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Recently the Disneyland version of the Haunted Mansion recieved major upgrades to Madame Leota and the bride the Haunted Mansion is one of the most poorly maintained attractions in WDW. Last time I heard the Master Gracey is not even working. WDW desperately needs to have a refurb for the Mansion and bring Floating Leota and Constance to WDW.
GreenLantern13
08-28-2006, 05:34 PM
Master Gracey works. But the attraction is in shabbles. The audio is horrible and they can't even loop it right. They bought expensive new projectors for the singing busts but its refresh rate is messed up so that if you look at it then look away you can see the red/green/blue bars on it instead. And the lighting doesn't seem so great at all in it.
Master Gracey works. But the attraction is in shabbles. The audio is horrible and they can't even loop it right. They bought expensive new projectors for the singing busts but its refresh rate is messed up so that if you look at it then look away you can see the red/green/blue bars on it instead. And the lighting doesn't seem so great at all in it.
Interesting. Last report i heard was that the effect was not working. Master Gracey was stuck on one image.:wink: Not to mention they have to get rid of Smurfette.(AKA the Bride)
Simply Phenomenal
08-29-2006, 11:14 AM
Hmm thats not good at all.. [removed]
Admin Edit: Things like "too bad for WDW, Disneyland Rules!" could be considered trolling or flaming in this circumstance.
PeoplemoverMatt
08-29-2006, 11:38 AM
Mansion is not the only attraction that could use a refurb. Jay Rasulo ran things in similar, though nowhere near as obviously delterious, ways as Paul Pressler ran Disneyland. Many attractions have been allowed to fall into disrepair. They also did not have a major Year of the Refurb that Disneyland saw in 2004.
-- PMM :cool:
jagfkb
08-31-2006, 01:48 PM
you know, WDW's mansion could use a refurb, to touch up on things. perhaps maybe a couple new effects?
you know, WDW's mansion could use a refurb, to touch up on things. perhaps maybe a couple new effects?
It could use a Massive refurb. things down there are worse than ever now.:icon_cry:
Lets hope New head Meg Crofton understands this.
Harrison Hightower III
09-03-2006, 05:35 PM
Gosh does anyone got a pic of the old MK bride I can't remember what it looks like!!!
HHIII
Gosh does anyone got a pic of the old MK bride I can't remember what it looks like!!!
HHIII
Theres a pic over at doombuggies.com.
vmkdude
10-11-2006, 07:39 PM
i heard they are going to do a refub next year and but a new bride like the one in disneyland and make madame leota float and there is still a bride at walt disney world and master gracie works again
i heard they are going to do a refub next year and but a new bride like the one in disneyland and make madame leota float and there is still a bride at walt disney world and master gracie works again
That is Great news. Constance might be there for my next WDW trip.:biggrin: Whats your source?
vmkdude
10-16-2006, 01:44 PM
my source is a friend that works at disney and me going to disney world all the time
my source is a friend that works at disney and me going to disney world all the time
Well I guess some dreams do come true during the Year of a Million Dreams.
LoehnWolf
10-25-2006, 05:25 PM
Its funny, I recently sent an email to the WDW Company via the "Contact Us" link on their website containing alot of these same grievances about the fact that WDW is not only falling apart but falling into decay. I said that alot of people are really starting to notice the lack of functionality of the attractions and the overall appearance of things. Someone from an Executive office actually called my wife in response and asked her about my email and assured her that improvements to alot of attractions were right around the corner. Do I take this as fact? No. But for them to follow up like that at least made me feel like they cared and were istening to what we all have to say out here in Cyberspace.
d_fallen_1
10-26-2006, 09:34 AM
I can't stress enough on how much the Haunted Mansion needs to improve.
Lighting
Sound
Effects
The list go on and on.
People say that the Haunted Mansion in Tokyo is the same but they are sadly mistaken. Sure, the actual attraction is the same but if you take a good look at these videos you can clearly see the improvements in the Tokyo version. (Note: this is indeed in japanese)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtzwkOS0SFI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybQPv6B6uqo
From these videos you can see: better lighting, better sounds, better effects, new effects (the book on the desk in the library and the morphing portrait in the hallway of doors), not to mention....YOU CAN SEE.
Pretty much if you expect an improvement you should go to the HM in Tokyo plus the storyline in Disneyland.
PeoplemoverMatt
10-26-2006, 12:00 PM
That would be most likely because the Haunted Mansion in Tokyo is a much younger clone of Magic Kingdom's. So yes, when we call it the two the same thing, we are referring to the fact that they are clones, even though Tokyo's is younger (and better maintained) than Magic Kingdom's.
Remember Walt Disney World never saw the tremendous rehabs that Disneyland saw in 2004 when Matt Ouimet swept through. No, WDW is largely still stuck in a similar condition to Disneyland's 2+ years ago. The one in control of that is/was Jay Rasulo. He's in control of all Disney parks worldwide now having created a new position for himself, and that's why I'm afraid those days might return to Disneyland. If Rasulo imports those same maintenance budget philosophies, he's Ed Grier's boss so even if Grier objected to it, Rasulo could possibly overrule him. I don't see that as a very likely senario, but, it could happen. I hope it doesn't.
-- The Chief :cool:
That would be most likely because the Haunted Mansion in Tokyo is a much younger clone of Magic Kingdom's. So yes, when we call it the two the same thing, we are referring to the fact that they are clones, even though Tokyo's is younger (and better maintained) than Magic Kingdom's.
Remember Walt Disney World never saw the tremendous rehabs that Disneyland saw in 2004 when Matt Ouimet swept through. No, WDW is largely still stuck in a similar condition to Disneyland's 2+ years ago. The one in control of that is/was Jay Rasulo. He's in control of all Disney parks worldwide now having created a new position for himself, and that's why I'm afraid those days might return to Disneyland. If Rasulo imports those same maintenance budget philosophies, he's Ed Grier's boss so even if Grier objected to it, Rasulo could possibly overrule him. I don't see that as a very likely senario, but, it could happen. I hope it doesn't.
-- The Chief :cool:
I dont think DLR will sink to that level again. And it looks like WDW is about to get what you guys had in 2004 with the year of the rehab. Good thing I am not going back to WDW until 2008 and hopefully everything will be done by then. Also from what i have heard Our Mansion should be getting Constance by the end of November.:p
LoehnWolf
11-11-2006, 11:40 PM
Its funny, when I was at WDW for Halloween at the MK there were maybe a good half dozen or so people walking around in the queue for the HM with clipboards and fancy suits (which looked WAY outta place on Halloween) talking about the canopy over the queue and how they need to do something with it and trying to get a timeframe to begin making changes. So I am really hoping that things are finally heading into the right direction for those refurbs and rehabs the HM and the MK as a whole needs.
snowwhite-4ever
11-23-2006, 01:27 PM
Yes they need to do something :) I love it that way it is, but it looks so old, and without using any kind of new tecnology. And they need to make the boarding area, more than just a black wall.
Here is some interesting information. The so-called Brides ring has been removed from the ground around the Mansion.
Requiembell
02-07-2007, 11:19 PM
Gosh does anyone got a pic of the old MK bride I can't remember what it looks like!!!
HHIII
In response to your request here's a picture of the ailing "smurfette" that i took on my last visit to WDW.
http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=661&stc=1&d=1170918862
Here is some interesting information. The so-called Brides ring has been removed from the ground around the Mansion.
The brides ring has returned.
Requiembell
02-08-2007, 03:25 PM
Yes they need to do something :) I love it that way it is, but it looks so old, and without using any kind of new tecnology. And they need to make the boarding area, more than just a black wall.
Even if they put something as plain as blue lighting with a projected fog effect like in the DL version. That would suffice much better than a black wall in the load area.
tams77
02-09-2007, 02:04 PM
Hmmm... a good cleaning. Some updated effects. Perhaps make use of some of that new fangled techno-whozits and maybe do something with dead areas like the top of the staircase? Nah, let?s just leave it alone cause people will still pay to see thirty year old rides with out dated effects! Way to go management! Walt would be proud!
LoehnWolf
02-11-2007, 12:50 AM
Do I detect a slight hint of sarcasm there?? Truth is they dont want to bring it down because it IS so popular but it didnt seem to stop them from shutting down Pirates to add the movie tie-in stuff for how many months?? I say they need to just bite the bullet here and start bringing her into the new millenium with some new effects and some updating of the old ones. I dont know about anyone else but the HM is the one attraction I always have to hit when I am there. Its a shame that its becoming more of a letdown each trip. I wonder if their refurb plans hinged around the movie being a success like they did with Pirates?
. I wonder if their refurb plans hinged around the movie being a success like they did with Pirates?
The interesting thing is that the new Bride at Disneyland was added to make it incompattable with the HM movie. Pirates on the other hand made changes to make it closer to the movie. The only thing from the HM movie in the Disneyland Mansion is the chair next to the portrait of Reginald and Constance, is Master Graceys chair from the movie.;)
That's because the only thing worth salvaging from that movie is the scenery.
Also in the Pirates of the Caribbean 'upgrade', the chair the Sparrow AA sits on in the treasure room is one of the dining chairs from The Haunted Mansion movie.
That's because the only thing worth salvaging from that movie is the scenery.
Also in the Pirates of the Caribbean 'upgrade', the chair the Sparrow AA sits on in the treasure room is one of the dining chairs from The Haunted Mansion movie.
Another Pirates-Mansion connection. I wonder if Reginald has a Connection to Jean Laffite.;)
vmkdude
07-05-2007, 02:03 PM
i dont know if you knew this but the bride in WDW haunted mansion has a portrat next to her its a picture of her when she was a kid but its was to dark and i never got to see it
DisneyFanatic13
07-06-2007, 12:20 AM
^No. Do you think doombuggies.com has it?
tomserwin
07-06-2007, 12:49 AM
Another Pirates-Mansion connection. I wonder if Reginald has a Connection to Jean Laffite.;)
I think its cool that Pirates and HM (in their early concepts) were to be connected together by an underground passage that bridged the two attractions. Of course, that was when Pirates was supposed to be a walk-through attraction.
modano1509
07-21-2007, 10:48 PM
Does anybody know why the HM at WDW is shut down at the moment? The news on the site says its down until Sept. 12...
Any ideas? Are we finally getting that major cleaning and ugrade?!
LoehnWolf
07-22-2007, 11:04 AM
Yes modano they are updating the effects and some of the tech. No one knows for sure what exactly is being done but there is some hope that the DLR bride and other effects will be brought to the WDW Mansion
modano1509
07-22-2007, 11:21 AM
Sounds like a great thing to do. We all know it needs it badly. I really hope that we may even get some better technology than DLR. I really would love to see the bride, as I've actually never been to DLR.
I'm hoping to go to WDW sometime by the end of this year. And If I get the chance, then I'll be sure to take a video of it and show all of the improvements.
LoehnWolf
07-27-2007, 12:36 AM
That would be greatly appreciated, especially since I was hoping to go the middle of December and had to back out. I was really hoping to catch the CLP in Epcot this year..oh well there is always next year. I agree that it would be great if things got freshened up, but im not picky as long as the effects and sounds are working Im not likely to complain but that new attic bride would be awesome
vmkdude
08-25-2007, 10:55 AM
Here is some WDW HM concept art
http://i7.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b0/01/9e7f_1_sbl.JPGhttp://i3.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/b0/01/96bd_1_sbl.JPG
jorgetheviking
08-25-2007, 11:36 AM
Thanks for the concept art I cant wait to ride it next year! Are those pins?
vmkdude
08-25-2007, 12:04 PM
yup they are cast pins and here are 2 more
http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/b0/01/9a74_1_sbl.JPGhttp://i18.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/b0/01/a296_1_sbl.JPG
DisneyFanatic13
08-25-2007, 01:41 PM
^Where did you get them?
Here is some WDW HM concept art
http://i7.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b0/01/9e7f_1_sbl.JPG[IMG.
What is interesting here is that the 4th portrait in the hallway is none other than April/December who was removed from the Disneyland hallway 2 years ago to make room for Master Gracey.
Big Disney Fan
08-26-2007, 09:55 AM
Are they actually going to use those portraits in the ride? I heard that the Medusa picture already existed there. But in this case, the picture doesn't change. Instead, her eyes are designed in such a way that they seem to follow you in true haunted house style. And there are a lot of other pictures that do this, too.
Are they actually going to use those portraits in the ride? I heard that the Medusa picture already existed there. But in this case, the picture doesn't change. Instead, her eyes are designed in such a way that they seem to follow you in true haunted house style. And there are a lot of other pictures that do this, too.
That was the way it was but they are replacing it with the effect from Disneyland where the pictures change with the lightning.
DoomBuggies.com has a bit on the Haunted Mansion updates:
Imagineering on the WDW Haunted Mansion updates (http://doombuggies.blogspot.com/2007/08/imagineering-on-wdw-haunted-mansion.html)
DisntantCreations.com reports some new sounds in the stretching gallery being tested on the guests:
Imagineers testing WDW?s Haunted Mansion with guests! (http://www.distantcreations.com/blog/2007/08/24/imagineers-testing-wdws-haunted-mansion-with-guests/)
DisneyFanatic13
08-27-2007, 05:28 PM
Wow. Major inprovment. And I have a question. The picture in the one from Dommbuggies with a person working on a new scene, what does that have to do with the HM?
Wow. Major inprovment. And I have a question. The picture in the one from Dommbuggies with a person working on a new scene, what does that have to do with the HM?
Thats the new staircase scene.;)
kmb728
08-28-2007, 08:52 AM
Thats the new staircase scene.;)
That scene looks like itll be sweet!Applause, Applause! ;)
DisneyFanatic13
08-28-2007, 02:37 PM
Oh. That's going to be alot of stairs in the HM than a regular mansion!
Big Disney Fan
08-28-2007, 07:34 PM
Oh. That's going to be alot of stairs in the HM than a regular mansion!
In an article by Al Lutz (http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al082807d.htm), these improvements are planned to come to Disneyland's version of the Haunted Mansion as well!
In an article by Al Lutz (http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al082807d.htm), these improvements are planned to come to Disneyland's version of the Haunted Mansion as well!
I wonder how they are going to put the staircase scene in the :disneyland: Mansion. The only area I can think of is the Loading area and that would cause problems with HMH.
Big Disney Fan
08-30-2007, 04:35 PM
I wonder how they are going to put the staircase scene in the :disneyland: Mansion. The only area I can think of is the Loading area and that would cause problems with HMH.
Well, I wonder how they're going to add those same scenes in to WDW's ride in the first place. Especially the changing portrait effects.
Well, I wonder how they're going to add those same scenes in to WDW's ride in the first place. Especially the changing portrait effects.
The Changing portraits will be where the Sinister 11 used to be.
Big Disney Fan
08-30-2007, 05:17 PM
The Changing portraits will be where the Sinister 11 used to be.
Are you referring to the portrait hall with the portraits' eyes watching you? How are they supposed to replace an entire portrait wall with windows? Are they going to retain the sea captain portrait? They should have at least one seeing portrait intact.
Are you referring to the portrait hall with the portraits' eyes watching you? How are they supposed to replace an entire portrait wall with windows? Are they going to retain the sea captain portrait? They should have at least one seeing portrait intact.
Yes they are tearing out the Portraits with the eyes that follow you and putting in the :disneyland: Hallway of changing Portraits. As for the chance of any of the old portraits being put somewhere else in the Mansion I have no idea.:confused:
Big Disney Fan
08-30-2007, 10:38 PM
Well, what about the stairs; how are they going to do the stairs? More importantly, where will the stairs go? That might help explain where they'll put it in the DL version.
kmb728
08-31-2007, 07:48 AM
im sure there keeping the changing eye portraites in the manision because in DL they have the hall of changing pictures then right after that there are two heads that the eyes follow you
Big Disney Fan
08-31-2007, 08:32 AM
^The stairs are going where the big spider webs with the giant spiders were. In DL, there isn't anything like that to put stairs there.
-SPΛCE
Well, what about the main load area? In DL, the Doom Buggies could be passing by the bizarre stairs right in the beginning. There's nothing really there right now anyway. AND it's flanked on the left or right by stairs, the left ones the Doom Buggies go up and the right they descend.
PeoplemoverMatt
08-31-2007, 01:04 PM
It would be difficult to install an effect like the stairs only to have to remove it for HMH and put it back after HMH.
-- PMM :cool:
DisneyFanatic13
08-31-2007, 08:07 PM
But what happens if they used mirrors to make it like there's a million stairs(exageration)?
vmkdude
09-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Tomorrow The Mansion Reopens Who isn't Excited!!
Davy Jones fan
09-11-2007, 03:44 PM
I know you are looking for people who are not excited, but I sure am excited! It's about time for the Haunted Mansion to open it's doors to the public again after 3 LONG months! Personally, I can't wait to see what's in there! Applause, Applause! Applause, Applause!
DisneyFanatic13
09-11-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm really excited. Too bad I'm not going.
ryguy222
09-11-2007, 07:02 PM
I just found another reason why i like DLR better, since there is less rides there are less breakdowns to deal with. Yes the Maintenance staff is probably bigger but its still only two or three teams to deal with all those issues, at DLR the Only problems right now are on IJA and one Eye of Mara and a few effects, but i think there fixed by now as I saw them Spring Break.
DisneyFanatic13
09-11-2007, 09:08 PM
HM fans, please read this! This is important!
http://www.visionsfantastic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17465
And it's true.
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