Disney's Canada group project [Archive]

markmansion

02-25-2007, 11:41 PM

I'm from Wisconsin were the seasons are: Almost Winter, Winter, Still Winter, and Road Construction. Wisconsin is very near Canada and beleive me it is NOT always cold. In fact on a single day it can be below zero and snowing, and the next miniute it will be 50 degrees out. And Summers are HOT. So I think Canada would be fine to have a park, because it would be closer for me than Florida or Cal. It would also be ok in the Winter even if it were out doors. You would just get a lot of hardcore Disney fans in the winter because they know not a lot of people would be at the park when there is a snow strorm.

Anyway check this out and tell me a park in Canada wouldn't work.
http://www.tdrfan.com/additional/snow/index.htm

maul2

02-26-2007, 04:11 PM

Exactly. Does anyone have any other ideas for lands so far we have.

-Main Street
-Adventureland
-Winter Wonderland
-Canadian Outback
-Tomorrowland
-Fantasyland
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markmansion

02-26-2007, 04:41 PM

How about a white water rafting ride?
A Quebec area near James Bay?
I don't know I think you should incorporate so much Canadian stuff in the park aside from a Canadian style main street and Canadian Outback replacing Fronteirland. I am not opposed to a second park like Disney's Canada, just make sure you don't focus on one territory otherwise you'll turn it into a Canadian version of DCA. I mean I don't think DCA is too horrible but it insn't great. I just wouldn't want a Canadian park to be the same way.
Anyway if you make a Canadian Main Street make sure you make it from a diffrent time period. The Main Street in the other parks works very well because it represents a diffrent time peroid and make everything more magiacal.

CostaFreak

02-26-2007, 05:12 PM

I think those are all the lands needed.

I have one complaint about Adventureland. There are no jungles or rainforests in Canada, so that wouldn't make sense.

So, how about this idea for a replacement: New France.

The theme of the land would be a newly settled French colony in Canada. All the buildings are made out of logs. The area where all the shopping and food places are within a fort. The fort would also contain a shooting gallery, a BBQ steakhouse, and a stage show.

The land would also contain LaSalle's River Adventure (the area's Jungle Cruise/Pirates of the Carribean type ride), and a mine train coaster.

But for this land to work, Canadian Outback may have to be sacraficed.

Oh, and for the Space Port in Tomorrowland, since the ride would be above an arcade and the building can't be over 200 feet, the ride would have to leave and re-enter the building, like this:

http://www.waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/36c82f80.jpg

So, what do you think?

wdwmickeyfan

02-26-2007, 06:08 PM

I have one complaint about Adventureland. There are no jungles or rainforests in Canada, so that wouldn't make sense.

If Adventurelands could work at the other Disneylands, why can't it work in Canada? Isn't this just another Disneyland, albeit a Canadian one? Or is this park going the route of DCA and having everything themed to Canada?

soyboy

02-26-2007, 06:50 PM

^ I guess that the weather isn't the best for the jungle trees and other things. Oh, costafreak, did you draw that on your own? It looks amazing!

CostaFreak

02-26-2007, 07:23 PM

^I would have, problem is I wasn't alive 40 years ago. That drawing was concept art of Space Mountain before WDW even opened.

maul2

02-26-2007, 09:06 PM

Whatch you talking bout no rainforests.

http://www.rainforestweb.org/Rainforest_Regions/North_and_Central_America/Canada/

Alot of BC is a rainforest.

How am I focusing on only one province. I have Main street which would probably be montreal or Quebec. I have BC and Alberta-Adventureland/Canadian Outback, the Maritimes-our harbour/ fishing port.
Winter wonderland-Pretty much all of canada there.Where have I missed?

Main Street is going to be from a different time period, some where in maybe late 19th century to early 20th. I've got to do a bit more research into that.

I do like the New France idea, but it may be incorporated together with Canadian Out back s many settlers were french and french speaking people are a big part of Canadian history.

Who says it can only be 200ft. Blue sky people, big bright bueatiful blue sky.

I'm not planning on having everything tailored to Canada, although each land will have a slight Canadian influence on it. As such fantasyland is still fantastyland just with maybe a couple Candaian fairytales mixed in. Tomorrowland that's pretty much all new stuff. The other lands are sort of Canadian parts and not specifcally canadian parts. It's just finding that balance.

markmansion

02-27-2007, 07:12 AM

I think some people would not like it if you didn't incorporate Pirates. Remember what happened with Pirates at WDW. Disney thought they didn't need it because people would not care for it because they live near the Caribbean. However they found out that people actually did want a Pirates ride but when they decided to finally put a Pirates ride in MK, they had to make an abridged version. Now if people in Florida wanted a Pirates don't you think Canada would want one. Also I think people would react better to exotic lands not offered in Canada and then have a second park based on Canada or vise versa.

That picture you posted with the Canadian forests made me wish they had made Soarin' Over Canada at Epcot so at least they would have a reason why you could see a large building in the back of the Canadian pavilion. lol

Aren't there Native Americans in Canada? what about them? or are they included in the Canadian outback?

maul2

02-27-2007, 11:21 AM

Yah, I was actually just thinking of that. Maybe in with the french settlement and outback. Have a native camp and somekind of maybe buffalo jump ride. OR maybe a theater/show.

I agree with you on the exotic lands tha'rt's why I'm trying to include some as with Adventurland and Tomorrowland and some of the non canadian rides.

CostaFreak

02-27-2007, 12:38 PM

Ok, what if there's Adventureland. How about if it was themed to the Carribean and South American rainforest. It would have both Pirates of the Carribean and Raging Spirits.

I kind of agree with all the Canadian stuff too. How about if this park was a an ordinary Disneyland with some new lands original to it, but a second park with a full Canadian theme.

Oh, btw, the reason SM can't be over 200ft. is that'll distract the hight of the castle.

imagineer_me

02-27-2007, 01:46 PM

Hey that second park could be called Canada Adventure! Hopefuly it won't turn out like it's brother park.

Hey, so, can I join the project? If I could, I would like to be in charge of this second Canada park or hotels and stuff outside the parks. Just kicking ideas around.

markmansion

02-27-2007, 02:24 PM

Disney's Canadian Adventure, a DCA we can be proud of. :icon_lol:

In reguards to SM being taller than the castle, i don't think it would matter. I mean look at how tall DL's castle is. Plus not only is it smaller than SM but the Matterhorn is right next to it. Which as far as I can tell is taller than Sleeping Beauty's Castle. I'm just saying.

CostaFreak

02-27-2007, 06:21 PM

^They decided to not make that mistake again in WDW (yes, I know SM and BTMRR are about 10ft. bigger than Cinderella's Castle, but it's only by 10ft).

Now, for *ahem* DCA. How about we recicle some ideas from the old "Canadanized" Magic Kingdom and put it here.

Here's some ideas:

What if the entrance of the park was an old fashoned 1800's Maritimes Harbor (hmm, another harbor enterance for a park themed to a single country. Sounds familiar, eh?) No detail would be spared on this what so ever.

New France could be another land. All the buildings are made of logs and wood, and lanterns and some hidden lights light up the night for an old time feel. The area would be home to the park's icon and main attraction, Cold Peak River Falls.

The Woodlands could be another land. The area's buildings are made of wood, and the entire area is filled with trees. An indian village can also be incorperated. The area's main attractions would be the Canadian Woodland Railroad and a coach ride.

Winter Wonderland is a place themed to the snowy and cold nature of Canada. The park's Test Track type ride, the Iditerod Run, would be the area's main attraction. A smaller coaster, along with a Narnia ride and a 3-D motion simulator are some of the rides there.

Vikingard would be another land themed to a Midieval New Foundland. The area's main attraction would be Maelstrom, while a few flat rides are placed in certain areas. This area is also home to a stage show.

maul2

02-27-2007, 08:17 PM

WOW, I think I missed something. Second park. Sounds good, but where'd that come from.
So what are we putting in the first park?

markmansion

02-27-2007, 10:25 PM

I mentioned that it might be better to put most of the Canadian themed stuff into another separate park and make the MK have exotic lands and if any part would be themed after Canada, make it from a diffrent time period. However it might be better to have all the Canadian stuff in one park aside from the MK because it would be like if there was Disney's America and then you had Main Street, New Oreleans Square / Liberty Square , and Frontierland in DL/MK which would seem like everything was disorganized. Although it sort of does at WDW but I'll leave that for another thread.

I think for the first park should be the standard MK with our own modifications, or we could do something completely diffrent like park similar to Epcot with a WS at the entrance like the beginning of Epcot's WS, meaning it doesn't start off with any specific country just a large space with some gardens or somthing so that it can flow smoothly with the Canadian Park entrance adjacent to the 2nd park's entrance. This way it makes it looks like the Canadian Park is the Canadian pavilion of the 2nd park when it is really a sparate park. Or would this be too much edutainment?

CoastaFreak, did you use my Iditarod idea from my seasons park? lol. Anyway I don't know if it would work because the Iditarod takes place completely in Alaska. Also Narnia starts off in Great Britan before going into Narnia so I don't think it would work out in a Canadian themed park but it could work in a MK park. One more thing, Maelstrom takes place in Norway and not NewFoundLand. You could make a ride based on all the inhabitants of NewFoundLand and Labrador but the actual Maelstrom is Noreign.

Obviously I want to make the suggestion of Soarin' Over Canada. I mean if you've seen O' Canada you would think the same thing because a lot of the movie has footage flying over parts of Canada.

Go Imagineering! Woot!......wait isn't that someone else's line?
ok I'll make up my own catchphrase.

Remember people, in imagineering the sky's the limit! If you work for OLC. Otherwise the limit's eight 1/2 feet.

wdwmickeyfan

02-28-2007, 02:02 AM

^They decided to not make that mistake again in WDW (yes, I know SM and BTMRR are about 10ft. bigger than Cinderella's Castle, but it's only by 10ft).

Actually, Magic Kingdom's Space Mountain is only 183 feet tall compared to Cinderella Castle's 189 feet. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is 197 feet tall.

maul2

02-28-2007, 06:56 AM

As for deliberating specifically, I am trying to decide we should get a little more of the general planning done first and then go into specifisc or start on the details right now.

Well Imagineer_Me if you want to start on the hotels and stuff go ahead. I think we'll maybe split the parks up into lands and then deliberate the lands or maybe even the individual rides later on.

What if in the second park we the Ice castle at the middle with the gardens like you suggested in front and then have it lead into winter wonderland at the back of the park? jUST SHOOTING AROUND IDEAS.

markmansion

02-28-2007, 11:01 AM

I think we need to decide what the two parks are going to be right now.
These are combinations I have so far. Feel free to add your own ideas, I'm not exactly project manager.

MK = Magic Kingdom style park
MKC = Magic Kingdom with Canadian influence
DC = Disney's Canada style park
WS = World Showcase style park
Epcot = Every Person Comes out Tired
Other = well I hope I don't have to explain this

1. MK and DC
2. WS and DC
3. MK and Other
4 Other and DC
5 Other and WS w/wo Canada

I also had this idea in a diffrent thread before of having three parks, Fantasyland Park, Adventure Delta, and Tomorrowland Park. That way we don't have any conflict between MK and other parks that seem to have the same theme as on of Mk's land's like in WDW you have MK (Adventureland and Tomorrowland) and then you have Epcot and Animal Kingdom which seem to have the same look and feel of the themed lands in MK.

imagineer_me

02-28-2007, 12:01 PM

Okay so I'll get to work on thinking about the hotels. Also I'll start on a Downtown Disney type thing if that's okay. And I think we should add a recreation park somewhere in the resorty. Just throwin' around ideas!

CostaFreak

02-28-2007, 12:19 PM

I like the idea of having MK and a separate DCA (Disney's Canadian Adventure) park. The Ice Castle thing for DCA sounds too much like MK if you ask me. A mountain or large rock formation in the middle of the park could work though.

Btw, Iditerod's from Alaska, but wasn't Alaska at one point an unterritorized (is that an actual word?) land in the Canadian half of the North American land mass?

Oh, to answers mm's question, I did take the Iditerod idea from the Seasons park.

imagineer_me

02-28-2007, 01:48 PM

Why "Disney's Canadian Adventure?" It's initials are the same exact ones as DCA. It's so...so...not original! Let's think up an original name for the park.

markmansion

02-28-2007, 03:19 PM

Well in all fairness DCA's official name is Disney's California Adventure Park. So the abriviation should be something like DCAP (you could pronounce it Decap. :biggrin: ) Other than that I don't really see what the initals have to do with anything and not only that but nothing is even set in stone yet and DCA is just a filler name for right now. Or we could call it Capow'd! Canadian Adventure Park of Walt Disney, or we could do DAPOCIABIWOPOC which stands for Disney's Adventure Park of Canada Including Alaska Because It Was Once Part of Canada.

Or we could do TAGABYC wich stands for......try and guess as best you can.:biggrin:

maul2

02-28-2007, 03:57 PM

Personally I like option number one.

Imagineer Me: Go for it!!!

What if we had the ice castle in the middle of the second park and then had the park built around it. Make it a very unconvetional disney park. A lot of trees and scenery and very indistinct boundry makers between areas. They'll be there just i sort of flows together. You know what I mean??

Name isn't really important right now, we can change it later. That's the name for now cause it's conveinent.
Although personally I could really see "DAPOCIABIWOPOC".

maul2

03-01-2007, 07:54 PM

I can't beleive I didn't think of this before, but here it goes.

HOCKEY!!! We put the lagoon at the back, behind the castle or whatever we think of in the middle. Around the back of the lagon we stick theme'd buildings and docks. (boat Rides??) As you travel to the left around the lagoon, near the end, there is some kind of invisible barrier and it suddenly turns all snowy, as in ground and buildings have snow on them. The laggoon at that end is blocked from the main lagoon and is "Frozen" over. A hockey rink is placed on this rink and people can rent skates and go skiing.

UIt might not work but it's a cool idea.

CostaFreak

03-01-2007, 08:23 PM

I was thinking for some type of lagoon to go at the edge of Maritimes harbor in DCA, but this idea isn't so hot (or should I say cold) for the summer. But it's a great idea for the winter season!

Now, for the DCA icon. Is it just me, or do other people have a problem with the ice castle? Seriously, the MK will have a castle, so there is no need for one here. I was thinking a mountain or rock formation.

Vote: Ice Castle vs. Mountain or Rock Formation.

maul2

03-01-2007, 08:39 PM

That's why i said, or whatever else we think of.

Why can't there be winter in summer, this is Disney, is it really that weird.

imagineer_me

03-02-2007, 08:36 AM

^ I like it maul2!!! :biggrin:

I think the Ice Castle thing is a bit...I don't know. Just because Canada is cold for most of the year why does everything have to be cold and ice in our park? Why not just a usual castle? Or we could do the ice castle and say that it's the Ice Queen's castle from Narnia but that wouldn't work because you don't an evil person's castle for the landmark.

BUT we could have the Ice Queen's castle in a land that we could put in. Valley of Villiany! You can picure what I mean just by the title.

As for the main castle we can choose from:
Cinderella's castle
Sleeping Beauty's castle
Belle's castle
Ice queen's castle (which I would not prefer!)
And maybe some other princess' castle. Which other ones are their???

Well just really putting ideas out their! I think we should include Valley of Villiany in the park. So what do you guy think about all this?

Oh and for DCA I think we should have a HUGE snow capped mountain as the center. And a Matterhorn/Expedition Everest type ride. :cool:

maul2

03-02-2007, 10:32 AM

Obviously I wasn't being clear. We are using Belle's castle for the magic kingdom. And something else for th DCA park. I like the mountain idea, maybe the rocky mountain mining company???

imagineer_me

03-02-2007, 10:44 AM

^ Ohhhhhh!!! Now I get ya. lol! Ok so what do you think of Valley of Villainy? The Ice Queen's castle could be the facade for a Narnia ride.

CostaFreak

03-02-2007, 12:28 PM

Uhh, I mentioned a Winter Wonderland area for DCA, so what if the ice lagoon and the ice castle Narnia was there?

imagineer_me

03-02-2007, 01:24 PM

^Well maybe. But I think we should have a Villain land in our DL! does no one agree? It would be awesome!

maul2

03-02-2007, 02:34 PM

First off I think we need to set up some groundrules for one min.

Because it obviously getting very confusing talking about the two parks, when discussing a new ride or land or anything, CLEARLY POST what park you are talking about.

Now a Narnia ride in winter wonderland sounds like a marvoless (Spl?) idea. (If you are wondering, Winter Wonderland is in DCA.) I still think we should have part of the lagoon in winter wonderland in DCA. Stick a little path that leads of the her castle and have the ride there. Perfect!

Adding a Valley of Villany to MK sounds awesome. maybe an off shoot of fantasy land. I love it.lol.

SO let's try to keep things as unconfusing as possible while talking about our parks.

imagineer_me

03-02-2007, 04:12 PM

^ Okay! Great!

Now, I wanted to say a few things.

Now we are thinking of things that are already in Canada to be included in the MK park. That's great BUT I think there is way to much of it. I mean if you wanted to see a Winter Wonderland all you have to do is drive a bit and your their. We are almost trying to put all the thigns in Canada in the MK park. We need to put more stuff OUTSIDE of Canada in the parks or else it will be very boring for the Cnadians. DCA will have to include stuff from Canada of course but not so much the MK. I hope you all agree.

I'm working on the DTD and hotels so stay tuned!

maul2

03-02-2007, 10:07 PM

Let's get this straight.

Disney's Canada Adventure:
-Mountain with ride in middle
-Lagoon
-Winter Wonderland-including Narnia adventure
-Canadian Outback
-Anything else I may have missed

Magic Kingdom:
-Fatasyland-including valley of villany
-Tomorrowland-60's expo
-Belle's Castle
-Adventureland
-Anything else I may have missed

Where is all the canadian stuff in the Magic Kingdom you are talking about

Also, yes DCA will have much based on Canada but also much based on other things themed to each land, eg. Narnia in winter wonderland

markmansion

03-02-2007, 11:46 PM

How does Winter Wonderland fit in with Canada? And does Narnia really fit in with the canadian theme. I think if we were to put Narnia and WWL in DCA we would have to change the overall theme to something other than Canada because it wouldn't make sense. When using the theme of Canada I think all the attractions shoulf have something to do with Canada and WWL seems more fantasy orientated.

I think WWL should be a sub-land type area between TL and FL. Have the side of Belle's castle have some hills and stuff spreading out from it and as it gets further down everything becomes covered with snow. They could actually do this considering everyone here keeps insisting Canada is cold all the time. They could just wait for real snow or they could use snow machine. All they would need is a cold night and since Canada is cold most of the time, I guess, they could just spray some snow on after park hours when it is probably the coldest. The machine works by just spraying water out of a machine at a high presure or something like that. Check this out. (http://www.snowathome.com/)

CostaFreak

03-03-2007, 07:10 AM

Let's get this straight.

Disney's Canada Adventure:
-Mountain with ride in middle
-Lagoon
-Winter Wonderland-including Narnia adventure
-Canadian Outback
-Anything else I may have missed

You missed:
-Maritimes Harbor
-Vikingard
-New France

I have a new idea! If there's to be a Winter Wonderland in DCA (very nessisary), how about if we have a in park built Blizzard Beach type thing, but as it's own land, a "waterland" so to speak within the park.

imagineer_me

03-03-2007, 08:47 AM

^ I like it!

I was just making sure nothing Canadian WOULD go into MK. I think WW (Winter Wonderland) fits perfectly into DCA. Why doesn't it???

Okay looks like we are on a good track. Keep it up!

maul2

03-03-2007, 09:13 AM

I like the winter water park, idea. The Maritimes harbour=Lagoon, sorry.

MarkMansion-For winter wonderland. Does not A bugs land have nothing to do with California. Plus every ride isn't going to be Canadian themed.

markmansion

03-03-2007, 02:29 PM

I know but Narnia takes place in the U.K. first before it goes into Narnia. The only situation in which it could work is if there was a hollywood section in the park. As for a Bug's Land in Cal, the movie never really states where it takes place and the area came off the heels of Bountiful Valley Farm. In Narnia's case it does state that it mainly takes place in the U.K. while in the real world. I kinf of have a hard time seeing just how exactly Narnia fits in. You could put it in but then I think you would have to vhange the theme of the park so that half was about Canada and the other half was based in somthing else. Maybe you could do like Epcot and have the first half be Canadian themed and then have a second half further up and themed after the seasons or something. You could incorporated parts of my Seasons park without all the holiday infuence. This way you could have a WWL, Narnia, and the Iditarod ride. Although it would be pretty hard to accomlpish this in the dead of winter.

Could you possibly make this story into an attraction? http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/bc2.html

Ezra

03-03-2007, 02:29 PM

Does not A bugs land have nothing to do with California. Well, yeah. That's part of what's wrong with DCA - inconsistent themeing. Why make the same mistake with your project?

maul2

03-03-2007, 05:24 PM

Well, the way I see it. Winter wonderland, is part of canada, (the winter aspect, and it's only one ride. And the other lands are going to have other non canadian rides. Or did we just want to put in in MK.

An idea I had today. What if in MK, we had a lagoon/River that went all the way around the park. And the ship (Still have to figure out what one), will travel around the park through this river. It will go through adventureland, and fantasyland and all the other lands. There will be bridges that will cross the river that people can go over to get to the other lands. Each themed to it's land, eg. Rope bridge in Adventureland etc. It will take a bit to figure out how to layout the river to make it as easy as possible to get around the park.

imagineer_me

03-03-2007, 07:08 PM

Like a form of transportation? It sounds really cool! And it would be a challenge to design because it would have to look like it fit in, each land it passed!

maul2

03-03-2007, 08:47 PM

Well, not really a transportion, more like rivers of america. Although a wacky Idea I had was to extend the river into DCA and have a stop there. But it would be very hard to put in to practice. i have a map idea. I'll post it soon.

By the way how did your show go?

markmansion

03-03-2007, 09:43 PM

Are you talking like instead of the rail road tracks there would be a river?
I think that would be a cool idea, although it would plauge expansion. If they wanted to add a new attraction like how DL did with Indy, it would pose a problem. I mean before it's even finished they can make tunnels going under the river like BTMR does at DLP.
I actually had an idea like this to replace the rail road with a river and make MK a giant island.

Ezra Said
Well, yeah. That's part of what's wrong with DCA - inconsistent themeing. Why make the same mistake with your project?
Yes this was another point I was going to make. Please don't make the same mistake Cal made. I hate to rip on DCA (Cal) but when planning a new park you can always use DCA as an example of what NOT do do.

maul2

03-03-2007, 10:15 PM

Alright, so are we moving WW, personally i would loev to see it stay where it is.
I was thinking of having the railroad go beside the river, maybe over it, but I doubt that could happen, what with having the ships go through and all.

We also forgot indian village in DCA.

CostaFreak

03-04-2007, 08:21 AM

I mentioned an indian village when I posted the DCA overview. But now since MK will be surrounded by a boat ride, what if there was a train ride in DCA (which I also mentioned already).

imagineer_me

03-04-2007, 08:55 AM

No no. We can't have the river subsitute for the train! It just wouldn't work. I think Maul2 was just thinking of a bigger ROA.

I think WW should definately STAY in DCA.

We need some form of transportation for DCA!

By the way how was your show?
Great! Closing Night is next Saturday so I still have a while. Thanks for asking!

Oh and for Indian Village...let's do it. I'll make a hotel themed to it.

And DTD...you better be ready...it's not going to be like any DTD you've seen before!!! Well maybe not...just trying to get you guys excited!

maul2

03-04-2007, 10:10 AM

LOL!! Love it. I'll get the map online today. That should clear things up. What if we had the train (CNR), loop through MK and DCA. But only have the river go through MK.

What if for the Hotel we had the entrance into the park the indian village, like the Grand Californian does.

Who did you play?

imagineer_me

03-04-2007, 10:31 AM

^ Yes let's do that!

I play Jim Hawkins. And the show is Treasure Island.

maul2

03-04-2007, 10:42 AM

Sounds good.

I love Treasure Island. But I love Muppet treasure Island more.

imagineer_me

03-04-2007, 06:26 PM

^ Oh yeah! I like that one!

maul2

03-04-2007, 06:43 PM

I was just Mr. Brownlow in our production of Oliver!.

imagineer_me

03-05-2007, 01:15 PM

Was it a school play? If not, what company was it?

maul2

03-05-2007, 03:42 PM

School play.

Map is coming along, just a little more.

imagineer_me

03-05-2007, 06:43 PM

I have a really cool restuarant idea. I'll post it later but it's going to be either in the Indian land or Indian Hotel. It's called Totem Pole Cafe.

And while on the subject of hotels...I've decided for right now we need 3 hotels.

The Three Hotels are:
Indian Hotel
Winter Lodge
???????

I need one more hotel. And names of hotels are not final!

Downtown Disney is coming soon. I have decided for a 1930's Hollywood/New York City theme, not the mall type architecture they have now. OR we could have a Hollywood town AND a normal DTD! That would be cool. Ooh..I'm getting so much ideas as I right this!

Okay so I think we shold have a 1930's Hollywood AND A DTD. If you don't want two let's just not do DTD. But I would personally like their to be two. What do you guys think?\

And for the park...It's a really nice relaxing park. It will have tons of gardens, playstets...and even Kite rentals that are cheap. You can fly on the field! You will be able to rent sport balls and stuff. The picnic area will be in the park.

Just really putting ideas out their! What do you guys think?

maul2

03-05-2007, 07:01 PM

Sounds good. Good thing we arn't placing any land restrictions on the size of our park.lol!!

imagineer_me

03-05-2007, 07:04 PM

Ya, definately. When will the map be ready? And what park are you doing it for?

maul2

03-05-2007, 08:39 PM

All of the property. Most likly tomorrow night. I've still got a bit to add. It's just a rough guide remember things can change.

maul2

03-07-2007, 09:14 PM

Success!!

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/maul2/MK-DCAmap1.jpg?t=1173330633

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/maul2/MK-DCAmap1-2.jpg?t=1173330662

Sorry I couldn't put them together. I included both a route for the ship to go into DCA, or just through MK. Just so you don't get confused. I was thinking, It' will have to be a pretty shgort ship in order to be able to go under all the bridges needed. Just a thought. Also, there are 2 lands with ???? in them. We need something to put in there.

So enjoy.

imagineer_me

03-08-2007, 09:38 AM

Looks good. I was doing some concept maps last night and It was pretty much the same. But I included the Hollywood 1930's town to which I think should go on the left of DCA. Also we need to address parking. I think it should go all be in one area so we have more expansion room and no random parking lots all over the property.

mickeymania1

03-12-2007, 05:09 AM

1st of all, I don't think for Disneyland park you should all the lands mixed out anywhere. I think that all the lands should be going in the order at other Magic Kingdom parks & I also agree with the Canada themed park & I think that the Canada park should have the video from the Canadian pavilion, "O Canada!"

maul2

03-12-2007, 06:13 PM

Why do we HAVE to have our park the exact same as every other Disney park. Come on, experiment have fun. Be weird, I am!!! That's what this is for to have fun and try some weird stuff in a disney park.

imagineer_me

03-12-2007, 07:26 PM

^ yes!!!!!!!!!!!

maul2

03-13-2007, 06:54 AM

Thank you, thank you (Bows). LOL.

Alright I think we should start delegating tasks and getting a little deeper into the areas. But first I need to know who wants to have a chunk of the park. So just copy the list into a new post and add your name to it. I'll start...

maul2

I'll give everyone a couple days. Imagineer_Me your doing DTD already, right so you don't need anything.

imagineer_me

03-13-2007, 02:09 PM

Okay.

maul2

03-17-2007, 12:37 PM

Well,i'll start work on general stuff, you know land sizes, placement all that jazz. And then probably do Tomorrowland or Adventureland and Canadian Outback or the Harbour.

It would be nice if everyone could take over one land in each park.

imagineer_me

03-17-2007, 09:58 PM

Where are you guys?
--------------------------------------Double post added here.
As far as DTD...what do you guys want? I have a couple ideas but none are 'shows stopping.' Just wondering what shops and stuff you guys would like. And for theaters: No movie theaters in DTD. Those will be in the Hollywood town thing. As for regular theaters: I put one in for DTD but I think I'll take it out. What do you guys think?

imagineer_me

03-21-2007, 09:21 AM

Please post guys. This project will not die! ;)

I've had some great progress on my projects. DTD is almost ready for posting. I would say it's great!
The Hollywood thing is coming along GREAT! It is really cool!
The recreational park is pretty much done I just need to organize where stuff will go. Also I think we should move the ice skating rink to the park area. What do you guys think about that?
The picnic area will be in the park. Details on the park coming either later today or tomorrow.

For hotels...I came up with a hotel that will be right next to the park. It could just be garden themed or something. It'll be small, earth tone colors. What do you guys think? So the hotel lineup:
Indian Hotel
Garden hotel
Winter lodge
One more? Or are we good with these?

So the recreational park should be up later today and the rest of my projects coming in through the next week. Thanks!

maul2

03-21-2007, 12:16 PM

I think that should be good for hotels.

Sorry this week has been absolutly insane. I havn't even had a chance to think about any of this. Next week is just going to get worse.

imagineer_me

03-21-2007, 03:19 PM

^ Okay.

Yeah, it can be like that sometimes. lol. Park still coming....
--------------------------------------Double post added here.
Here it is!

Recreational Park

This park is somewhere within the resort. Maul2, I guess you will decide that.

Okay, so first (like in all parks) we have our play area. The playset is huge! It has anything you can think of that a park would have. It will be lots of fun. Big sand area too.

Then we have our baseball field. It's just a regular baseball field that the guests can play on. I think one or two should be enough.

Then the soccer field. It also doubles as the kite flying field. You will be able to rent and fly kites on the field on the weekend. And then when it's not being used for kites people can play soccer and stuff.

Then we have the Ice skating rink. I think we should move it here from WW. IDK why, but....

A tennis court.

And a unmarked field of grass for running, tag etc. etc. Yay! Lol!

Oh and also nice gardens with fountains and stuff to walk thru and relax.

And the picnic area (I think) should go here too.

Okay, tell me what you like what you don't like etc.

Some things I was thinking of to put here...

A pond? W/ paddle boats???

Rentals Building
Sports things are free to use. You can rent your kites here. And also your ice skates (if we end up having the ice skating rink here.) Architectuaral (sp???) wise the building will be very 'soft'. The colors will be earthy. lol!

And then of course the hotel's entrance will be right here to.

Well that's it. Please tell me what you guys think!

imagineer_me

03-30-2007, 09:10 PM

9 days no posts. Tut tut. LOL! JK!

Okay so what do you guys think of the park? Please post guys. This project will not die.

maul2

04-01-2007, 07:59 AM

I've been running around like mad for the last week and a bit. Alot of stuff had to be put on the backburners of life, and unfortunatly this was one of those things. I really like that idea, now where do I put it??

imagineer_me

04-03-2007, 08:02 AM

Hmm...well put near DL on the left side of the park. Does that make sence?

maul2

04-03-2007, 07:38 PM

Got it.

imagineer_me

04-12-2007, 07:57 PM

Once again I will try to put life into this thread. Aren't you guys interested in this anymore? Where are you guys? CoastaFreak? Markmansion?

Okay, what we need to do:
Each person needs to pick a few lands to devolope, and devolope them. Just post which ones you woud like to do.

Here's a list of lands for you guys to choose from:
Disney's Canada Adventure:
-Lagoon
-Winter Wonderland
-Canadian Outback
-Maritimes Harbor
-Vikingard
-New France

Magic Kingdom:
-Fatasyland & Valley of Villainy (One land.)
-Tomorrowland
-Belle's Castle
-Adventureland

From this list I see that MK needs more lands and DCA MIGHT have to many. So start thinking about that.

For our TL...
Let's not call it 'Tomorrowland'. Keep the Expo/Worlds Fair theme. Have new and inovative things on display like at Worlds Fairs. Add some well themed attractions and you've got a land. BUT, it needs another name with this stuff. I don't have any ideas except for maybe Discoveryland but it shold be a name that reflects the theme more.

And one last thing, I think we need to get what we have done and planned already, altogether on one post. I won't have time to compile it all so could someone else do that? Thanks.

Okay, please post and tell me what you guys think.

imagineer_me

04-15-2007, 08:55 PM

And one last thing, I think we need to get what we have done and planned already, altogether on one post. I won't have time to compile it all so could someone else do that? Thanks.

Actually I'll do it. I'll find some time.

imagineer_me

04-22-2007, 11:56 AM

Please post guys. Any ideas? Anything?

maul2

04-22-2007, 08:00 PM

Sorry guys, it has just been absolute maddness for the last... couple months... apparently. But I 'll see if I can start to get something going. It's just been insane you have no idea!

In imagineerme's words "This project wil not die!" It will not, will not, will not die,(Brings out defibrillator), CLEAR!, will not die! LOL

imagineer_me

04-23-2007, 06:46 AM

^ LOL!

Where are you CostaFreak? Markmansion?

maul2

04-23-2007, 07:45 PM

Look's like it's just me and youi know for a while. How was your trip by the way? And since it is just me and you, what would you say to me just doing the basics of the whole of DCA, for now?

Actually if you don't mind I've always wanted to design a water park, so I'll take that to,if you don't mind.

Man I'm having to edit this alot, I just thought of another idea for MK, what if we had an area based underground. Not totally underground just like in a giant crater and there could be parts that explore various caverns and tunnel ways that lead to rides and restaurants and little scenes (animatronic) alienesc creatures, and if you go far enough in you reach the journey to the center of the earth (but a new, different version).Te whole outside area could be themed around a mining/exploratory mission into the caverns.
What do you think?

hehe... I love Fender!!!

imagineer_me

04-24-2007, 09:09 AM

Okay go ahead on DCA and the Water Park (good third park for now.) Um...I like the idea for MK but it wouldn't fit with the TL we have now but we can always change it! :-)

maul2

04-24-2007, 10:03 PM

Who said anything about tomorrowland. I meant it as another land in MK.

imagineer_me

04-25-2007, 08:19 AM

Ohhhh...okay. Sorry! Hmm...so the idea is fronteir-ish. We could put it there but then you say "alienesc creatures." Maybe I'm dumb but I'm not getting this idea. Mining on outside, alien and Journey...in the inside????

I'm confused!:confused:

maul2

04-25-2007, 11:33 AM

Let me try it this way. Pretend a giant asteroid crashed into earth, it left a massive crater, but it also exposed an entire underground series of passages let lead down into earth (these passages are what remains of some creature that lived underground, they died off but now other strange creatures inhabit the caves (I said alienistic because no one has seen them before and they have evolved underground and they have evolved to deal with the massive heat of underground). This crater and caves systems are about to be explored by an expedition (Outside themeing) and then once you start to explore the caves you discover the story of the civilization that made the caves and eventually you get down to the "journey to the center of the earth" TYPE ride. There will also be other rides and shows and stuff based on this themeing inside and out. Ex. A tour of the mines on a expedition vehicle (Sort of a mini railroad within this land, hving little scenes of all he little creatures and stuff like that), also inside the caves a rollercoaster type ride where you meet a big beastie inside the caves and are chased through the caves, or a show explaining the history of the caves and a story about how they went extinct, maybe a restaurant but I'm not sure about that, anything else we might think of.

Still confused??

maul2

04-28-2007, 10:15 PM

Anybody here???

Anyway, I was wondering a few things Imagineer me, how many hotels do you have planned, how would you feel about this: we have 2 of the hotels based around a central hub, and that central hub is at the entrance to DTD, and another hotel is placed at the other end of DTD. The entrance to the recreation park will be about halfway up DTD on the right side (go with me on this one) the FIRST entrance to the waterpark will be opposite it, going to the left side, the waterpark will loop around DCA (DCA is on the left side), the SECOND entrance to the waterpark is on farthest left side of the park (or the farthest back if you are at the entrance), if we didn't want to put a hotel at the back of DTD, we can put as the entrance to the waterpark (you go underneath a part of it to get in to the waterpark) I'm really not sure if I want to have the second entrance, but we'll play with it.
The recreation park will loop around MK.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/maul2/park.jpg
Hope this makes it a little clearer. If not let me know. Of course this can all change to suit whatever you've got going fo DTD and hotels and such.

EDIT:So far we have.
Disney's Canada Adventure:
-Lagoon
-Winter Wonderland
-Canadian Outback
-Maritimes Harbor
-Vikingard
-New France

Magic Kingdom:
-Fatasyland & Valley of Villainy (One land.)
-Tomorrowland
-Belle's Castle
-Adventureland/Ancient city (I'll explain this one later)
-Crater/Underground caverns
-Harbour/Boat (themeing??)
-Canadian main street (How did we miss this one??)

I think that should be enough. What do you think?

imagineer_me

04-29-2007, 12:06 PM

I have 3 hotels planned:

A Garden kind of one...(not so sure about this one anymore.) If we did it it would have to be right by the park...the entrance would need to be in the park.

A Winter Loddge kind of one...for the Winter Wonderland area, I think.

An Indian Hotel...for a land that isn't on that list. Did we not want to do the Indian land?

Your missing the Hollywood thing on that map, btw.

Oh and the recreational park isn't that big.

DisneyParksFan

04-29-2007, 01:05 PM

Hey there. This project sure is getting interesting!
I just finished reading through all the thread's pages.

I was wondering if I would be able to help out with the project, mostly on the things dealing with the Magic Kingdom Park
I have some ideas that I think would fit into your Expo/World's Fair Showcase Tomorrowland design.

For your garden theme hotel...what if you made it Victorian Style? You could have a courtyard in the hotel's center...maybe enclosed so that it stays alive all year?
I would place it alway from everything though so that you could put spacious gardens along it's borders instead of right next to the park.

Maybe instead of a garden hotel...put a hotel close to Canadian Main Street. Make it behind it and maybe have some rooms over looking Main Street...make it blend in?

~DisneyParksFan

maul2

04-29-2007, 03:50 PM

Sure hop on board.

Imagineerme, Picture is not to scale!!!
(I know i'm going to sound like an absolute idiot by saying this but) What hollywood area?

Thank you for the reminder about indian village. Forgot about that one.

Alright so i've got, DCA and waterpark, imagineer me has DTD and hotels and rec park, and DisneyParksFan can start MK. Be this as it is, we can all still contribute to everything. (I would really like to do my crater land!! HEHE)

Anyway. Let's keep it going.

imagineer_me

04-30-2007, 11:22 AM

I'm going to scrap all the hotels and once our parks start getting some more shaping I'll go through and see what lands/themes I want to base the hotels on. Nice idea, btw, DPF!

Downtown Disney is coming soon. I have decided for a 1930's Hollywood/New York City theme, not the mall type architecture they have now. OR we could have a Hollywood town AND a normal DTD! That would be cool. Ooh..I'm getting so much ideas as I right this!

Okay so I think we shold have a 1930's Hollywood AND A DTD. If you don't want two let's just not do DTD. But I would personally like their to be two. What do you guys think?

Just really putting ideas out their! What do you guys think?

This was the first post I did for the Hollywood town which would be outside of the parks. Just go back a few pages and you'll see some posts from me about it.

I think we need to read throught the thread and look at all the ideas we had. We're having so many ideas, I think we need to get them all into one post. I'll do it. I already did some too! :smile:

Welcome to the project DPF!

maul2

05-01-2007, 08:14 PM

You go right ahead, sounds good.

Do you guys have msn? for ease of discussion.

imagineer_me

05-02-2007, 12:52 PM

Okay. I will go right ahead ;)

DisneyParksFan

05-02-2007, 08:15 PM

I'll try to post a concept map for Tomorrowland this weekend.

~DisneyParksFan

maul2

05-02-2007, 08:28 PM

Fast worker, or you must have an insane amount of free time. I have this plus school/homework plus another model that I am working on plus an amazing amount of other stuff. So ya.

imagineer_me

05-03-2007, 07:37 AM

You're making a model? Of what?

maul2

05-03-2007, 02:56 PM

Basically it's just a little diorama that I'm working on. basically it's a bunch or "Orc" attacking a tent settlement of "Elves", (Brackets because it's not really Lord of the rings, I'm just using those figures because because they were easy to get and went with the themeing)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/maul2/P5020102.jpg
This is just a general overview, of what I have so far.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/maul2/P5020101.jpg
This is a close up of the temple entrance and the orc boat to date. The temple entrance is going to lead to a large cavern cut in to the mountain that you can see from the back.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/maul2/P5020103.jpg

This is where the elves will be, with orcs climbing up the cliff sides. The platau on the far right will be the site of a large lookout tower. and the lower platuea will have a bunch of elf tents.

DisneyParksFan

05-03-2007, 05:34 PM

For Tomorrowland:

Are we going with a retro feel, a metallic look, or both combined together?

For Space Mountain (Space Port): are we going with the classic Space Mountain look or the design originally proposed for Disneyland where the track goes in and out of the building?

For the title: Are we thinking of Tomorrowland or something else like Discoveryland for the title?

~DisneyParksFan

maul2

05-03-2007, 09:32 PM

I've been doing some thinking about that. This is my issue with the expo idea, don't take this personally, but it sounds like were backing ourselves into the same corner Disney did with tomorrowland. The Expo was how many years !AGO! (as in past tense), where as TOMORROWland is (Future tense). See where I'm going with this, tomorrowland was meant to show of what mankind is going to be and could be in the future (NOT showing of a cool world expo)

I posted this on another imagineering forum i'm on.
"I agree with one thing, we should trash most of tomorrowland and start pretty much a new. Keep Space mountain, keep the subs (close yours mouths and just read), other than that trash it all. I agree that we need some sort of unifying theme. Let's think... Tomorrowland, tomorrowland, tomorrow...land, land of tomorrow, (land=city), city of tomorrow!
We have the entire land themed like a city of tomorrow. we have a house of tomorrow, a transportation system of tomorrow, the subs!, they would be themed as an exploratory mission to the darkest depths of the oceans, space mountain would be a trip in to out space (space terminal), one thing that I think would be really cool, would be to have these massive arches that went over all of tomorrowland that meet over the "hub" of the city, there would be elevators that lead to the center platform at the top, that you can walk around in and see all of everything. Also I saw this one concept drawing in an imagineering book, it was very bright and active and hip. One thing that I think that would look good would be to have along the sides of the main path, would be to have a couple of stairs going down (all the way along the street) and there to be either jazzy restaurants or "Nightclubs", themed apprpriatly. And of course a shop or two with special features of new technology (actual tech that's being produced, that's on display, not for purchase), that's all I've got for now (well not really, but I don't know how to put the rest into words)."

It shows off what amnkind could be like in the future. I think it would be really cool. Just a couple of thought's.

This has really been bugging me the last little while, the whole expo thing never quite sat right with me. But hey that's my two cent's, you can do whatever you want with it.

imagineer_me

05-04-2007, 07:32 AM

DisneyParksFan

05-04-2007, 01:54 PM

^^ ok, sounds fantastic!

~DisneyParksFan

maul2

05-04-2007, 02:27 PM

http://www.disneypodcastnet.com/viewtopic.php?t=3673&start=25

It's not so much an imagineering forum as an imagineering thread

Wig

05-04-2007, 04:56 PM

^ I like that idea. It's just the original EPCOT but a little smaller. Let's put that in our park. 1) because it'll honor Walt's original EPCOT idea (which has not been used yet, tsk tsk to Imagineering.) And 2) I like it. It would be really cool to bring back the Flying Saucers but that wouldn't really fit the City of Tomorrow theme. WOW! I'm getting really excited about this idea by the minute! Let's do it! BTW, what was that Imagineering site that you posted this on?

Wonderful model, so far!

........................... I am very sorry, BUT.... Do you really know WHAT exactly was Epcot in Walt Disneys mind???
As the idea of the Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow was actually a CITY, so NOT ( N O T !!!! ) an amusement park of whatever kind you could think or dream of, the above quoted text would be 100% meaningless...
The city of tomorrow was NOT a theme, in Walts vision, but a laboratory of urbanistic techniques, to be populated with some 50,000 inhabitants (no tourists, inhabitants are inhabitants, dear people...)

DisneyParksFan

05-04-2007, 07:16 PM

^^ but you can use the idea of Epcot as a launching pad.

Of course, you cannot create a living, working environment inside the walls of a theme park. While it might seem possible, it would be extremely difficult to accomplish. You can take that idea of people living and working in the city and rethink it so that it is usable for a theme park setting.

You can create fictional apartment buildings that would display the living area of tomorrow (like say a House or apartment of the Future). This building could simply be a facade or an attraction. Wouldn't it be possible to put in a hotel along the border of the land?
After all there was supposed to be a hotel in the center of the city where tourists would spent the night after they visited the city and it's surroundings, learning about the possiblities of tomorrow's modern lifestyle through American company sponsered displays and presentations.

You can also create an attraction based on a working facility that would demonstrate the possibly of science and technology in tomorrow's lifestyle.
You could have a transportation system elevated above ground level that would display the rapid transit system of tomorrow. You could even throw in the moving sidewalks if you wished (which though could be dangerous in a theme park setting).
Of course, you would not have levels underneath the land because there are no actual cars or trucks running under the park.
Could the land be enclosed? Sure...why not?

You are right, EPCOT could never be a theme park because it would in today's society be considered an impossible feat...let alone a major security risk. Of course, not everything can be exactly duplicated for a theme park land based on the possiblities of tomorrow, but not everything will ever be thrown completely away...you can base something on another whether it's in it's full reality/potential or only if a few details are represented. EPCOT will never be a theme park, though pieces of EPCOT could be.

But, I guess you can't dream up anything that could possibly be used from the original Epcot idea and adapt it for a theme park environment over 40 years after the developement of the Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow...making everything above 100% meaningless...

~DisneyParksFan

maul2

05-04-2007, 08:51 PM

Here here. That would actually be a good idea to put the hotel right outside tomorrowland as a futureistic apartment. All though I REALLY don't think that we should have the "Elevated walkway" ie. the same mistake disney made with rocket rods, it blocks the flow of traffic and impedes the veiw. Just a thought.

DisneyParksFan

05-05-2007, 09:23 AM

So do you want to have a peoplemover style attraction in the land? Because that is what I meant by an elevated transportation system.

~DisneyParksFan

Wig

05-05-2007, 11:37 AM

I appreciate DisneyParksFan 's personal style and capacity to think over everything in more than one way. You have a very nice feeling for real discussion !
-----------------------------------------------
So, first,
I have no problems with whatever kind of attractions for an attraction park... but just, let "EPCOT" out of it, to be truely honest towards Walt Disney himself...
The Disney company allready has NOT been honest to him...
Walt KNEW this, his own brother was against the whole idea of spending company money on building a city (just SPENDING...Walt was not thinking about making profits !!!) ... and so after Walts death, his brother, as CEO, misused the Epcot letterword to turn words into meaningless new profit.

So, second, again,
I suggest, you leave this final goal of Walt, wich never became true because he died to early, untouched just to commemorate him...

Then, third,
To be practical, about for instance "a house for the future" exhibit in tomorrowland!??? In Anaheim, there allready has been such (the Monsanto house exhibit in the 60-ies) for a short time. Such houses-of-the-future exhibits (museum) exist nowadays in several places around the world. (Even here in my county, Belgium, there is such an exhibit! What is called a 'house' then turns out to be a modern ''palace" by the sheer size needed for the museum function... showing technology, but not realistic beeing a real 'house'... http://www.livtom.dotnet35.hostbasket.com/ >>>> Vilvoorde (Brussels) = in Belgium, Amsterdam = in Holland, San Jose = in USA.... these are the 3 exhibits of 'Living Tomorrow' organisation. The Belgian exhibit was the FIRST of its kind in the world, the actual exhibit is allready the 3rd edition!!!! )
Planning something....
If it is meant to be an "attractive" attraction, it cannot be something too realistic. (Must be fun, right??) If it must be scientific-realistic, then it will not be very attractive.... except in the context of a "Museum of science and technology", wich is not the purpose of Disney parks.

So, lets go to the path that suits Disney well, for instance : an attraction named "Everything went wrong in the house of the future"... Homely humorous disaster ride... nice idea??? :)

Other ideas.... mirrored to the real world:
People movers??? ...or so = small scale automated public transport...
Is profitable in well planned "congestion areas". This means big cities. Probably too costly for small cities, as actually in a real city a people mover is not an attraction but a means of tranport, thus a NETWORK. No public transport without the context of network...
Moving pathways? Even more costly and energy consuming. Only advisable in the most congested of congested areas.... like center city railway station neighbourhoud, or inner city shopping center... totally ridiculous however in small cities.
Urban techniques for small cities are different, and not much exciting. Both energy and environmental circumstances have considerably changed since Walts time, so even the most basic ideas for a REAL EPCOT should be revised to be acceptable in 21st century.
.....
I think its good just to smile and make jokes about this future. Future is very fast 'old fashioned' if fixed in an amusement park..... :) :) :)

imagineer_me

05-05-2007, 02:57 PM

^ Okay, wait. I said it would "honor" Walt's original idea for EPCOT, which was a city. We might do a City of Tomorrow type land. Yes it would honor Walt's idea for EPCOT but it would be different than the original concept (i.e. nobody would live there.) I did not mean to say that it would be just like the idea for EPCOT. I meant that it would be the same core concept therefore honoring Walt's original EPCOT. When I said: "It's just the original EPCOT but a little smaller" I didn't mean that it would be just like EPCOT. When I said smaller I was meaning a theme park version. Sorry, I see now where your coming from, Wig. I didn't express my thought very well. I hope I've explained myself fully. :)

Wig

05-06-2007, 03:14 AM

Oh yes, I understand this, and I agree such kind of a park CAN be a good idea!
Though, I just reject the letterword Epcot itself, because the meaning of it cannot be tranferred to the NON real world....
That, and just that is the way I'dd like to honour Walt with, and there he allready HAS been betrayed by his own company right after his death...
( Remember: Epcot stand for: 1/REALITY (no attraction), 2/Scientific lab on urbanism (testing on site, proposed scale 50,000 inhabitants), 3/CHARITY project (money going IN, not coming OUT!!!!!!!) )

Like to think about a GOOD (=right) expressive name for the kind of attractionpark you 'dd like to see build?
Then, here is a proposal: Future City Great Adventure

imagineer_me

05-06-2007, 11:45 AM

We are just having it as a land in our Disneyland park. We are going to call it Future City, I think. It might be better Futureland or something like that though.

Wig

05-06-2007, 01:10 PM

mmmmmmmmmmm
if it would just be one 'land' of Disneyland, then Futureland sounds allmost the same as Tomorrowland...
Then Future City is a better set-off ! :) ... In my opinion, the DULLEST attraction of them all in Tomorrowland is Autopia. It takes a lot of space... Well, lets build Future City right there, with hidden ride extensions possible to be build behind the Railroad (*), And let it be an add-on 'land' FROM within Tomorrowland, just as Toontown feels like an add-on from within Fantasyland. In this way, it could be even budgetwise... LOL
Both the monorail and The peoplemover are already there !!! (PM To be reinstalled, of coarse)
Much green should be included in Future City...

(*) mmm, would be lined up at the wall with the S.Harbour blvd then, but perhaps a long and rather narrow multistory building actually lining up the edge of that road instead of the dull wall, could be interesting... A bright facade at roadside, upper stories used as backstage - attraction container, lowest level (to be sunk 1/2 level) to allow the service road operating, and 1st floor (actually 1/2 level above the boulevard) used as a shopping arcade !??

maul2

05-06-2007, 04:08 PM

I think you got the wrong idea here, we're not changing the exsisting Disneyland, were making a NEW totally independent and original park.

So there won't be S.Harbour Blvd, or Autopia or Toontown or the exsisting Disneyland. get it.

Why does everyone get confused by this.

As for "EPCOT", obviously it's not going to be an entire city, duh!! Ours is just showcasing what a city could look like but Disneyized. Obviously it's not going to be called EPCOT, any of the names we use on here is really just to help ease talking about it, so we're not going to call the Canada park DCA (Disney's canada adventure), that's just easy to use for now, we'll change it later.

For the Peoplemover in OUR tomorrowland, I don't think that we should have the one that runs straight down the middle of main street. It congests traffic and just looks ugly, in my opinion.
As for the whole network thing, as we're just having a small section of a city, it would be alright to have just a ride that goes around in a circle, it just shows what it would be like.

imagineer_me

05-06-2007, 05:27 PM

Let's just go all out with the future city theme and do like moving sidewalks and a "second story" of the land. Let's make it pretty big and put a good size of focus on it to make it really cool.

Oh! (The recent revival of the original Disneyland Canada thread brought this to my attention) We don't really have a location for our park. Maybe we don't need to do it right now but we should keep it in mind....

And...I had an idea for our Adventureland which I will post later after I develop it more.

maul2

05-06-2007, 06:11 PM

I thought we were putting it in the foot hills of the rockies??

Any way for Adventureland, this is an idea I have been developing for a while. There is an entire ancient city lost in the jungle. Around the land the are sort of ancient ruins, you know a collapsed stature here, a decrepid underground temple entrance here etc. Once you work you way into the main part of Adventureland you can see spires jutting out from the trees and you follow a path and it leads you to the main gates of the city which is also the entrance to the big ride of Adventureland (I mean the bigger than indy, space mountain and screamin' put together). One thing if we use this idea that I will absolutly insist on including is that the city will be huge and fully explorable, ie. there could be various buildings with stores or mini scenes (interactive things that you have to discover) along with paths leading over rivers and canyons to secluded spots in the middle of the jungle.

It would take quite a bit of thought to put it together, but I think it would be so cool. A giant playground for adults and kids alike.

imagineer_me

05-07-2007, 06:30 AM

^ I love it. Let's do it!

My idea can incorparate into that if needed.

Rtoups

05-09-2007, 02:24 PM

So basically Tom Sawyer Island and Adventureland rolled into one? Making Adventureland fully interactive is a great idea. But the ride size might be TOO big.

Also, I am willing to make any concept art for this. I have the tools and ability (somewhat) to do it, so please tell me what you want me to draw.

imagineer_me

05-12-2007, 06:47 AM

I won't be able to got on :vf:alotr this week. This coming week is dress week for a show that i'm in.

maul2

05-12-2007, 12:02 PM

No prob, we'll still be here when you get back!

Good luck, have fun. What play is it this time?

maul2

05-20-2007, 10:46 AM

^It would be really cool to bring back the Flying Saucers but that wouldn't really fit the City of Tomorrow theme.

Here is just a random thought, but what if we had the Flying saucers themed as a futuristic racing track (The future of NASCAR!) And there could be stadiums (Which would actually be the queue, So you would start up at the top and wind your way down the bottom, while being able to watch the "races"), and instead of cars we have flying saucers, and you can get in one and bump your way around the track, racing or bumping.

Neat huh?

Where is everybody??

imagineer_me

05-20-2007, 06:37 PM

^ I don't know abot that....I have some ideas for the Future city and the space-ey kind of theme (ex. flying saucers) to fit together which I will post later. Wow i'm posting alot of things later lol

maul2

05-20-2007, 09:04 PM

Hey, it was just a thought.

Ya , I have alot that I need to post later too. LOL!

DisneyParksFan

05-24-2007, 05:25 PM

Wow, it's been awhile since I posted on this thread. :biggrin:
Sorry about that...I've been a little busy. I can start working on the project again around next week.

I'll try to post a few things then.

~DisneyParksFan

Big Disney Fan

05-24-2007, 05:44 PM

Hey, is there anything that I can do for this Canadian Disneyland project here? Or have they all been taken long ago?

maul2

05-24-2007, 08:50 PM

Sure, you can. Either grab a land in MK or DCA. I've got the Waterpark and the entirity of DCA right now, plus my Crater land in MK. DisneyParksFan has the entirity of MK at the moment. ImagineerMe has the Hotels, Downtown Disney areas. I'll try to get an official list up soon.

Big Disney Fan

05-24-2007, 09:20 PM

Can I do Fantasyland?

DisneyParksFan

05-25-2007, 10:14 AM

That's alright with me :)

Remember that Fantasyland and Valley of Villainy are both together to create one land.

~DisneyParksFan

imagineer_me

05-25-2007, 10:19 AM

You could probably do FL. But I think I would like to do the Valley of Villainy part of FL though.

Big Disney Fan

05-25-2007, 10:20 AM

I haven't thought up too many FYL attractions yet, but one of the attractions I have thought up for is The Adventures of Pinocchio, which is a longer and more elaborate version of DL's Pinocchio's Daring Journey. You can view the whole verbal tour for that ride here: http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15232.

Anywho, I haven't thought up much, but I'd say the Pinocchio ride of mine is a start.

imagineer_me

05-26-2007, 07:30 AM

Okay, so I'll do Valley of Villiany.

Big Disney Fan

05-26-2007, 08:51 AM

And I'll do Fantasyland and the first attraction I've thought up is The Adventures of Pinocchio, which is a longer and more elaborate version of Disneyland's Pinocchio's Daring Journey. You can view the whole verbal tour for that ride here: http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15232.

maul2

06-19-2007, 05:51 PM

Wow, this has really died off, but "Men we can bring him back, We have the technology!" LOL.

Anyway... Just saying hi and hoping we havn't totally forgotten about this. I know we'rll all busy with the imagineering challenge (I'm one of the competitors, Imagineer_Me's a judge, etc, etc, etc. Any way Now that schools almost over I'll have some more free time to get with this again. So let's keep this one alive.

imagineer_me

06-19-2007, 06:17 PM

^ Let's do.

I am busy with the competition...just getting it off the ground and going good.

But I'll see all the things I'm doing and get it all together.

CostaFreak

06-19-2007, 06:36 PM

Oh, yea, I almost forgot about this thread.

Sadly, I won't come back to this thread until after the contest. I'll have to push this one aside...

for now.

I'll come back to this when the time comes, so don't worry.

Big Disney Fan

06-22-2007, 05:08 PM

I almost forgot this one, too.

Which version of Fantasyland should we use here? The old medieval tent look (found at WDW and TDL) or the newer Alpine village look (found at DL and DLP)?

And, uh, which one is the HKDL version designed supposed to be again?

maul2

06-22-2007, 10:16 PM

make something up, be different. And I have no idea.

Big Disney Fan

06-22-2007, 11:29 PM

make something up, be different. And I have no idea.

How, pray tell, can we be different, hmm?

maul2

06-23-2007, 07:43 PM

I don't know right now. Use your imagination, work a little bit. I'm to tired right now.

BCC

07-14-2007, 06:26 AM

Disneyland would take place of the Wonderland in Toronto. If anybody's interested, I'll post my idea.

Big Disney Fan

07-17-2007, 08:33 PM

Is the Canada park gonna have a Toontown, and if so, what attractions will be featured?

maul2

07-18-2007, 10:50 AM

I'm not sure. If we do, we have to make loads better then the one right now.

BCC

07-18-2007, 04:28 PM

Look at a satellite picture of the East Coast at night. Look how MANY LIGHTS are being used!!! People call that place a MEGApolis! If we build a Disneyland in Toronto, imagine how many people would come! It's way closer than Orlando and California! We would be attracting people from New York and Chicago! Those are HEAVILY populated cities!

Big Disney Fan

07-19-2007, 11:26 PM

I'm not sure. If we do, we have to make loads better then the one right now.

Which one right now? There is more than one Toontown, you know.

maul2

07-20-2007, 09:31 AM

Oh right, the Disneyland, Anahiem one. Add some better rides, expand it a bit. You know that kind of stuff.

Big Disney Fan

07-20-2007, 11:27 AM

Oh right, the Disneyland, Anahiem one. Add some better rides, expand it a bit. You know that kind of stuff.

Oh yeah, about that. If you were to look at this thread here (http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15340), which is about my ideas for improving the Disneyland Resort as a whole, you would notice that one of my ideas calls for a DRASTIC expansion of Toontown, which will include, but are DEFINITELY not limited to, several new attractions (and the removal of a few others) and the removal of a "dead end" which I think is one of the main problems with Toontown. The second entrance will be beyond Big Thunder Ranch in Frontierland.

I will also bring these expansions to a brand-new Toontown for Disneyland Paris (link here: http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15709, all about my ideas for improving Disneyland Resort Paris), which will be a carbon copy of the one at Disneyland, but I'm not bringing those expansions to Tokyo's Toontown, as there is too little room. I'd like to bring the expansions there, too, but one has to be practical sometimes.