Disney's SPLASH MOUNTAIN At Disneyland, Paris!

[mickeymania1]

I have an idea for a new attraction at Disneyland, Paris replacing "The Chapparal Theater" at Frontierland. The attraction is partially a clone of Disneyland's but has better audio-animatronics with more movement. Anyways the train passes through the mountain before stoppin at Frontierland Station.
Guests can also meet Brer Rabbit, Brer Fox & Brer Bear outside the shop next door, "Brer Bear's Dumbells."

New features to the attraction include a Brer Frog audio-animatronic in the queue saying about Brer Rabbit leavin' home & how he's headed for troublr just before you board the logs. Another thing is that the songs are more country like Disney World's with a banjo in them.

What do y'all think?
ANd if ya hate it, PLEASE DON'T FLING ME IN THAT BRIAR PATCH!!!!!!

[ichabod crane]

"Fling"
Not a bad idea

[ParisianGirl]

Not a bad idea, it'd be great to have a water ride at DLRP. Unfortunately, the characters featured in Splash Mountain are virtually unknown in France (dare I say in Europe, even ?) ... Maybe a Pocahontas themed-ride ?

[mickeymania1]

Maybe they could re-release Song of the South into movie theaters in France & Europe & heck every couintry! Then they'd be able to undertand the attraction.

[Henry Ravenswood]

It's true that Song of the South (La M?lodie du Sud) is not a well known Disney movie in France ... but most of my friends have seen it ... and you can find it quite easily ...

[Ezra]

That's true. It's available in Europe and Asia. It's just not available in the Americas.

[Sesshomaru-sama]

I think it could still be built even if people in Europe do not know about it as much as the America does. However, as long as the story is told in the ride it should do okay.

Sincerely, a brother of a half-demon,
Sesshomaru-sama

[DisneyParksFan]

Well, if it was built...would they keep it in operation all year? I know that it does it cold there in Paris and there are quite a few outdoor attractions that do close down during the winter season.

What do they do over at TDL with their Splash Mountain?


~DisneyParksFan

[imagineer_me]

^ Good question! Maybe the water freezes and then it's realy like Ice Mountain! Imagine what it would be like going down the big hill...except forzen! Woo hoo!

I'm feeling silly right now! ;)

[Henry Ravenswood]

Tokyo Disneyland's website doesn't mention anything about Splash Mountain on their Closure of Attractions' page (http://www.tokyodisneyresort.co.jp/tdr/english/plan/schedule/tdl_stop.html) :icon_conf.

By the way, I keep seeing the walk around bears from the Country Bear Jamboree when I go to Disneyland Paris ... even if we don't have the Country Bear Jamboree !

[SplashMountain]

Not a bad idea, it'd be great to have a water ride at DLRP. Unfortunately, the characters featured in Splash Mountain are virtually unknown in France (dare I say in Europe, even ?) ... Maybe a Pocahontas themed-ride ?

In America, once all the baby boomers pass on, wont Song of the South, be relatively unknown here?

[DisneyParksFan]

In America, once all the baby boomers pass on, wont Song of the South, be relatively unknown here?

That's true, but I guess with how Splash Mountain was created, you really didnt need to see the movie to understand the basics of what is going on...at least that's how I see it.

They need to get that movie out of the vault ;)


~DisneyParksFan

[DVCHopeful]

Song of the South is pretty unknown in America anyway, I'll bet most people who ride SM don't know what movie it is from

[Sesshomaru-sama]

Very true. I didn't know about it either.

Sincerely, a brother of a half-demon,
Sesshomaru-sama

[turlaach]

Did you know that there are plans (that probably won't be used) to build a Splash Mountain at DLRP? I'll try and find the article I read it at...

[Henry Ravenswood]

I've found a post about DLRP's Splash Mountain :
http://www.dlrp.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1225

... apparently, WDI did plan to build a Splash Mountain in France, but for some reason (... money ... I guess :icon_cry:), they put their project on standby ... The post is in French, but there's a nice drawing to show us what it would have looked like ... snif !

I have an idea for a new attraction at Disneyland, Paris replacing "The Chapparal Theater" at Frontierland

mickeymania1, you're really impressing ! :icon_shoc

[mrsix24]

this doesnt exactly mean they'll never build a SM in DLRP! Project ideas do come back to the drawing boards quite often in WDI...plus SM is my ALL time favorite WDW ride (i havent been anyplace else like DLR) so I would definately like to see this project plan expand into a detailed project because this is what "So, you want to be an Imagineer?" is all about! Creating new ideas even if they never will come true! I mean I recently finished working on Disney's America project and although that may not ever go back to the project boards, it was still fun creating. So can we turn this project into something big and make us the greatest SM WDI has ever created! ....wow i sound like an idiot lol sorry guys I got too into this...hehe but i do wanna help make this a more complex ride!

[Sesshomaru-sama]

Splash Mountain is awesome. I wish I can go on it again.

Sincerely, a brother of a half-demon,
Sesshomaru-sama

[DV Brer Rabbit]

Great idea!

[Sesshomaru-sama]

I sense future ImaginEARs.

Sincerely, a brother of a half-demon,
Sesshomaru-sama

[mickeymania1]

Thanks, Sesshomaru-sama! I really want to become an ImaginEAR. I literally come up new attractions & entertainment every Half hour.

[mrsix24]

anyways i thought we should start working on this project and i guess the best way to stop is to submit any idea we can think of that could make SM a better ride than it already is. Well I think the first thing that would make the ride interesting is the actual wait for the line itself! idk if someone mentioned this but maybe an interactive brer frog who talks to guest as their traveling into the mountain? or better yet would anyone find it odd to change the storyline a bit and not make the characters come from Song of the South? Maybe make our own story and plot and base it around the whole mountain? hmm comment and add anything you want that would make SM better.

[DisneyFantatic07]

Great idea you made. I never knew there was not a Splash Mountain there, so I guess I should find out more about Disneyland Paris.

[CostaFreak]

Is it ok if I'm part of this, cuz I have a few things in my mind that could make this one a little different than the others (so it doesn't have to be another direct clone).

BTW, nice idea mm1.

Ok, my idea is this. What if on this version, the big drop does a kind of Ripsaw Falls manuver. By that I mean have it drop below water level, and rise back above water level with a small 10 ft.airtime hill before soaking the riders.

[Sesshomaru-sama]

Kind of like what Disneyland's Splash Mountain has in a part before you go to the Laughing Place?
Also, I wish I can become an ImanginEAR as well. I love to create attractions. Great, now I miss RollerCoaster Tycoon. Some jerk kicked my backpack that had the disc inside of it.

Sincerely, a brother of a half-demon,
Sesshomaru-sama

[CostaFreak]

No, I mean the big drop to look something like this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/180428180_a5b8ac96fb.jpg?v=0

The laughing place drop would have to change though.

[SplashMountain]

^^That ride's intense!! I think it would probably be TOO intense for Splash Mountain. Ripsaw Falls is the only water ride to have ever freaked me out.

[Sesshomaru-sama]

I see what you mean now. Good idea. I think it could work.

Sincerely, a brother of a half-demon,
Sesshomaru-sama

[Big Disney Fan]

You know, I've had an idea on a Splash for DLP myself, right coincidentally where the Chapparal Theater, the FRL DLP train station and Critter Corral are all are. In my idea, the petting farm will get the old heave-ho, while the depot and theater will be moved a few yards up the track.

I know for a fact that the weather is an issue in Europe, but then again, it's also an issue in Japan and they have a Splash Mountain there. That's why, in my DLP SM idea, the precautions that had been taken in Japan (including putting the load area completely indoors) will also be placed in France.

I have a question, though, before I do my proposed verbal tour: should I have the ride be more like DL (single-file log boats) or WDW/TDL (double-sided log boats)?

[mrsix24]

Double sided because it makes the loading go by much faster and your doubling the amount of guests on per ride.

[Big Disney Fan]

Here is the verbal tour for how I would do DLP's SM:

First of all, this incarnation of the popular attraction will take its cues from the other three Splash Mountains the world over. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Let's begin with the queue...

The entrance to the attraction is designed to resemble the mill structure. It is very similar to the structure that houses the first lift hill in the other versions of the attraction. After passing through the mill on the first floor, the upper floor through which you pass is only the critter tunnels. It is laden with small waterfalls and lights. You pass by a shadow of Brer Frog, speaking (in French) about Brer Rabbit's exploits.

Eventually, you reach the double-sided logs. Since chilly weather is the norm in much of Europe, especially in wintertime, the safety considerations from Japan are used in France as well; the load/unload area, therefore, is once again indoors.

Once aboard the log boat, you depart from the load area and cruise through a cave entrance and pass below Brer Frog who sits on a tree branch above the river and gives the guests some parting words, as always. But in this case, his dialogue alternates between English and French. Passing below the branch, you mount the first lift hill which, as always, leads out of the mountain and around the Briar Patch. Just like in Japan, the logs go in the opposite direction. You then mount the second lift hill, which, again like in Japan, is a cave instead of a mill.

Leveling off from this climb, much of this portion of the ride is exactly like Florida's (with the critter dwellings, including Brer Rabbit's and Brer Fox's, and the medicine wagon), but in this case, it's indoors. At this point, "How Do You Do?" starts playing, as background music. The only part of this portion that is outdoors is the swing-around providing a great view of the park. Like in Japan, you reenter the mountain before you descend the first waterfall, which has no name (unlike the States, where it's called "Slip'n Falls").

This lands you right in the first scene: Brer Frog reclining on the alligator while fishing. "How Do You Do?" is played in French. You then pass by Brer Rabbit and Brer Turtle standing outside the Briar Patch, ready to leave for parts unknown. You then pass by some critters performing the music. You then pass by Brer Bear in the rabbit trap while Brer Fox yells at him (in French) and Brer Rabbit laughs at them both.

Then you pass by the fishing geese and bullfrogs that are seen later in the ride just like Japan. You then pass by the baby possums and Brer Rabbit riding a handcar across a railroad trestle (which are the cases in California). You then see some critters, including the singing alligator seen in California and Japan, trying to hitch a ride as signs point the way to the Laughing Place.

Now you approach the great tree with Brer Bear's exposed rear sticking out as he comments on the only thing in there being bees. His rear is positioned exactly like in California. Brer Rabbit is seen laughing uncontrollably in a clump of bushes nearby. You enter the tree and then go down, then up, as always. Now you're in the beehive-infested caverns. Now the song changes "Everybody's Got a Laughing Place" (performed in English) and you pass by Brer Bear with the beehive encasing his nose. Brer Rabbit is laughing his head off nearby (this time on the other side of the river, instead of behind Brer Bear), but Brer Fox raising the beehive over him is missing.

Now you go down a very gentle spillway and go through the Laughing Place scene as usual. Here, a beaver plays a turtle like a drum, a stork plays a spider web like a harp and fountains burble and leap this way and that. Brer Frog is eating honey from a hive while Brer Turtle reclines on another fountain. Now you see Brer Rabbit with the hive full of honey over his head and Brer Fox standing behind him. You then go through the Burrow's Lament scene, which is seen only in California. Also only Sis Rabbit and the bunnies are seen (while in California, they are accompanied by Sis Possum and her babies). The rabbits are singing in French.

You then pass below the two vultures and climb the lift hill, where this has all the elements from the other Splash Mountains. As you ascend the hill, you pass by Brer Fox's lair on the right, where you hear the exchange between Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox about being the rabbit not wanting to be thrown in the Briar Patch (the dialogue is in French). As the peak of the hill, the view of the skyline is dominated by the Phantom Manor and Space Mountain. Then you go down the big waterfall and into the Briar Patch below, passing by a flash of light taking their picture. As with Japan, you are left drier than in the States. You then go briefly through the Rivers of the Far West and then immediately reenter the mountain.

You go through a long tunnel and pass by a waterfall as you make your way to the usual "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" finale. But here, after you go past the riverboat, you see Brer Rabbit and Mr. Bluebird reclining outside the Briar Patch first and THEN see Brer Fox and Brer Bear in their own sticky situation. Then you find yourself back at the load/unload area. A short trip down the tunnel and past the photo display area and you exit back out into Frontierland.

So, what did you think? Impressive, isn't it? :biggrin: :cool: Let's discuss!;)

[mrsix24]

umm i see no originality whatsoever. despite the fact that you basically mixed together all 3 splash mountains together into this which has no "paris" feel to it. i think we should add our own elements to the ride instead of copying all the others. i mean obviously we know the base of what the ride will be like. we just need smaller things that will seperate this one from the other splash mountains. i hope you didn't take this criticism personally its just i think it would be better to put new ideas into the ride instead of taking them from the other splash mountains.

[Big Disney Fan]

umm i see no originality whatsoever. despite the fact that you basically mixed together all 3 splash mountains together into this which has no "paris" feel to it. i think we should add our own elements to the ride instead of copying all the others. i mean obviously we know the base of what the ride will be like. we just need smaller things that will seperate this one from the other splash mountains. i hope you didn't take this criticism personally its just i think it would be better to put new ideas into the ride instead of taking them from the other splash mountains.

I take no offense at your criticisms of my idea. However, that was my point the whole time, to mix and match. Tell me, how would you separate my SM idea for Paris from the SMs found at the other parks? I didn't see anything really outrageously different between the other versions, save for better lighting and a hopping Brer Rabbit effect (when, in the case of WDW, it's working) and the music performance being different from DL (whereas in Florida and Japan the music is being performed country-western style, the CA music is little more than a playful, bouncy orchestra-style) and the CA has Brer Turtle accompanying Brer Rabbit in front of the Briar Patch and of course, DL has one scene the others don't: namely, the Burrow's Lament scene just before you ascend the lift leading to the ultimate drop.

Anyway, how would you separate the DLP version from the other versions?

[mrsix24]

Well you didn't mention this but perhaps change the actual mountain and give it a new DLP look. You could make the queue have a narration as told by Brer Frog echoing in the cave. Instead of just one shadow effect, you could make "critter homes" where the windows show numerous critters talking to one another (one home being brer frog's of course).

As for the actual ride, you could change the setting a little. Make the "laughin' place" to look something that can reminince BTMR since it'll be so close to the attraction. Make a cave full of gems stuck in the cave walls. Maybe have a broken mine car that brer frog sits in towards the final climb.

Make a thunder effect while you climb up the final hill as well. The lightning and the eerie music will make things much more tense for guests. Add the CA of making a shadow puppet for brer fox when brer rabbit is about to be put down the brer patch.

Another element you can add is when the guests are slowly being transported back into the loading area and you leave the brer rabbit blue bird scene, perhaps you should add a few little rabbits and the racoon playing the harmonaca waving goodbye to the guests as they embark off their journey.

These are just a few ideas you can use to make the SM different then the other ones.

[Big Disney Fan]

Those ideas are wonderful. I'll tell you what: I will redo my verbal tour at a later date and throw your ideas in there. I think the lightning should be in at least one other version of the ride, too.

[CostaFreak]

Just in case anyone forgot my final drop idea:



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/180428180_a5b8ac96fb.jpg?v=0



What if the drop was to look like that to give it some originality.

[Big Disney Fan]

Just in case anyone forgot my final drop idea:



What if the drop was to look like that to give it some originality.

That'd be a good idea, only how would that work with the Briar Patch? It would have to be shortened somewhat.

[Big Disney Fan]

Guess it's been a while.

Anyway, here is an updated version of the DLP's SM:

First of all, this incarnation of the popular attraction will take its cues from the other three Splash Mountains the world over. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Let's begin with the queue...

The entrance to the attraction is designed to resemble the mill structure. It is very similar to the structure that houses the first lift hill in the other versions of the attraction. After passing through the mill, the upper floor through which you pass is only the critter tunnels and many entrances to critters' homes, complete with doors, mailboxes and lighted windows, with shadows of the critters in them. It is laden with small waterfalls and lights. You pass by a shadow of Brer Frog, speaking (in French) about Brer Rabbit's exploits (he is in his own home). The narration echoes through the tunnel as you make your way through.

Eventually, you reach the double-sided logs. Since chilly weather is the norm in much of Europe, especially in wintertime, the safety considerations from Japan are used in France as well; the load/unload area, therefore, is once again indoors.

Once aboard the log boat, you depart from the load area and cruise through a cave entrance and pass below Brer Frog who sits on a tree branch above the river and gives the guests some parting words, as always. But in this case, his dialogue alternates between English and French. Passing below the branch, you mount the first lift hill which, as always, leads out of the mountain and around the Briar Patch. Just like in Japan, the logs go in the opposite direction. You then mount the second lift hill, which, again like in Japan, is a cave instead of a mill.

Leveling off from this climb, much of this portion of the ride is exactly like Florida's (with the critter dwellings, including Brer Rabbit's and Brer Fox's, and the medicine wagon), but in this case, it's indoors. At this point, "How Do You Do?" starts playing, as background music. The only part of this portion that is outdoors is the swing-around providing a great view of the park. Like in Japan, you reenter the mountain before you descend the first waterfall, which has no name (unlike the States, where it's called "Slip'n Falls").

This lands you right in the first scene: Brer Rabbit and Brer Turtle standing outside the Briar Patch, ready to leave for parts unknown, with Brer Fox and Brer Bear looking at them from a distance. "How Do You Do?" is played in French. Then you pass by the fishing geese and bullfrogs that are seen later in the ride just like in Japan. You also see Brer Frog reclining on the alligator while fishing. You then pass by Brer Bear in the rabbit trap while Brer Fox yells at him (in French) and Brer Rabbit laughs at them both.

You then pass by the baby possums and Brer Rabbit riding a handcar across a railroad trestle (which are the cases in California). You then see some critters, including the singing alligator seen in California and Japan, trying to hitch a ride as signs point the way to the Laughing Place.

Now you approach the great tree with Brer Bear's exposed rear sticking out as he comments on the only thing in there being bees. His rear is positioned exactly like in California. Brer Rabbit is seen laughing uncontrollably in a clump of bushes nearby. You enter the tree and then go down, then up, as always. Now you're in the beehive-infested caverns, which now is laden with shining jewels, as well as tunnels, roots and beehives. Now the song changes "Everybody's Got a Laughing Place" (performed in English) and you pass by Brer Bear with the beehive encasing his nose. Brer Rabbit is laughing his head off nearby (this time on the other side of the river, instead of behind Brer Bear), but Brer Fox raising the beehive over him is missing.

Now you go down a very gentle spillway and go through the Laughing Place scene as usual, which in addition to small geysers and fountains, are laden with mining tracks and old carts. Here, a beaver plays a turtle like a drum, a stork plays a spider web like a harp and fountains burble and leap this way and that. Brer Frog is eating honey from a hive while Brer Turtle reclines on another fountain. Now you see Brer Rabbit with the hive full of honey over his head and Brer Fox standing behind him. You then go through the Burrow's Lament scene, which is seen only in California. Also only Sis Rabbit and the bunnies are seen (while in California, they are accompanied by Sis Possum and her babies). The rabbits are singing in French.

You then pass below the two vultures and climb the lift hill, where this has all the elements from the other Splash Mountains. As you ascend the hill, there is the occasional lightning flash and thunder crash to intensify the drama of the scene. As you ascend the hill, you pass by Brer Fox's lair on the right, where you hear the exchange between Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox about being the rabbit not wanting to be thrown in the Briar Patch (the dialogue is in French). Brer Fox's shadow is casted on the wall of his cave. As the peak of the hill, the view of the skyline is dominated by the Phantom Manor and Space Mountain. Then you go down the big waterfall and into the Briar Patch below, passing by a flash of light taking their picture. As with Japan, you are left drier than in the States. You then go briefly through the Rivers of the Far West and then immediately reenter the mountain.

You go through a long tunnel and pass by a waterfall as you make your way to the usual "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" finale. But here, after you go past the riverboat, you see Brer Rabbit and Mr. Bluebird reclining outside the Briar Patch first and THEN see Brer Fox and Brer Bear in their own sticky situation. Then you pass by some rabbits and raccoons waving good-bye to you. Then you find yourself back at the load/unload area. A short trip down the tunnel and past the photo display area and you exit back out into Frontierland.

So, what did you think now? One question, though: should the ride be in Frontierland or should there be a new Critter Country for it (complete with the return of the canoes).

[DisneyParksFan]

^^ Everything above sounds good, but not for Frontierland at DLP. For the ride to work in their version of Frontierland, I think the entire ride would have to be re-themed with a new look and concept. It would probably make more sense for the ride to take on a Western feel instead of the bayou theme. Do what they did with The Haunted Mansion, except with Splash Mountain.
I know you mentioned about adding a new land for the ride, but do you know where it could go?

~DisneyParksFan

[Big Disney Fan]

^^ Everything above sounds good, but not for Frontierland at DLP. For the ride to work in their version of Frontierland, I think the entire ride would have to be re-themed with a new look and concept. It would probably make more sense for the ride to take on a Western feel instead of the bayou theme. Do what they did with The Haunted Mansion, except with Splash Mountain.
I know you mentioned about adding a new land for the ride, but do you know where it could go?

~DisneyParksFan

Why couldn't it work in Frontierland? Splash Mountain worked in Frontierland before (in WDW). So why couldn't it work again?

If worse comes to worse, we can always create a brand-new land (namely, Critter Country) for DLP to put this in there. I mean, they did that in Tokyo for their SM, did they not? I mean, we might have to adjust Frontierland a bit, but if it worked in Tokyo, it can work in Paris.