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Originally Posted by dougeebear
I thought of that myself, but since I stay off resort on Harbor yet visit DTD to shop and eat, I'd have to cross the newly gated, turnstiled Esplanade to go to and from my hotel. And all of the off-resort bus transports let guests off there, so they'd all have to have some way of getting from DTD back to the busses. Sure, they could use a re-entry pass, but suppose someone didn't go to the park that day? Should they be forced to use a day's admission simply to cross the Esplanade to get to DTD?
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The only way I can think of to solve that is close off Harbor Blvd. entries to theme park guests only. Any & all DtD only shuttles would then be required to drop their guests off at Downtown Disney's drop-off point in front of the Rainforest Cafe & ESPN Zone. DtD guests being dropped off in front of DtD sounds like a pretty good idea to me. The current Transportation Hub can then be reduced in size creating room for additional ticket booths & turnstiles that might be needed on that side.
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Originally Posted by dougeebear
I just don't see this happening. The idea behind a second gate is to increase revenue. "Joining" the two parks won't increase revenue, it will only artificially inflate DCA's attendance numbers. It will actually hurt attendance numbers at the resort overall, since a parkhopping guest is currently counted twice and under a joined system would only be counted once.
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It will increase revenue in that everyone will then be park hoppers & pay the park-hopper price. That's at least $20 more per person. Whether they still distinguish between the parks (which could easily be done) or not, it'll just mean only 1 ticket gets you in anywhere. Buy the ticket into the Theme Parks, where you go is up to you, but whereever you're going, you need this one ticket.
And you're right, each guest counted twice will then be only counted once. That means the current numbers are cloudy at best. What joining will do is erase the glaring embarassment that is DCA's attendance numbers & group them into a general theme park attendance number. Sure 50K Disneyland & 15K DCA might end up being 55,000 total, but then they can tout there's 55,000/day that can go anywhere. Individual attraction attendance numbers can then be used. But I guarantee you, if all those 1-day 1-park'ers to Disneyland were allowed to ride Screamin' & Soarin' on their ticket, they would. It would be a great thing for DCA.
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Originally Posted by dougeebear
Lasseter would do better to improve DCA and get attendance numbers up through those improvements.
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That is a long term problem that only has a long term solution. DCA's life is a close mirror to the early days of Disney MGM Studios. That park still experiences attendance problems & would have much more severe problems if it was where DCA is today. MGM has the luxury of being 1 of 4 theme parks in a huge place where people feel they have to see EVERYTHING no matter what it is. In California, people don't think that way. People don't come here to blow every dollar they have in a blind fantastical vacation like in FL. DCA can have all the improvements it can stand, but that is a very costly & very long term solution. I like it as a long term solution, but in the short term, opening it up to everyone who buys Disneyland attendance no matter what would be a very good thing for it.
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