposed to be a permanent world fair not a cheap amusement park trying to rip off people.
and plus epcots world showcase is supposed to learn about culture of other countrys. so in conclusion disney is trying to be cheap.:mad: :mad: :mad:
PeoplemoverMatt
04-10-2007, 10:00 PM
They oughta just rename the ride "Finding Donald"
-- PMM :cool:
stitchhead28
04-11-2007, 04:18 AM
First came Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego, now comes the next greatest myestery...
Where in Mexico Is Donald Duck?;)
-Remember, no matter where you go, there you are. -SB
quinteros235
04-11-2007, 04:47 PM
I just saw a youtube video of the ride. It actually looks pretty cool! First, I loved the Three Caballeros when I was a kid. It was such a colordul movie and Panchito and Jose were pretty cool. I'm glad that they're now in the parks.
The animation looks cool and I love how the "Three Caballeros" song is used as the ride's theme song. I still think Disney managed to leave some Mexican culture in it. I agree, they could put more but it's decent now.
Overall, I like this ride, but then again...I have a habit for liking what other people dislike.
PeoplemoverMatt
04-11-2007, 10:17 PM
'Course the big question is going to be how the GP receives this new offering in the Mexico pavilion. Will there be a crowd increase or will there simply be a short-term marginal increase giving way to the same ol' basically nothing. Only time will tell.
-- PMM :cool:
LoehnWolf
04-16-2007, 11:31 PM
Having been on the attraction before the refurb I can tell you with almost 100% certainty its the SAME thing except they seemed to throw the characters in it like in one scene there is a Donald pinata. Sorry gotta give this the thumbs down its just the same attraction with characters thrown over the top of it because heaven forbid there is a Disney attraction that doesnt have a character assigned to it
Having been on the attraction before the refurb I can tell you with almost 100% certainty its the SAME thing except they seemed to throw the characters in it like in one scene there is a Donald pinata. Sorry gotta give this the thumbs down its just the same attraction with characters thrown over the top of it because heaven forbid there is a Disney attraction that doesnt have a character assigned to it
The focus is now on finding Donald. They threw out the entire ancient culture scene and replaced it with Jose and Panchito looking for Donald. I think thats very sad that they would throw out Mexicos ancient history for cartoons. Having said that I do think the Cabelleros could have been added more tastefully and help educate the guests on what they are seeing and not just zoom by on their flying carpet. They missed some great oppurtunities to sell Mexico to the public. A few things i do like about the change is they got rid of the market seller scene and that puppet carousel thing. Epcots mission is to educate and it missed the oppurtunity to create a very entertaining and informative look at Mexico.
i dont like the ride because its supposed to be a permanent world fair not a cheap amusement park trying to rip off people.
and plus epcots world showcase is supposed to learn about culture of other countrys. so in conclusion disney is trying to be cheap.:mad: :mad: :mad:
Well, that was actually WALT Disneys vision... and the Disney company threw away allready 99% of Walt's basic idea, immediately after his death...
Who stil knows that Epcot is the letterword for Experimental prototype city of tomorrow... wich had to be build (NO amusement park, but an actual normal-but-experimental city of 50000 people...) but the project was immediately cancelled after Walt's death, and the letterword was recycled, totally meaningless, for this themepark there is now....
So, if the countries that invested originally to have a pavillion on the spot get TIRED now, it is clear WHY...
Some thought after the one above here...
The "will" of people is seldom executed after their death... I mean: not the written down legal will, but the words and visions someone has about the future, his or her ideas becoming true... If this this kind of will is followed up, this action is called "RESPECT". Nobody after WALT has shown him respect...
Very sorry to say this... (His name is only used for the money machine...)
I went on this last Wednesdsay... very fun ride, a big improvement over El Rio. Sure they took out the song, but they also took out that creepy carousel. :icon_twis The characters were very well integrated into the Mexican scenes, and the animation was great. My only suggestion for improvement is to use Three Caballeros AA's instead of screens at the end of the ride. Ah well, I enjoyed it!
-Skip
quinteros235
04-18-2007, 07:45 PM
I went on this last Wednesdsay... very fun ride, a big improvement over El Rio. Sure they took out the song, but they also took out that creepy carousel. :icon_twis The characters were very well integrated into the Mexican scenes, and the animation was great. My only suggestion for improvement is to use Three Caballeros AA's instead of screens at the end of the ride. Ah well, I enjoyed it!
-Skip
Finally, someone likes the overlay! Yeah, they could use AA's for the end, but it was good nonetheless!
linklewtt
04-19-2007, 07:22 PM
i was happy with it. they could have done more to actually involve Mexico...the ride really is Finding Donald and just happens to be set in Mexico...but I was glad to not only see a Fab Five member featured in an attraction but also to see some rarely used characters.
maybe this will spawn new interest in the film (which is great by the way)
Indy4evr
05-29-2007, 12:10 AM
i only saw the one song on a sing-along. and isn't one of them (the green one) the only MEXICAN in the MEXICO pavillion ride? iono, thats just me...and does it mean that there's a long line now?
quinteros235
05-29-2007, 04:06 PM
i only saw the one song on a sing-along. and isn't one of them (the green one) the only MEXICAN in the MEXICO pavillion ride? iono, thats just me...and does it mean that there's a long line now?
Well, Donald is obviously American. Jose (the green one) is South American (do know what country) and Panchito (the red rooster) is the Mexican. Just clearing things up.
Indy4evr
05-30-2007, 01:18 AM
on wiki, it says one of them is cuban i think.
quinteros235
05-30-2007, 05:57 PM
on wiki, it says one of them is cuban i think.
You trust Wikipedia?
Indy4evr
05-30-2007, 11:02 PM
as a matter of fact. they have editors
FantasmicFan89
05-30-2007, 11:05 PM
I saw a video of it. I don't know what it was like before the refurb, but even though it doesn't quite tie in the Mexican/South American cultures as people say it did before it is still a pretty nice little ride.
That's just my opinion
Jos? Carioca is from Brazil, and got his introduction in the film Saludos Amigos. Panchito is from Mexico, and apeared for the first time in The Three Caballeros.
monkey4057
08-27-2007, 02:42 AM
"On June 7, 2006, a Mexican visiting Epcot came of the El Rio del Tiempo ride and subsequently that the merchants in the ride were offending and real mexican merchants wouldn't do that. He then tried to get him to buy a poncho the same way the merchants in the ride did."
The previous report is fake and is my opinion on one of Disney's problems these days. I have only been to WDW twice (as of now) and went on the A+
El Rio numerous times, sure it would be there on my next trips. However, I was really annoyed when finding out Gran Fiesta was coming and actually sent a letter about Gran Fiesta (and considered closure of Carousel of Progress) to 3 Disney people and Roy himself (about the aforementioned COP part espescially). I eventually got a letter back telling me about the legal system. What?!
I personally think that P.C. is too out of hand these days:
X on Song of the South
X on "In Pizza we Trust" at some Chuck E. Cheese stores
and X on the merchants from El Rio
I personally thought that the merchants were funny, not offensive.
Also, Disney has become a bit too biased.
Do people really pay attention to the storylines of the POTC films? Not much
The only reason the movies are popular is because of John Depp and Orlan Bloom. This led to the new POTC which is now, as many call it, pure marketing.
I say that Disney needs to see this site and look at every thread and forum.
Eventually, Disney may close down World Showcase for a couple years to make it: Character International.
It would feature:
Gran Fiesta Tour starring The Three Cabalerros:Take a boat ride through Mexico as Jose and Panchito look for Donald
Maelstrom A Daisy Duck Adventure:You are touring Norway with Daisy who loves Norway so much, she runs for leader and wins. Norway is then turned into a gift shop, and the movie is Daisy's campaign videos
Iago and Zazu's French Adventure:While on tour, Iago knocks down the Eiffel Tower and he and Zazu must fix the problem
and others
Rant Done.
Eventually, Disney may close down World Showcase for a couple years to make it: Character International.
It would feature:
Gran Fiesta Tour starring The Three Cabalerros:Take a boat ride through Mexico as Jose and Panchito look for Donald
Maelstrom A Daisy Duck Adventure:You are touring Norway with Daisy who loves Norway so much, she runs for leader and wins. Norway is then turned into a gift shop, and the movie is Daisy's campaign videos
Iago and Zazu's French Adventure:While on tour, Iago knocks down the Eiffel Tower and he and Zazu must fix the problem
and others
Rant Done.
That would be my worst nightmare come true. However I feel somewhat optimistic because of Epcots new management.
quinteros235
08-28-2007, 05:23 PM
That would be my worst nightmare come true. However I feel somewhat optimistic because of Epcots new management.
Epcot's new management already got rid of that godforsaken wand off of the Spaceship Earth and are refurbishing the ride.
linklewtt
08-31-2007, 09:16 PM
You have to be lucky enough to be there right at the right moment, but in the first screen where Donald has all those hats and is taking pictures you can see for a second the funny Aracuan bird from the movie (the crazy one that goes yuppa-yuppa-yuppa).
One Swell Bear
09-04-2007, 07:01 AM
I never went on it yet, but I think it's a good idea.
3 reasons why I like the idea:
1. FINALLY something non-pixar. Too many pixar rides, not enough Disney (even though pixar is part of Disney)
2. People complained the old ride being too cheap and touristy. (But I didn't mind it.)
3. Something [semi] new in World Showcase
Big Disney Fan
09-08-2007, 09:08 AM
I know one person who would love this ride: my sister! She loves the movie and she ADORES Donald! By the way, I know that Tony Anselmo voices Donald here, but does anyone know who does the voices of Jose and Panchito here? I'm pretty sure it's the same actors that voiced them in House of Mouse, but I would like clarification.
James N.
10-19-2007, 11:15 AM
It was excellent imo.
The new animation was beautifully done by the great Eric Goldberg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0325196/). I'm glad that they didn't make Donald a 3D character... ugh...
Seriously, the classic Disney characters don't translate well into 3D.
The new animation was beautifully done by the great Eric Goldberg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0325196/)
I agree that the animation is great and Eric Goldberg is a great animator but it just does not belong in Epcot.
Big Disney Fan
10-19-2007, 01:31 PM
I know one person who would love this ride: my sister! She loves the movie and she ADORES Donald! By the way, I know that Tony Anselmo voices Donald here, but does anyone know who does the voices of Jose and Panchito here? I'm pretty sure it's the same actors that voiced them in House of Mouse, but I would like clarification.
In case you don't know who does the voices of Jose and Panchito in House of Mouse, they are voiced by Rob Paulsen (Jose) and Carlos Alazraqui (Panchito).
Anyway, do those two voice the characters in the ride or are they entirely different?
echoscot
10-21-2007, 04:40 PM
I personally did not like El Rio because it started out cool with the ancient culture then turned into a Mexican Small World ride. Part of the reason we were told that Mexico had some issues originally is that the governments are expected to help sponsor their pavilion and the outcome of the design was based on the expected funds and contributions.
Anyway, I would like to see this version before passing judgement. They did need to do something. And guys, I mean come on, it is Walt Disney World so you've got to expect Disney to be there.
Anyway, I would like to see this version before passing judgement. They did need to do something. And guys, I mean come on, it is Walt Disney World so you've got to expect Disney to be there.
I agree El Rio Del Tiempo was not the greatest ride ever. The ancient Culture scene was very cool and historacly accurate. The Rest was full of stereotypes and Weird Carousel Puppets. The idea of putting the Three Cabbeleros is not neccesarily a bad thing but the execution was done poorly. Its just Jose and Panchito looking for Donald with no educational value and is out of place at Epcot.
echoscot
10-23-2007, 05:56 PM
I agree El Rio Del Tiempo was not the greatest ride ever. The ancient Culture scene was very cool and historacly accurate. The Rest was full of stereotypes and Weird Carousel Puppets. The idea of putting the Three Cabbeleros is not neccesarily a bad thing but the execution was done poorly. Its just Jose and Panchito looking for Donald with no educational value and is out of place at Epcot.
On a positive note....At least they weren't looking for Jack Sparrow...LOL;)
Big Disney Fan
10-23-2007, 09:10 PM
On a positive note....At least they weren't looking for Jack Sparrow...LOL;)
And on an even more positive note, there are absolutely NO references whatsoever to Pixar!
disneyfan2121
03-07-2008, 12:24 AM
Let's not get carried away with this "Epcot has to educate" business. It IS a theme park. If I want education first and entertainment second, I'll go to the library!
P.S.: Gran Fiesta is a fun little dark ride.
PeoplemoverMatt
03-07-2008, 01:45 PM
If you like to measure the worth of a change by how much the demand has increased or decreased, it's getting about the same crowds as it did as El Rio De Tiempo so... *shrug*
-- PMM :cool:
tomserwin
03-07-2008, 09:59 PM
This ride confused me a little. It was like Pirate and IASM all at the same time, except it's about the Three Amigos.
Let's not get carried away with this "Epcot has to educate" business. It IS a theme park. If I want education first and entertainment second, I'll go to the library!
P.S.: Gran Fiesta is a fun little dark ride.
The thing about Epcot is it can educate you and entertain you simoultaniousley. I have learned more about life in Epcot than anywhere else why because the rides teach you about the world with subjects like Communication,Energy,Space,the Future ,Transportation etc.
Epcot is a treasure because it teaches and entertains.
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